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All signs point to Kerr

Steve Kerr to the Knicks as head coach looks more likely as the main competition — the Golden State Warriors — are pessimistic about their chances at landing Kerr as head coach, according to ESPN’s Marc Stein and Ian Begley.

The Warriors, according to ESPN, feel that Kerr and the Knicks are too deep in talks right now.  Kerr remains a hot commodity with the Utah Jazz also interested in the current broadcaster. Kerr remains an analyst for TNT during the NBA playoffs and will call the Thunder-Clippers Game 5 Tuesday in Oklahoma City.




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darealeric
darealeric

Haha, what a funny picture of Kerr...

Daniel Nguyen
Daniel Nguyen

I wonder if magic johnson wants to coach, he does own magic johnson theatre in harlem

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

Kerr's salary doesn't matter. He is also a former GM so that skill and experience will be helpful in rebuilding the team. He also is leaving a cushy gig to take this job. He wants the years bc he wants to be here the whole time Phil is here to help build this team up. People need to slow down. I'd rather overpay for Kerr if he has Phil's endorsement than pay less for an "experienced" coach who is a retread.

Seth Plaut
Seth Plaut

We were all begging for Phil to take over the team for his guidance. Now that has occurred, we are going to dispute his choice for coach? I am willing to blindly trust Phil on every decision, because he deserves it.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

If the Nets lost last night, the discussion here would be different.

goldbuddha
goldbuddha

People are choosing to give an F***about what Kerr gets paid. He's being paid to be a part of the brain trust that makes Phil comfortable, Kerr's GM experience will be an asset to Phil, and Mills. He's getting paid to be a part of the overhaul of this organization. He's also getting paid to leave his present cushy job as a tv analyst. And most importantly he is getting paid to be Phil's coaching conduit who is comfortable and amenable to Phil's input in coaching. Which then holds Value for Melo and other premium free agents the organization will try to lure in the future. Kerr is the best fit to maximize the investment in Phil, and the plans for the future. His salary doesn't count against a cap so who cares. Furthermore what is the rush if everyone involved in the decision making already knows he'll be the guy. I guarantee these plans have already been ironed out between those that matter. And Kerr has already started thinking about his new duties as coach. Besides a lot will happen once the season is done that will determine which moves can be made this off season. Relax everyone.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Love to see all the concern for Dolan's dollars. Look at it this way, Kerr is asking to get paid over four years what Bargnani is getting for two, and we don't have to trade away three draft picks.

There is no rush to sign Kerr. We have no draft picks and the roster is set for next season. There really isn't much to do until July.


lpeezy31
lpeezy31

Knicks brass is beyond stupid. Love the team ( players, history), fduck whoever think they runnin' the show

rgm891
rgm891

I understand the frustration with the amount of money kerr is so called asking for. Lets see the final number before we make any sort of judgement.  We are making it sound like the guy is going to fail already without even been given a shot.  We havent even touched the roster yet.  Give Phil a chance to change the culture of the organization his way.  That's what we paid him the big bucks for.  

lobcity1
lobcity1

You want a retirement check?

Come to NYK!

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

I don't think any of us care about Dolan's bill at all - some of us are just 

a) taken aback by the audacity of a 1st-time coach asking for a salary commensurate with that of Gregg Popovich, and 

b) wondering what other coaches could be lured for the same (or even lower) salary 

(cue "But there is only one option for Phil Jackson and his triangle offense - Steve Kerr!!!" comments)

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Steve Kerr does not count against the Knicks salary cap! If Dolan pays him 50 million I don't give a FUGG!

brookdon
brookdon

He has way too much other things going for him to coach. Not to mention,he's likely going to put in a bid to buy the Clippers.

brookdon
brookdon

Knicks fans will complain regardless of the situation lol

jeandd323
jeandd323

@Knicks_Fanatic  what about free agents siging? Possible trades for draft picks? trying to lure players from europe? hiring of assistants, creating play book etc ...

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Knicks_Fanatic  

" Kerr is asking to get paid over four years what Bargnani is getting for two, and we don't have to trade away three draft picks." 

Why compare coaching salary to player salary? 


"We have no draft picks and the roster is set for next season. There really isn't much to do until July."

“He told us that there will be changes in the locker room and that not all of us will be back.” - Knicks player relating Phil's locker room comments


Of course there is work to do for any GM prior to the July moratorium in evaluating potential trades.  Yes - the draft pick cupboard is bare and assets are limited, but there is no reason why management shouldn't start exploring options should a reasonable deal materialize.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Knicks_Fanatics

I'm not concern over Dolan's dollars at all. To give an unproven coach that much money shows that this the ownership of this team hasn't changed and doesn't intend to. Where's the integrity and pride? This organization continues to operate with no structure and poor management. Thats my concern.

jeandd323
jeandd323

@rgm891  I am with you on that. We suffer through Isaiah,Magoo, Pringles, Woody, Wilkins, Larry Brown. We have ziltsch during those time. 


We finally hire someone who has a plan :

  • Do not go to a rebuild mode - try to build a contender for next year
  • Resign our superstar to top  dollars but do not break the bank to do so
  • Institute system basketball and hire a coach on his mold to execute on the plan.
  • Opportunistic signing of additional pieces to make the team a contender for next year.
  • Attract former players who know how to play in his system.


This  is a lot more  than I am accustomed to see from Knicks Management. That is why I am giving the man a chance to execute before I start running my mouth



BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@rgm891  

This is true - this is all based on a reporter's interpretation of the word "similar" in reference to Mike D'Antoni's deal.  We will see how it all shakes out.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@BigChiefTriangle  

We have to pay more due to the Dolan factor. His history of interference and poor management raise the ante for anyone working under him. Dolan's treatment of coaches is borderline abusive. 

San Antonio is an ideal franchise with a stable organization and a history of success. You couldn't pay Pop enough to come work for Dolan. 

lobcity1
lobcity1

Knicks are a reckless organization with no structure and integrity. This will give the world another reason to laugh at Dolan and his Knicks.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@kingofny  

And those guys have actually played basketball before...lol


But consider what salary Lebron/Carmelo/etc. would have received their rookie seasons if rookie contracts were not limited - it would've been a lot.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@kingofny. Rookies don't make max contracts so it's not even worth the conversation

solar_lion
solar_lion

@pezhao The thing about it is context. The salary cap structure of the NBA and team sports in the US - outside of baseball- creates an atmosphere where outside of management, players in team sports may have to make sacrifices of some degree (not unreasonable sacrifices) to surround the teams they elect to go to or stay with to sign other players to bolster that teams chances at winning. Moreover Melo even if he's signed at 18 million per year over 5 years or tops 20 million per year over five years will still make way more than  Kerr. So you really are just make arguments ad nauseaum to foster an idea that other people in the organizations are making sacrifices or taking risk. P jax is taking a risk with his reputation to be a GM in NY. Kerr will have to sell off ownership interest in the Suns and give up a kushy gig doing commentary for TNT. And both Kerr and Jax like Melo will be scrutinized for the end result. Your straw man argument is very much devoid of context. It is more in line with the knee jerk reactionary points of view that are typical of the manic/bi polar Knicks fan. So just slow your roll.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@pezhao  If Melo isn't smart enough to realize that what Kerr makes has ZERO impact on the team or the salary cap, then he isn't smart enough to play in the Triangle.  He has made over 100 million in his career not including endorsements.  Yes, Kerr is a first time coach but Phil wants him and he is sought after by other teams.  Also, coaches for the Knicks get paid more than coaches for other NBA teams.  That's just how it works.  Also, these are not final numbers but simply what is rumored.  HE wants to years guaranteed bc he would be moving to the other side of the country.


If an NBA player actually said to Phil "Kerr's gettin' paid so I'm not taking any discount" then that player is an idiot who doesn't understand the salary cap.  Again, what Kerr makes has no impact on the team's salary cap situation.  They are completely unrelated and any player who doesn't realize that is not smart enough to play in the Triangle!



VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@jeandd323 @Knicks_Fanatic  There's plenty of things to do with an early coach. Pre draft camps to scout. Put together a SL team. Projections of undrafted rookies you can bring in for workouts.

Let's also remember that Jax is still putting together an entire coaching staff and is still looking to put together a strong core within the front office. There's plenty to do with and without a hired coach.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@lobcity wasting foolishly is trading two 2nd rounders and a first rounder for Andrea Bargnani, trading picks away in the Isaiah Thoms years that would have been Joachim Noah or LeMarcus Aldridge to take a GAMBLE on Eddy Curry. Overpaying for Jerom "Biggie Snax" James for a blip spike in production in the playoffs of his contract year. Or overpaying to exit Jared Jefferies- a 1st rounder and Jordan Hill- so the organization could take a wild swing in 2010 to only land Amar'e "my knees are made of Glass" Stoudemire. Kerr's salary does not count against the cap and w/ Jax's tuttelage and input he'll have to opportunity to revive the triangle in NY w/ management that will invest in his and the teams development towards contention.

goldbuddha
goldbuddha

@lobcity  that's the Knicks PTSD talking. This isn't your typical rookie coach. He's been vouched for by two of the greatest coaches in our time, and he'll be a conduit for one of those coaches. He's Phil's avatar who also brings a lot of knowledge of his own to the table, plus a little GM experience that Mills can utilize.

rgm891
rgm891

@BigChiefTriangle @rgm891  For sure man.  I would believe he will receive a similiar contract to Brad Stevens around 22 million.  That seems like a reasonable price.

1harris1
1harris1

"You couldn't pay Pop enough to come work for Dolan".

Well....., I don't know about that one. Seems Phil had no problem taking JD's money. Everybody has a price.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Knicks_Fanatic

I disagree. I think its bc everyone knows Dolan is silly enough to overpay and throw out cash and SK is trying to join the party and get his as well.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@lobcity  

For the Knicks' sake, I obviously hope this guy is legit, but the media will be ready to put a fat target on Kerr's back....we'll see...

solar_lion
solar_lion

@Sandro Guedes @pezhaoHe has no point. It's called a red herring. A straw man argument. Its just picking at the skin to say there's a scab. The sort of dribble the trollish Main Stream Media run with to creat stories where there are none.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@pezhao You're either dense or an ideologue. Both are incapable of thinking outside of context. For different reasons that is. Outside of a capped structure neither JAx or Kerr have to make sacrifices in terms of what price they ask for their services. In a capped structure they would. Melo is in such a structure. He will get paid handsomely but he'll be asked to sacrifice to some degree to the extent needed to bolster and retool the roster around him.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@pezhao TO the extent that the former are to be dispensed with because their production for requested price tag will not be worth it while the latters will to the extent that a sacrifice of some degree is required to improve on the product even with the latters production signed up has plenty to do with my rebuttal.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@pezhao Players like STAT and Chandler won't be around at such a price tag next time out. Their price for production and consistency insures against it. They will not need to make sacrifices, they will be sacrificed  and jettisoned from the organization so the Knicks can pursue players whose production and price tag are more efficient and effective towards the big picture. Contending for Titles!

solar_lion
solar_lion

@Blaze NYK @kingofny@pezhaoExcatly. That is excatly how Phil approaches such situations He is a big picture, long term thinker. Not a short term coach or I suppose GM. Great points

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@kingofny @Blaze NYK @pezhao  But you are thinking of it from a player's perspective.  Kerr probably doesn't make 4 or 5 million a year as an announcer, but its also a job that doesn't require him to uproot his life on the west coast OR a job that he can get fired from at any moment (unless he said something really stupid on air or something like that).  Also, bc Phil wants Kerr, he is now wanted by other teams…Jazz, Warriors, etc….so that drives up the cost.  Supply and demand and all that stuff.  


NYC coaches for any team always get paid more.  Dantoni got paid a lot. So did Larry Brown.  Isiah, etc.  Its the Knicks.  The head coach gets paid.  Its always been that way.  You also have to realize that if Kerr is getting paid next to nothing, then it actually makes it EASIER for Dolan to fire him the first minute something goes wrong.  So its an investment in Phil's vision, in Kerr, in the plan and its a way for Phil and Kerr to get assurances from Dolan that he's not gonna b*tch out the second the Knicks go on a 3 game losing streak.  Read 11 Rings and Phil talks a lot about how he doesn't coach for the regular season but the playoffs and he lets his teams figure out their problems in the season.  If this is Kerr's philosophy as well then we might have some growing pains while the team learns a new system, etc.  Knowing Dolan's history of rash decisions, he could grow impatient and want to fire Kerr.  But if he's got him guaranteed for 20 million and 4 or 5 years, he won't be so quick to do that.  You're asking him to sacrifice.  Why?  If he can get that much, why shouldn't he?  He's got more rings than Dolan!

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@1harris1  

Could be, but Phil was eager to get back in the game and was spurned by the Lakers. Pop is very happy in SA and not looking to make a change.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@BigChiefTriangle @Knicks_Fanatic 

We have to clear the roster and change the culture of the locker room. Kerr needs to do that before coaching will even be a factor. As long as we have low IQ players, coaching is a moot point.

Look at what Woody did with Kidd, Sheed, and Kurt in the locker room and look at what he did with Bargnani and Chris Smith. It's a change of mindset and develop of a team approach to the game.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@kingofny. So let's get back to that question in 3-4 yrs when their rookie contract is up...? That's my point too, they haven't proven anything! Go Knicks