Felton and Stoudemire dominate vs. Heat

Harris Decker

felton475If I were into writing in all capitals, I’d write the following sentence like this: WHERE HAS THIS PLAY BEEN?

As it stands, I’m not really an all-caps kind of guy. That question needs to be highlighted and pointed to over and over, though. Thursday night, against the Miami Heat, Raymond Felton showed up in a huge way, breaking down the defense and dishing to the open man 14 times. He was the player of the game, as he did what most point guards usually do against the Knicks. What I want to know is where this was in the beginning of the season?

Before Thursday night, Felton had broken 10 assists just once over his 19 games played this year. That once was back in early November against the Minnesota Timberwolves, when he racked up 12. Last night’s 14 assists were the key to a big win over the Miami Heat and it was apparent that solid point guard play is the missing piece for this Knicks team.

More important than the 14 assists were the two turnovers. In a game with that much passing, you’d expect a larger number of turnovers. Going 14 and two is amazing, and adding 13 points is just gravy.

Amar’e Stoudemire was the other stud last night. Playing key minutes down the stretch, he battled underneath for the grittiest 14 points I’ve seen in a long time. He fought against Chris Bosh and Chris Anderson, backing down time after time in the post. He had a statement jam late in the fourth when the Knicks passed the ball around outside for about nine seconds before finding a wide open Stat under the basket. That slam was a statement from not only the Knicks, but from Amar’e himself.

Stoudemire also added 11 rebounds, a season high for him. With Tyson Chandler out of the lineup, he and Andrea Bargnani played great games, hitting shots and making an impact on the defensive side of the ball. Bargnani contributed 19 points and a blocked shot in the win.

This was a team win. Five guys were in double figures, there were two double-doubles (Felton and Stoudemire) and more passes than in any game this season. The ball was flowing and if Felton can continue to breakdown defenses and Stoudemire can be a presence in the paint, the Knicks will continue this streak and get themselves turned around real soon.




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L-Switch
L-Switch

I didn't get to post last night but I did see the game and that was one of the most enjoyable games I have ever witnessed. I posted on Facebook that we would win and people said I was crazy but I kind of knew we would get up for this game. 


Also I hear the Spurs might take a flier on Jr Smith. I like the young guards getting that run to develop. I still can't get over Timmy making Ray Allen apart of his first official poster. #KnicksTape#OscarTheBaller

tw22
tw22

Felton is healthy, for the first time since the preseason, thus the production. He may not be the ultimate answer we are looking for at point guard but when he is healthy, he is good enough to be the rock for this team with Melo, Stat, and Bargnani all playing well.

Lest we forget the reason why the Knicks can beat the Heat time and time again is because they don't have a point guard that can challenge us and LeBron cannot check Melo one on one. Or problem last year is that we weren't built the Pacers, and I still don't think we are.


That said, if you want to look at this game as a positive turning point, go ahead, but I believe the real turning point was Felton getting healthy and returning to the lineup with vigor a couple of games earlier. Having Stat play the kind of game we have all talked about him having since coming back from his multiple surgeries doesn't hurt either. he gives the Knicks a much needed weak-side game that makes it tough for opposing teams to play us man up. Things could get interesting when Chandler returns and if this team stays healthy. A healthy dose of Hardaway and Murray over Smith is also crucial. I'll take hunger over full any day of the week.

Lo, if there was away to jettison Smith for a bag of peanuts. He is a cancer. I applauded he resigning entirely due to the fact that it was a pretty favorable contract for the team going forward, but I was done with him after he elbowed Jason Terry and cost the Knicks almost a week's rest between rounds 1 and 2.

brookdon
brookdon

The set we ran with Melo Amare and Bargs where Andrea posted at the FT line and Melo passed it into Stat from the arc into the post is pretty much unstoppable offensively. Defense really has to pick their poison.

We got lucky because defensively that's probably the worst front court in NBA history but offensively that look is nice.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

TKB is turning into a Battle Royale between the glass half full crowd and the glass half empty crowd.

I remember the good, old days when it was everybody versus Tommy Dee.

zebeto
zebeto

...felton IMO is playing better cause he looks like he's lost atleast 10 lbs , since his injury ...

..

...dude played well, hope it keeps up 


HypoCrit_calNYKfans
HypoCrit_calNYKfans

When Woodson stop playing Felton out of position at the 2 In that BS small ball lineup with the 3rd string pg PP doing his best YMCA over 35 impersonation trying to play the point, when Woodson coach like he know what he is doing then players like Felton will start playing like their role and position dictate they play!

knick4life
knick4life

I just read Sandro's ridiculous post.  Guys if I ever become that delusional and self-observed I give you permission to revoke my ability to post on any social media forum. 

melo7
melo7

Jr and Tyson for Eric Gordon and a 2nd rounder

ds2488
ds2488

When you have a team effort like that it opens up everything for guys like Stat and Bargs.  Ray did an amazing job running the pick and roll and even more importantly setting up the offense.  When you can add 2nd and 3rd options and timely shooting around a player of Melo's talent that's a good offensive recipe for success.


I loved the double picks they were running with Stat and Bargs which seem like a new wrinkle.  That gives Bargs the ability to pop and Stat to roll, which doubles the options for Ray obviously.  


Then you put some shooters around that action and you have an offensive system that can work.  Shump didn't necessarily have a "dominant" game but he continued to play very well and contribute all the little things, along with now hitting big shots.  

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

Goodness - are all these separate threads really necessary?!?  You could just keep adding to one or two post-game threads rather than add new ones...

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

My favorite part of the game last night was Tim Jr's putback slam in which he proceeded to say "Jesus Shuttle Deez Nuts!"

Ok lip reading isn't my strong suit.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

It should be mentioned that the Knicks controlled the glass last night. Miami got all of 4 offensive boards. Not many second chances to be had for the Heat. We won the battle 43 to 32. STAT lead the way with 11, Shump had 9, and Melo had 8. Not bad considering our best rebounder was out. 

Very unusual way to victory for the Knicks.

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

Even last year, a healthy Knicks team would always play its best ball against the best opponents. The same is true now as they get healthy (Melo back after ankle spraing) and Chanlder back this team will get better and better. I know everyone loves Murry here, but getting Prigs back is huge too. A healthy Felton and Prigs with the rest of the team healthy makes them the 3rd best team in the east. And they will finish there by seasons end. 

brookdon
brookdon

Prime Stat was waaaay better.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@SheSaidSpikeWho Scorer who cant defend a lick...only comparison I see.  Other than that...STAT was WAY more athletic than Kevin Love...bad comparison.  I'd say Blake is the new STAT....if anything.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knicks_Fanatic LOL

Chris Singleton is the leading vote getter for this years All Star game.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb Dude, we ain't going very fat with relying on STATues!  Although STATues is maybe our only big with an inside presence and that says a lot about our chances moving forward there.

I will give STATues his props for a few good games but he is turnover prone and his defense is beyond poor.  Teams like Indy will kill us with STATues in the lineup.  Inside is where the Heat is weak and that is their Achilles heel.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@akamarb  

"we are at our best when Felton plays well - its no coincidence that EVERY time he plays well - we ALWAYS win"

No one argues otherwise.  The team always plays well when they get good guard play.  The point is that Ray cannot sustain a high level of play on a consistent basis.  Yes, he lit up a PG-less Boston team and ran circles around a washed-up KG playing C, but then we saw the real Felton the following round.  A 20+ game here, and 0-7 game here.  

So yes, the Knicks go with Felton - up and down, up and down.

knick4life
knick4life

@Elvis Maduro It would be terrific if we didn't have to play him out of position at Center as much as we do, but man, KMart has been awesome.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Knicks_Fanatic 

Shump really is a very good rebounder from the guard position.

rkj473
rkj473

@Lee Lewin I think everyone likes Murry (including myself) because, like Prigs, when they enter the game there is a different energy that follows them unto the court and within the other 4 guys on the court as well.

knick4life
knick4life

@BiggieSmalls@ds2488 I still think some changes need to be made, but like I said all season, this team goes as Felton goes. 


Really happy with how the team is playing right now and am also happy that most of the "trolls" have disappeared.   We can actually discuss basketball again without people endlessly bashing the team and every single one of its players.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@BiggieSmalls @DolanitisDr  

"If Felton was consistent he wouldnt be... Felton.."

Well yes ... I was describing Felton ... not anyone else.  But I agree with you on his minutes ... he is treated like the all-star PG he is not, with a guaranteed starting role and 35 min/night.  High 20s, with some allowances for when he's on a hot streak, sounds good to me.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@knick4life

Dude, Felton never goes very long without digressing.  Even under Pringles, he used to burn out and start chucking up poor shots.

You ever noticed that Felton usually plays better after a decent rest of days off and once he gets more games under him, he gets exposed.  He can't stay healthy or keep up consistent play for some reason.

We surely need good PG play and we also need an inside presence because  Melo and co will not always shoot well from the perimeter.

 

rkj473
rkj473

@DolanitisDr @OLD_KNICK That's was my initial reaction when I read this post. The same guy yesterday talking about the Knicks should "look past the Heat," is all of a sudden gloating about the play of players during yesterdays game.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@OLD_KNICK @DolanitisDr 

Yes, I have seen that as well - articles based on comments in previous threads.  I don't want to be an a55 about it, but dudes don't seem like "basketball people".  

Most people write for basketball blogs because they love the game/team.  I just don't get that vibe here.