Ball movement a key issue to slow start

Harris Decker

Pablo PrigioniDo you know what happens when a team has three scorers in double digits and three scorers who made a single basket in a game? It usually means that the team is going down in a losing effort. This was the case last night for the struggling Knicks, as they lost to the Celtics for the second time this season.

Once again, ball movement was a key issue. In the 4th quarter, with the game still well in hand, the Knicks managed only 2 assists in the entire period, scoring just 13 points as they flamed out…again. The balanced attack from the Celtics was evident. They had five players score 8+ points. The Knicks had just four on top of three and two point performances from Pablo, Shumpert and J.R. Smith.

Ball movement is the issue for this Knicks team. With so many players who are capable of scoring, a point guard needs to be able to spread the ball around and get it to the open guy. This year, the Knicks leading assist man is Raymond Felton. He’s ranked 31st in the league with 5.2 assist per game. On a team with this kind of potential, that just isn’t good enough. They need a point guard. Desperately. Maybe Kyle Lowry is that guy. But until he gets here, we won’t know.

The lack of a point guard is a troubling sign on a team that is playing without their all pro defensive center, Tyson Chandler. In his absence, if interior defense were an issue, you’d understand. If they weren’t registering blocks or running the pick and roll, you’d understand. Instead, it’s the ball movement that has been the largest issue. I blame Raymond Felton. I blame Mike Woodson. Without a trade, I don’t really see a solution.




83 comments
buddhabing
buddhabing

I think a big reason they aren't winning is that they aren't hitting 3s at the ridiculous pace they were hitting them last season. A lot of the problems they have now they had last year but they were covered up by their record breaking 3 point barrages. Now that opponents have caught up with their strategy and the 3s aren't falling the team is lost. When was the last time this team won where it didn't involve a lot of success shooting 3s? They are a one trick pony under Woodson.

rb3b3
rb3b3

WRONG!!!!!!!! HEART AND DETERMINATION are the keys to a BAD start! This team has been horribly constructed in the off season! These are the keys to a bad start!

chuco
chuco

Even though we don't have a pick this year couldn't we buy one from a team who has multiple first round picks this year ???

prince
prince

And Phoenix is looking to trade some picks seeing as though they have four first rounders next year

prince
prince

So apparently the Sixers are about to trade Turner to the Cavs for Waiters! We can offer way better than that and shouldn't pass up a chance at a talent like Turner

rgm891
rgm891

Do you guys think Dolan will fire Woodson, or wait til he quits? Obviously if the losing continues

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Woodson has the honor of being the fastest coach to 50 wins in franchise history and the worst start in franchise history.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Any chance we can get a 2014 pick from Phoenix and tank the rest I the way? And without trading Melo I mean.

marvel
marvel

"the season of excuses "


no pg


no Chandler


SGs suck


no identity


bad rotations and lineups


poor help defense


under prepared


over hyped...


I really hate watching this team.













NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

These problems go back to preseason.

Woodson didn't declare Shump or JR the starter.

Woodson questioning how to get Bargnani involved.

Woodson in the first game telling the team that they should be the best offensive team in the NBA and saying they should score 120 points per game.

You hear it from the players.

JR said he is trying something new

Melo said he is trying something new

Many quotes about trying to figure it out and understanding each other

Constant bickering on the court between team mates.

This team has no direction.

Now I'm not saying the Knicks are a championship team, but they are not a 6-16 team either. The Knicks need new leadership if they are going to salvage this season. They are LUCKY to be in the Atlantic.

I think Woodson deserved to coach the team this season. But just as much, unfortunately, I think he has to go now.

rgm891
rgm891

How you guy's think the Knicks will do tonight without Stat and Kmart against Teague, Horford, Millsap. Will Cole and Murray get burn?

rico
rico

How do you blame Felton when he's not playing? Good one!

frank43
frank43

If my job was on the line I'd give Murry a little time. Isn't that how they stumbled on Lin

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Livefyre and TKB on the iPad are worse than our guards.

yoyo66
yoyo66

@buddhabing Nope. The reason the 3s are down is the Knicks don't push the ball upcourt this year, They also don't run any offensive plays to get guys open off of screens.

yoyo66
yoyo66

@rb3b3 Baloney. This team has more talent than last year's squad. The mix aint great but that falls on a certain goateed coach, who obviously isn't up for the job...

frankieboy
frankieboy

@rgm891 Fire . Woody is not walking away from money. Knows he won't be bred for a while. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@NYKnickerBocker 

Phoenix is looking for a quality player to build around, with Bledsoe and Dragic in the backcourt. I don't think we would have much to deal on with them.

Tikki
Tikki

@NYKnickerBocker But it still wouldn't be the Knicks' pick - it would be connected to the performance of the Suns/Wizards/Minny, so I don't think the Knicks tanking would help.

frank43
frank43

@marvelcould this all be a CAA conspiracy to bring back Isaiah and have Chris Smith at point

buddhabing
buddhabing

@rgm891 I thought the minute and back to back games restrictions were off when it came to Stat? He played a back to back already didn't he?

JerseyFan1
JerseyFan1

They will get burned on the bench.

saintknick
saintknick

@OLD_KNICK The Knicks leaked that Dolan is pissed off about the leaks. That was probably an intentional leak, as is almost every leak this organization makes, intended to convince Toronto that they cannot squeeze more out of the organization. Its a negotiation tactic, and if I can see through it, so will they.


Dolan's problem is he's always had so much leverage in every business negotiation that he thinks he's smarter than everyone else because things work out. Great negotiators take advantage of that hubris. 

chuco
chuco

@Sandro Guedes @chuco ok even with a team like the suns who have multiple firsts we couldn't get one done without using Melo 

prince
prince

Shumpert and a 2018 First Rounder

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

@Tikki

Why couldn't we trade for a pick back?

Edit: just read your edited reply, thanks.

rgm891
rgm891

@grand_puba @rgm891 Yeah apparently the medical staff wants to sit him, but woodson claimed he had no idea that was happening....... 

rgm891
rgm891

@OLD_KNICK @rgm891 Jeff Teague is going to murder us!!!!!!!!!!! Do you think Woody gets fired, or Dolan will wait til he quits? If this continues

rgm891
rgm891

@Tikki @NYKnickerBocker This is what I was also thinking. I like the idea of saving shump and trading him with Stat, and using a first rounder and see if we can get a nice player in return

Tikki
Tikki

@NYKnickerBocker A trade for a 1st-rounder could still be helpful, if the Knicks could then flip the pick (along with Shump, Hardaway, etc.) for a high-caliber player.  Just not sure that any such player is realistically available.

grand_puba
grand_puba

@rgm891 @grand_puba Damn, I mean probably a smart move in the grand scheme, but I hate to see ball stop once it gets rolling if ya know what I mean. 

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

@rgm891

You are not alone on this. I don't even know why I watch some times.

rgm891
rgm891

@OLD_KNICK @rgm891 haha nahh over 15 years now. I just realized how long it has been!!!! How long you been a fan for?

rgm891
rgm891

@OLD_KNICK This is the sad truth man. We are terrible at best. And fools like us watch these guys on a daily basis!!!!!