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Derek Fisher gets coaching blessing from Gregg Popovich, Shane Battier

Spurs head coach Gregg Popovich and Miami Heat forward Shane Battier both had positive things to say about Derek Fisher’s prospects as an NBA head coach before Game 3 of the NBA Finals Tuesday night (Newsday, June 10).

“I think he’s got a great opportunity to have a really good career,” Popovich said. “He’s crazy to do it. Coaching in this league is crazy. He obviously wants to do it and he’s got a mentor in Phil [Jackson] that’s going to help him be successful, help set the stage for him, give him a comfort zone.”

Battier compared Fisher to Jason Kidd and Steve Kerr among players “you just know” are going to be head coaches someday.

“Five years at $25 million will make anyone think differently about their future choices,” Battier said of his plans following his retirement after this season. “Everyone knew that D-Fish was going to be a coach. You could tell that Steve Kerr was itching to get back into the game from the booth. There are certain guys, you just know, are going to find their way to a bench someday.”

Popovich knows all too well what sort of talent Fisher is bringing to the table.

“He’s obviously a very intelligent individual who understands the game, knows how to play, knows what it takes to win and lose. There’s no reason why he can’t be really successful,” Popovich said of the player whose turnaround, buzzer-beating game-winner for the Lakers nabbed the 2004 Western Conference semifinals from the Spurs.

But Battier, who has played against Fisher for a number of years, said it takes a certain kind of player to become a coach – and not everyone can do it.

“Coaching is so much more than just knowing the game,” Battier said. “If that were the case, a lot more people who played the game would be successful as coaches. There have been a lot of coaches who know the game and played the game at a high level but it just doesn’t translate to coaching.

As far as Battier is concerned, however, Fisher is the type of player who can coach.

“Coaching is dealing with personalities. It’s dealing with schematic changes. There is so much that goes into coaching. Not just having a feel for the game. But I think D-Fish will do well. Just like I think Jason Kidd will do well. And Steve Kerr will do well. But there is no way you can look at a guy and say, for sure, that guy has it all figured it out.”




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BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Kobe coming to NY is exactly what this franchise needs today.  That would primarily cement Carmelo signing on for five years.  Having Super Stars is what wins in the NBA.  Not having a dream and a draft pick. 



Bringing Kobe to NY for TWO years at 23.5 and 25 mil at the expense of Stat's expiring and a young prospect will instill a winning culture in the locker room.   You wont see JR licking Vaseline and Felton eating fried chicken before games.,,,  You wont hear Chandler complain about anyting for fear of the rath of the Black Momba.   Hainvg Kobe here is like having MJ here for that fabled time all the Kerr lovers keep referring to.   He'll talk Italian to Bargnani and get in Shump's head.


Surround Kobe and Melo with some role players and this team will compete.  Kobe wants another ring and his drive and determination can do nothing but rub off on some of the lack of experience and professionalism we've witnessed in the knicks locker room.


Waiting til 2015 just means trying to sign a 30 year old veteran to a long term contract at less than they could get elsewhere.. 


If Kobe is healthy and ready to play we would compete in 2014 and 2015 and then get all out cap space back for 2016  when Durant is a free agent.. 

theking
theking

lmaooooooooo SAS said skip spiked his mountain dew when skip said scottie pippen wasn't a top 50 player lml these two go at it all day

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Hahn on Fish:


This is not a ceremony, this is not for P.R.," he said as he stood on a dais at the MSG Training Center.

"This is not for Phil [Jackson] and I just to hang out again as friends. This is to go to work, get our job done. And we want to add more banners to this ceiling in here."

His eyes looked up, scanning the rafters for banners. The one's he was referring to were on the other side of the gym. And yes, they're old, yellowed and lonely.


But from conversations with Jackson, he's learned that somewhere buried deep under the misery of bad seasons, bad trades, bad contracts and bad luck, under the images of Game 7 in '94, suspensions in '97, Ewing's injuries in '98 and '99, there is a legacy to dig out and put back up on the mantle.



http://sulia.com/alanhahn/

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Let's be real.. 


No one is saying anything bad about anyone/


Im enthused for Fisher to be a no nonsense pro and a quick Study.


We need to monitor Kobe's recovery and swing for the fences if he looks healthy..

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@BiggieTKB I think getting Kobe would be great. Like you said "monitor his recovery" then go from there. 

knickfan2
knickfan2

@BiggieTKB, I truly doubt the league would allow the Lakers & Knicks to conduct any business with Phil being here and his wife being in charge of B-ball operations in L.A.

When Phil was first hired for the Knick job, he had a meeting with league execs who basically told him that they would be keeping an eye on Phil & Jeannie concerning any potential deals between the two organizations.

theking
theking

@BiggieTKB  wouldn't mind but he is making 24 mill a year what pieces can we put around him and melo if he takes up a lot of the cap

kofi
kofi

"To suit it own agenda?" And what Sir. is that? In my opinion S.A...is oozing with elite-ism. Instead of denying something about someone you have never had a conversation with, try expounding on the comments the Author is referring to. I would love to hear you defend S.A's comments.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint @BiggieTKB such a weak retort.. but expected when you have no reasonable answer.


so tell me how kobe makes 30 mil a year and isnt a great defender (never mind all the first team all defense votes) and will never be healthy again..

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint @knega who said Kobe is totally healthy now?


I guess we'll put that in the same bucket as you saying repeatedly Kobe makes 30 mil when you've been corrected and accepted being wrong.


yet you continue to write it.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@Sandro Guedes @thatsagoodpoint Kobe plays defense and is a proven assasin.


Comparing him to Harden is laughable.


Melo aint going to Houston to play for peanuts.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@Sandro Guedes @thatsagoodpoint  Melo and Kobe will definitely not work because both play he same type of game and there is only one ball to go around.. And plus not sure what Kobe has left in the tank. Probably not much to be worth the risk

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

@knicksgirl35 @BiggieTKB Of all the people in the world I would think Phil Jackson can tell if Kobe is healthy enough to pull  the trigger on a trade.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@knickfan2 say HUH?  the league would cherish Kobe in NY with Melo and Phil.


please stop with the nonsense about secret meetings.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint @BiggieTKB 23.5 mil next year...  Send Stat's expiring deal there plus Hardaway.


I'd rather a healthy Kobe in 2014 than cap space in 2015.

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@Tony Fonseca They are professionals. They would work it out. Besides I don't think Kobe nor Melo wants the full load on them anymore so it may work out fine.

knickfan2
knickfan2

@theking...just ask Chris Paul and the Lakers. Remember David Stern's infamous reason for vetoing the trade... The NBA disallowed the trade that would have sent CP3 to the Lakers for "basketball reasons."

kofi
kofi

Brother I respect your opinion...I also have been listening to S.A for some time, and I've always found him to be a "capitalist elite." he's always talking about "I'm about dat money." When you've reached a level of success. ..financially, or entertainment exposure it's not hard to start looking down on the people who may have less. I personally think it's subconscious. His portrayal of this defender of the Black community is nothing more than satire for me...A complete joke! He works for "Disney" one of the most diabolical racist in the history of America. There not going to allow S.A to deal with these issues holistically. If you're not in the position to speak the complete truth... you become adversarial.

Again I believe there's a level of self hate going on here...Some cognitive dissidence.

Again I respect and a appreciate your opinion.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint @BiggieTKB @knega So formulaic..   How did  two ball dominant wing scorers doing in Miami BTW?


Maxing out your team to add another Super Star is the GOAL... 


Waiting til 2015 is a leap of faith.,


It doesnt matter.. Anyone who thinks Kobe Bryant plays defense at a James Harden level is beyond hope.



Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@knicksgirl35 @Tony Fonseca good point girl.. However, I think Phil wants to go young and that's why he hired Fisher as someone that can relate the hip hop of the young emerging starts. Plus, we have gone that route and hired old super stars and time again it never worked. IMO, I want the Knicks to go young.

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

@BiggieTKB @thatsagoodpoint Of all the guys we can get in 2015 none are better than a healthy Kobe except Lebron.I think we can win in 2014 with that group.I would never sell Kobe short he has an unusual work ethic.

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

@thatsagoodpoint @ReneNYK1 @BiggieTKB Yea but we have Melo and Kobe and Phil ,we sign Gasol on the cheap and Blake and make a run now.

knickfan2
knickfan2

@thatsagoodpoint, you may be right. But if that's the case, why would the league meet with Phil & Jeannie after Phil was hired?

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint @BiggieTKB he's Kobe friggin Bryant... I'll take him at 35/36 over 95% of the players in the league.


i prefaced my original comment by saying "if healthy"

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint @BiggieTKB "joygasm" wasnt funny the first time you used it on this thread.,, this occurance makes it six usages.


What  do you anticipate doing with this 2015 cap space you cherish?   tell me the player you will offer that cap space to for a four year max deal that will.


i didnt say trading for kobe will result in anything other than a competitive team in the east.. saying multiple championships is just plain made up.


what you offer is a non competitive team in 2014 and pie in the sky for 2015.

theking
theking

@thatsagoodpoint  so if phil wants him you would question it? you came at me for questioning trying to hire kerr

theking
theking

@knickfan2  maybe to discuss other matters who knows ... I don't think they can stop a team from trading anyone if the league doesn't own the team

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@theking @thatsagoodpoint  I just don't think that Phil's plan includes Kobe at all. He said he is looking to maximize the potential of our current roster and steal the end of the bench players that he likes before he can carefully choose his stars and develop his championship team. So the Kobe's discussion here is mute.

knickfan2
knickfan2

@thatsagoodpoint @theking I see what you guys are saying. I'm just real skeptical from years of being a Knick fan. Truth of the matter, I wouldn't be too fond of Kobe coming to NY at this stage of his career anyway.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint you want younger?  so you dont want to win anytime soon.


i want to win.  i dont want to hear about pie in the sky

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@thatsagoodpoint We need stars in order to snatch a championship away from the Heat or the Spurs. I don't want to wait 3 or 4 years for one.

theking
theking

@thatsagoodpoint @theking @BiggieTKB  who the fvck are you for me to change what I said? I know I said I wouldn't take that contract because I use to argue with xmen about havin him on this team with the contract

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@knicksgirl35 @thatsagoodpoint  You better have patience because it took Pat Riley 11 years to bring a chip to Miami. He joined the heat in June 1995 and they first win was in 2006. I think Phil will bring a chip sooner because he is much better than Pat Riley...

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

@theking @ReneNYK1 @thatsagoodpoint @BiggieTKB Durrant is available in 2016 and he loves Fisher and by that time would be tired of losing with Westbrook.


BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@thatsagoodpoint @BiggieTKB in the modern NBA unless you get Tim Duncan in the lottery no one wins now and wins 5-10 years,.   The NBA is a series of three year cycles.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@BiggieTKB @thatsagoodpoint  I disagree Biggie, ask Pat Riley, the Spurs, OKC if the NBA is a 3 year plan. These organizations have their core players and plan but they are constantly retooling without dismantling the team. For example the Spurs traded George Hill to pick Leonard in the draft. That is LONG term planning.. Knicks of the past would NEVER EVER do that. what brings success many times are the little things and a complete forward looking. Not construct and dismantle 3 in 3 years. IT DOES NOT WORK.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@BiggieTKB @Tony Fonseca @thatsagoodpoint  And I don't see an end in sight for the Heat's run as much as I HATE them with all my guts. I want to emulate that SPURS philosophy. Better than that, Phil has beaten both Riley and Spurs in the head to head match up constantly and he will do it again. IMO, that is why he came to Knicks: to square off with Riley again.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

@Tony Fonseca @BiggieTKB @thatsagoodpoint you dont see an end in sight?  with Wade playing less and less and all their role players looking to retire to a cushy ESPN job?   well as long as they have Lebron i suppose they continue to compete but he's another one of those anomalies that comes once a generation.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@BiggieTKB @Tony Fonseca @thatsagoodpoint  If you are just thinking that Riley is going to stay put, you will be disappointed. He will NOT. As we are debating, he is planning his next move to keep the run going by retooling and tweak the roster.