Final: Knicks 105, Spurs 101

The Knicks (10-21) upset the Spurs (25-8), 105-101.

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Carmelo Anthony, who scored a season-low 16 points in the Knicks’ first game vs. San Antonio, had 27 points in his return to the lineup.

This marked the Knicks’ first win against a Western Conference team.

Five different Knicks scored in double-figures, including Iman Shumpert, who had a career-high 27 points.

The Spurs’ front-court tandem of Kawhi Leonard and Tim Duncan were held to a combined 17 points and 11 rebounds.

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A streak no more.

New York bucked a pair of streaks — a string of three straight losses and a nine-game losing mark to Western Conference opponents, as they upset the Spurs (25-8), 105-101.

After clinging to a five-point lead at halftime, the Knicks were able to stave off the Spurs late in the fourth quarter, finally displaying that oh-so-important defense that has been lacking all season long.

Tied at 98 with 1:12 remaining, Iman Shumpert made a 3 to give the Knicks back the lead, but Marco Belinelli answered right back to knot it up at 101. Again, it was Shump who took over, giving the Knicks a two-point lead before Carmelo Anthony closed out the win with a pair of free-throws.

Anthony, who was sidelined for the past three games due to an ankle injury, returned to the lineup to score a team-high 27 points and team-high 12 rebounds. Shumpert also had 27 points, a season-best mark.

Three other Knicks scored in double-figures, including Andrea Bargnani (10), Beno Udrih (10) and Amare’ Stoudemire (11) off the bench. In all, three of the Knicks starters had positive +/- marks on the night.

New York now owns an 1-9 mark against the West on the year.

The Spurs were led by  Belinelli, who led all scorers with 32 points, including six made 3s. Tony Parker added 12 points and seven assists, and Manu Ginobli contributed 11 points and 12 assists off the bench.

The Spurs’ front-court tandem of Tim Duncan and Kawhi Leonard combined for 17 points and 11 boards.




150 comments
tifoso6
tifoso6

correction i meant substitutes

tifoso6
tifoso6

on espn boxscore  plus or minus only one knick was not in the negative murray who was even.

rkj473
rkj473

If Murry continues to prove to be a solid option of the bench (I think he should be starting) when Prigs or even Felton comes back, would Woody go back to playing the two-point guards lineup?



orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eYqARFJaoIA

Last two Shumpert makes.  What is interesting is the little two man game that JR and Melo did at the end that resulted in basically  a wide open Melo looked that he missed.  However, it started as an iso but morphed into a better look even though he missed.

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

Shump played like he was the only ones that didnt drink on new Years lol

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

FINALLY!!! I just hope my boy Bubba Gump Shump can play like this or somethin similar consistently! He was impressive tonight. We know his Defense and athleticism are off the charts but I saw him in PnR with Stat and Tyson a few times which is a key to Amares longevity and to Tysons scoring anything besides a put back lol. Good win!

buddhabing
buddhabing

With a healthy squad i would love to see a lineup of Murry, Shumpert, Metta, Kenyon and Chandler for short stretches when this team needs a defensive boost. I think they would suffocate the opponent. Would have trouble scoring though.

fasheezee
fasheezee

Woodson exhibits the traits of an emotionally abusive coach:


Regularly uses public embarrassment and humiliation on his/her athletes


Rarely uses praise or positive feedback


Is a yeller


Demeans his/her players


Is overly negative and a pro at catching athletes doing things wrong


Is more interested in his/her needs then those of his/her players


Over-emphasizes the importance of winning


Is a bully (and therefore a real coward)


Is a poor communicator


Consistently leaves his/her athletes feeling badly about themselves


Kills his/her athletes’ joy and enthusiasm for the sport


Is a master of DENIAL!!!!!


I got this list from an article regarding coaching abuse. The Knicks need to get rid of him ASAP.

tifoso6
tifoso6

Will Woodson discover that Shumpert and Murray are great together defensively.  Or will he send Murray back to 14th man.

CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

Besides Shump, I think the biggest plus from last night was Woodson's rotation.  The only blemish I can remember was him putting JR in for Shump when Shump was hot (even Clyde mentioned it), but after that, he played who was doing well and I think the players fed off of that.  In particular Beno, he sensed Toure was playing well, so when he got back in, it seemed to me like he picked it up!


Well done Woodson, keep that up!

zebeto
zebeto

How did Toure Murray do last night ???

dagawd
dagawd

MelO gets the super max


150 mil this summer


After that contract there will be the MelO rule

lindro88
lindro88

Joe Johnson may do nothing for 47 minutes, but I haven't seen any player in the league make more game tying or winning shots. It's really incredible. Ibaka's hand right in his face.

C0P0
C0P0

Very good win! 

I witnessed hustle out there, except defending the three. 

The team needs to pay a fine for every opponent 3 made and uncontested.

Good to see Shumpert earn some respect for 24hrs. He earned it. No trade today.


I'll continue to keep my optimism close to the vest for now. 

One game, however good, isn't enough to get carried away with this group.

zippo
zippo

I think melo gone 90%  after this season.i thinking he is saying what he has to so he is not traded to prob the clippers so they not gutted like we were ,he learned his lesson hes gona jump on a strong deep team...I hope not but I think so

Chris
Chris

@rkj473 I would say no, because he is dedicated to playing big. Or is being told by CAA to push Bargs so he can get another big contract and they can make more money?

MetsKnicks
MetsKnicks

@akamarb just because melo hasnt been hitting game winners doesnt mean he hasn't hit clutch shots

knick4life
knick4life

More like Robert Horry. Let's not get crazy.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@Kojo Brown Is the poster boy Bobby Knight?....lol....Woodson is just trying to emulate his mentors Knight and Larry Brown. I don't think he's a bad dude it's just that he doesn't seem to have a grasp of when to be tough and when not to. I don't think the players on the team dislike him. It's just when you are losing players and fans tolerance for such things gets small. If you ask me i think he's more bark than bite and the players know it.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@tifoso6 As long as Felton and Prigs are out, they'll get the time. If the team achieves results, Woodson won't stray from it. For his countless flaws as a coach, he isn't a compelte idiot. He knows well enoguh his job is at risk every day and that he's done little to prove he deserves the gig.

Just like last season, when he found a lineup and rotation that gave him results, he stuck to it. In last season's case, it meant taking minutes away from Novak to give them to Novak and reduce Kidd's miinutes.

If he stumbles upon a lineup/rotation like last season (and I focus on stumble because he's not been smart about anything, coach-related), he'll stick to it. 

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@tifoso6 well unfortunately you are right. Prigs will be back and Felton to oand no way Murray will get any burn anymore. However, i'll be happy to see Prigs back. This team is obviously much much worse when he's not in that lineup 25 minutes a night. 

Chris
Chris

@zebeto Played very well in the first half. Played about 2 minutes in second half. our coach  is an idiot

diggs
diggs

@moneyball So again, he's the racist but you look at his FB profile and see he's asain and then...what'd you call him again?

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Spot on. Great win, but only one win. Hopefully, this is Shump's real breakout game. He is such a key to this team.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Kiyan Carter 

Lin wasn't even cleared for contact in practice.You can't play unless you are medically approved which Lin never was. Lin had knee surgery. The 85% stuff is just SAS nonsense to cover for Dolan.

lindro88
lindro88

Lin and Felton are both backup quality pg's on a good team.

rkj473
rkj473

@Chris @rkj473 I guess that's true considering how many bodies we have in the front court.

Chris
Chris

@buddhabing @Kojo Brown Those are the traits of an abusive coach, not someones opinion. Simply go through the list carefully and you will find that Woody has most all of those traits. Maybe because he was abused he feels he must behave the same way. Knight, as brilliant as he is, is really a troubled individual, as is Brown. This he is an okay dude is not something that you actually know. It comes down to when he is coaching are these the things he is doing, and the answer is yes, thus he fits the defenition and should not be around young men. And don`t come back with the 21 and 22 year olds are fully men yet, physically yes, physiologically not close. The male brain doesn`t seal up til 26 to 30

fasheezee
fasheezee

@buddhabing @Kojo Brown The funny thing is people always use excuses when they hear that a certain behavior may be abusive. Knight won but he in fact did use abusive tactics. It doesn't affect everyone within the situation but it does adversely affect some--hence Shump and to a degree JR. Now he has Murry in his sights. People hate to think that abuse is occurring but the reality is the it is. People also think that if you don't put your hands on someone it's not abuse. Think again. This man is bad for the heads of players mainly young players. He is abusive regardless of folks not wanting to see it. Shump finally publicly spoke up for himself the other night  so he actually feels better about himself, hence his great play yesterday. He is mentally relieved. Constant berating does affect the psyche. Woody is a danger to this team not physically but psychologically.

zebeto
zebeto

@Chris@zebeto...nice...lets just hope that he doesnt go to 14th in the depth chart when prigs and felton come back .


diggs
diggs

@moneyball Did you just call him a racist AND a zipperhead in the same comment...smh...

lindro88
lindro88

What does Dolan have to do with it? Everything isn't about Dolan.

Chris
Chris

@OLD_KNICK @zebeto @Chris He is doing the same thing to Murry he did to Shump, trying to tear him down and ruin his mind. A coach should be trying to build up his players create the right mental frame of mind to allow them to play. This idiot continually tears down his players, especially the young ones he feels he can bully. This dude is a mean unhappy person and should be no where around basketball players

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@MeloStat301@Knicks_Fanatic@lindro88  

Here is what Lin said;

At the time, Lin says, he had been sleepingwith an ice machine on every night and waking up early to restart it. He couldn't even touch the rim, much less defend. But the morning of Game 5, when asked about his status, he had publicly diagnosed himself at "85 percent" -- a comment he says has since been misunderstood. Lin was not 85 percent healthy, he says, but rather 15 percent away from the absolute minimum threshold to play. "People think it was easy for me to sit there and watch us lose, like I had nothing to do with the season," Lin said. "I was dying to play. I didn't miss a game due to injury in seven years until this past season, and people are acting like I wouldn't want to play in the playoffs? Of the NBA? In my first season?"


Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2012/basketball/nba/07/18/jeremy-lin-exclusive/index.html#ixzz2pLdfshoR

 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLD_KNICK@MeloStat301@Knicks_Fanatic@lindro88  

Who is blinded here? Lin had surgery on April 2 and was expected to be out for six weeks. After 5 weeks, he wasn't ready to play.

Coach Mike Woodson says Jeremy Lin will not play in the Knicks' first-round series against Miami, even if they avoid elimination Wednesday.

The Knicks trail the Heat 3-1 and have lost guards Baron Davis and Iman Shumpert to knee injuries during the series. They hoped Lin would be able to return from his April 2 surgery to repair torn cartilage in his left knee, but Woodson says Tuesday that Lin is out.

"Speaking with medical and Jeremy, he will not play in this series," Woodson said after practice.

The Knicks said Lin was expected to miss six weeks after the surgery, but he has been working out at practice. Woodson says Lin shot around Tuesday "but he's just not physically ready to play."

Veteran Mike Bibby will start Wednesday.

http://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/Knicks-Heat-Jeremy-Lin-Wednesday-150636225.html

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@lindro88 

Lin was the goose that laid the golden egg for Dolan and the NBA. Once Dolan decided to let him go, MSG did a smear campaign through the media. The 85% is a part of that. The fact is Lin was never cleared by the medical staff to play. He had 0% chance of playing against the Heat. It wasn't until July that even became an issue.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@zdiddy4nyk@Knicks_Fanatic 

Whatever. Get rid of guys that can put the ball in the basket and replace them with guys that are not as good. That's a losing strategy. We are 10-25 and last in the Atlantic. If you think Bargnani is an improvement worth what we gave up up, we can disagree. I'll take the guy that hits 45% of his open threes over the guy that hits 30% because he takes contested shots.

The idea is to get open shots. If you are not open, pass the ball. That's how San Antonio plays the game.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@zdiddy4nyk@Knicks_Fanatic 

10-21 this year because we have dropped in offense significantly. Last year, we set a record for three point FG made. Novak was a large part of that. The three ball from the corner is the most efficient shot in the game and Novak can nail them.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@zdiddy4nyk@Knicks_Fanatic 

Are you an MSG shareholder? I could give a frack what Dolan pays out. Bargnani is getting $23 million for 2 years and we gave up a top notch three point shooter and 3 draft picks. Lin was available just for Dolan dollars and we got nothing back.