Final Score: Cavaliers 109, Knicks 94

The Knicks (5-15)  fell to the  Cavaliers  (8-13) tonight at Quicken Loans Arena, 109-94.

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The Knicks again opened the game flat. The starters combined for 22 points and not one player had a positive +/- mark.

Starting in place of the injured Kenyon Martin, Metta World Peace did not record a point or rebound in the first half. Iman Shumpert was scoreless as well.

Cleveland began to separate in the third quarter, scoring 33 points as the Knicks’ offense continued to sputter.

Aside from Carmelo Anthony and Andrea Bargnani, the Knicks’ starting five produced 10 points.

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The Cavaliers have been dominant at home of late, beating the likes of the Los Angeles Clippers, Chicago Bulls and Denver Nuggets in recent days. And they continued to exercise their home-court advantage with a 109-94 blowout of the visiting Knicks and handing them a second consecutive lopsided loss

The Knicks, days removed from the most lopsided loss of the NBA season against the Boston Celtics, again game out of the locker lethargic. Neither Iman Shumpert or Metta World Peace, who started in place of the injured Kenyon Martin, scored a point through the first three quarters. The duo combined for four total points.

Yet again, Carmelo Anthony was the only player in blue and orange to show up in Cleveland Tuesday night. He scored a team-high 29 points and eight rebounds. Andrea Bargnani had 11 points, but made just 5-of-17 shots.

Kyrie Irving was a force for the Cavaliers, dropping a game-high 37 points and dominating his matchup against Raymond Felton. Irving also had a game-high 11 assists, one fewer than the entire Knicks starting five.

After being humiliated by the Celtics days earlier, it may be even more discerning to see  the Knicks come out this flat. One has to wonder how much longer Mike Woodson is on the sidelines.

Next game: The Knicks play host to the Chicago Bulls on Wednesday, Dec. 11 at 8 p.m.

169 comments
kefhrny17
kefhrny17

Hate that woody plays favorites. These guys could use a better PG.

CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

Start Stat, play Toure as the backup (let Felton sit until he is 100%) and unleash Melo!  The Knicks lose when other teams go on runs and they never recover.  Once the Knicks miss 2 or 3 shots, go to your bread and butter, f the team ball in those instances!  The other players are not getting it done on a consistent basis, u gotta ride last year's NBA scoring leader till Chandler comes back and the others get rite!  I know the Melo bashers don't wanna hear this but this is what they must do...

JayfromtheFix
JayfromtheFix

I turned off the game last night with 4 mins to go when Kyrie dropped a 3 to put them up 13 i think. Woody needs to be fired, Kyrie started killing us in the 3rd both Felton and PP y not try Murray he couldn't do worse than these two. Clev went to bigs in the front court and it was clear that Bynum and Varajo was overpowering their match ups why not try Cole? When he subbed AB for THJR in the third or fourth quarter i frgot when it happened i was shocked cause JR was still on the floor. Do we need more reasons for Woodson to be let go?


As far as replacement goes I'm fine with Houston interim for about 5-8 games while they throw a bag of cash at someone cough Hollins cough. Hollins is a tough coach and dosnt take nonsense from anyone and demands everyone to play defense. I think guys like Shump THJR Melo Murray Artest and possibly AB could really benefit from Hollins being here. Players will know their roles and everyone will have to play defense or dont play at all. Look at the Memphis team he coached? Zach played defense?!!?!?!? his team was the leader in steals from pressuring the ball. 


So dont give me the we can't fire woodson because we will be stuck with Houston or Herb to coach us. Thats is just being lazy

chuco
chuco

I think j.r plays better high ever since he got caught they probably test him frequently that he's sober playing and he needs that buzz

chuco
chuco

Come DEC.15th we should package A.B,metta,j.r,and 2018 1st for someone please and the coach gotta go 

chrisb
chrisb

Again we give up over 100 and get in the 90s. This assembled group (don`t deserve to be called a team) are failing on both sides of the ball. Felton is a weak defender when healthy. Hahn let the cat out of the bag last night, he showed up for the season out of shape. And for this he was anointed the starter(coaching). This team cannot guard a pg, regardless who he is, to examine this one only has to look at the pick and roll defense. We defend it primarily by having the point guard running directly into the pick with the center dropping off and staying low, thus defending neither player, and ending up in a 2 on 1 situation. Every team in the league has figured this out and has taken advantage of this every time they feel like it. I was watching Shump and Ray defend cutters, because I wanted to see why Jack was so wide open in the corner. They both follow the cutter to the basket, and let him go to the corner while they protect the rim. When the ball is passed to him, they have no chance to defend as they are still under the rim. I don`t know if this is the scheme or they are just lazy, however in either case the man in the corner is wide open. The third glaring thing I saw on the def end was when Bargs and Stat were in the game. Neither find their man and box, so there are always 2 men free to hit the offensive boards. In contrast, Melo boxes every time down court unless his man balances back. There gentlemen and ladies is the prime reason we are the laughing stock of the league

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

Is this "coach" for effing real???

"Well, you can't tell him to stop shooting"

Yes. Yes you can.

YOU ARE THE FU%&$@G COACH!!!

If a player isn't doing what you want him to do, SIT HIS ASS DOWN!

That goes for ANY player!

For gods sake man, grow some balls!

dogmanx23
dogmanx23

The energy we lack when Bargnani starts at center is troubling. 


Another trade idea.


Amare/Shumpert for H.Turk/G.Davis/J.Nelson

Metropolitan
Metropolitan

NETS WIN and the Knicks LOSE! BOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOY!



tommy2b
tommy2b

Post game Woodson on Bargnani: "Well, you can't tell him to stop shooting."


Uhh... yeah you can.  That's why you're the coach!  Tell the guys who are hot to keep shooting and tell the guys that keep missing to STOP SHOOTING SO MUCH (JR!) and pass it to the guy(s) making shots!

Neil Savage
Neil Savage

I'm starting to realize some big changes need to made. Get JVG back. I love Carmelo, but we should trade him for Blake Griffin because he deserves to play for a winner and we get a young star to rebuild with. Prigioni, Shump, Metta, Blake, Tyson would be pretty solid. Look for Rondo in 2015.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

I'll say it again, you aren't going to win many games playing Bargnani as your starting center. The NBA's worst offense shredded us for 109 tonight.


They only positive was that I took my wife to see John Mayer and missed the game, and Mayer was not good.

tommy2b
tommy2b

Ok.  Orange and blue are out.  White's our only hope.

zippo
zippo

last year  with Pablo and felton starting together 15 and 1 record....woodson admits it was a good run the y had but he wants the team to adjust to a new style of playing even it means losing streaks.this coach is too stubborn just like dantoni was..they wont recover unless woodson is gone and if dolan keeps him we will play under 500 ball the rest of the way even if Tyson comes back playing well...the team is just broken I will and wont be shocked if woodson not fired by next game...

knickster
knickster

Biggie's 20 Game Evaluation is one of the roster only! lmao...here's hoping wife JaySille can instill some sense in him!

Biggie has lost his little mind....

rico
rico

@chuco High? He looks like he od'ed on some Angels Dust from the 70's.  Dude needs some ADD meds and to eat his Wheaties. He'd probably do better in a smaller market where they roll up the sidewalks at 9pm.  NY is no longer working for him. 

CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

@chrisb No argument, but don't big up Hahn.  When he said Melo wasn't working hard enough I was going to throw my beer bottle at the TV, but Wally quickly stepped in and basically said what the hell are u talking about!  Loved that moment, Hahn was trying to rile up the sheeple!

CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

@Steven Porter George Karl said it.  JR is a '50/50 player' and I quote him word for word!  50 percent good, 50 percent bad.  When he is 50 percent bad, SIT HIM!  I agree Steven,  he should have pulled Bargnani and JR, crazy!

Wicksell
Wicksell

When did he make this comment? Who was he referred to? That's crazy!!!

CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

@tommy2b Bargnani has game, but him going to the hoop is just sad!  Has no finish, they need to work on that!

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@tommy2b Melo and Amare were the only guys making shots.  Amare cannot play the whole game.  So, you want Melo to shoot 40 times...stop!!


We had no choice, but to let Bargs keep on shooting.  He was missing open shots.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@Neil Savage Melo>>>>>>>Blake Griffin.  I agree, Melo needs to play for a winner.  CP3 and Melo plus the rest of that team...championship contender!!


Must see TV (Griffin) would sell tickets for Dolan...I could see Dolan making that trade.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Neil Savage Another PF with low ball IQ, who can't defend, can't carry a team, has an inconsistent jumpshot, and only thrives of strong PG play? Pass.

Griffin has got to be one of the most overrated PF's in the league. He's great, make no mistake, but he spends too much time in a KIA Optoma suit instead of improving his game.


rico
rico

@tommy2b only so long you can blame it on the color of the laundry

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@tommy2b Don't forget the sleeve jerseys.

Those might bring us some more "bad luck".

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@zippo They can't beat the Pacers, Bulls, etc with Felton and Prig in the backcourt.  Because, we are a very bad rebounding team playing like that....

JayfromtheFix
JayfromtheFix

@BiggieSmalls Woody gets the year?  You just said Cole and Murray needs to play but they dont play thats on the coach. 

You dont think JR should play around 20 when he is off and give THJR and Shump more playing time to develop? Thats on the coach also


jimmybx
jimmybx

@BiggieSmalls Don't argue with these pigs, man. They're clueless. Until we get some of the guys in shape and ready to play, we're dead in the water. 

dweezil
dweezil

in total seriousness,how can you list Feltons lousy play as a reason for the Knicks woes,when he really hasnt played good basketball in his entire career?

bigdishing
bigdishing

@BiggieSmalls Actually, I think this might reflect the way Mills/Dolan/Houston are thinking. Problem is, we're 5-15 and have not played nba level basketball in half those losses. If we don't get killed by Boston, and are 8 - 12, maybe you could get away with this line of thinking. I just think Woodson has to take the fall here. I am not willing to go 20 - 62 based off last year's results. He hasn't earned that much. 



Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Biggie is warming up to the Cole train. All aboard! 

Aldrich, 3 boards in 3 minutes, Bargnani, 3 boards in 32 minutes.

bockers
bockers

@BiggieSmalls     LOL , nobody cares what your thoughts are.


The Knicks were not constructed correctly and you never understood.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@BiggieSmalls What about "making shots"?  That's what our coach thinks the problem is.  You don't disagree with the coach do you?

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

For me JR should sit all game long. He offers absolutely nothing. I am so sick of watching him. He acts like a superstar without a fraction of the production. Last season was a long time ago. He is completely taking the Piss (is this just an English phrase) and has done since he got paid. Absolute waste of space.

CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

@Wicksell Bargnani I believe!  He said it post game when asked about him shooting and missing!

tommy2b
tommy2b

@zdiddy4nyk If we have to live or die by Bargnani's jumper the season is already over.  Coaches need to make adjustments based on who's going.  Yes.  If Melo's going he has to shoot the ball until his arm falls off I'd rather see that then watch Bargs brick open jumper after open jumper.  You can tell right away whether Bargnani has 'it'.  He only gets worse as the game goes on.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@VerySilentJay @Neil Savage Blake is very over-rated, but he would sell tickets for Dolan.  That is a trade I wouldn't make, but Dolan would do in a NY minute.

knickster
knickster

lol...you can't make this sh*t up!

chuco
chuco

What it do Sandro

rgm891
rgm891

@knickster We would have a 5-80 record in no time with that approach. LMAOOOOO