Final Score: Celtics 114, Knicks 73

This afternoon at MSG, the Knicks got the absolute tar beat out of them by the Celtics by a score of 114-73. Also known as “a lot” to “a little”.

 The Least You Should Know:  

The Knicks scored all of 11 points in the first quarter; the Celtics put up 34. That pretty much sums this one up.

Jordan Crawford torched the Knicks with 23 and 7 dimes, with 6 threes. He has been playing well, but the Knicks made him look like an All-Star. Refusing to play any transition defense will do that.

Melo “led” the way for New York, scoring 19 on an inefficient 15 shots. He did most of his damage from the charity stripe going 8-for-10 from the line.

Tim Hardaway Jr. failed to take advantage of his first start of the season, finishing with 8 points in 25 minutes on 3-of-7 shooting.

The lead ballooned to 35 with just over five minutes left in the third, at which point the white flag came out and the game was over.  James Dolan did not stick around to watch the carnage, leaving his seat just before halftime and choosing not to return.

The Knicks are now 2-8 at home this season.

Ben Kopelman

Well that was heinous.

The Knicks came out…sluggish? Lost? Fully asleep? Completely uninterested? A little of each. A disastrous start, the Knicks did not hit a bucket until 5:40 left in the first quarter — at which point they were down 18-3. Classic Knicks-at-noon start.

Every single boo was well deserved.

Ray Felton looks bad right now. Not like bad compared to how he has looked before, downright bad-for-a-NBA-point-guard bad. Aside from his ugly line (0-6, 0 points, 2 dimes in 20 minutes), he just has no role right now. Not coincidentally, the Knicks regressed to stagnant, one-on-one offense. The scoreboard reflected how well that was working (hint: not well). Not sure what else Woodson needs to see to sit Ray and start Prig.

Metta gave the team a mini spark off the bench for a few minutes in the second quarter, but the C’s continued to make baskets and held on to an 27 halftime lead.

I am not saying it would be the right move, but I would not be shocked if Woodson was fired after this one. I mean, 41 points? At home? To the Celtics? Just really, really bad.

Not sure how this one happened. The team’s Jekyll and Hyde season continues, with a whoooole lot more Hyde (he’s the bad one, right?).


 Next Game: The Knicks next game comes Tuesday night, as the team travels to Cleveland to play the Cavaliers at 7:00pm.




74 comments
hubie_wc
hubie_wc

As long as Stevens is coaching Boston, they will own the Knicks. Get use to it Knick fans.

zebeto
zebeto

I blame Felton (like always)

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

So we were a bit early on "the Knicks are back!" proclamations ....

Brostoevsky
Brostoevsky

"I am not saying it would be the right move, but I would not be shocked if Woodson was fired after this one."

I will say it: Woody must go. Lack of effort and preparation is beneath even the minimum professional standard. This shouldn't even be a debate anymore.

It would be a mistake to dismiss this as one bad afternoon. This game pretty much sums up the entire season leading up to it. Pure debacle.

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

I live inEngland. Iv been to New York a few times and on each visit I manage to take in a game at MSG. My first live game was back in '01. The games usually tip off here around 12.30am and I stay up for most of them, even though I have work the next day. I read TKB most days but rarely post...although I did before my trip to NYC last year to get some tips for a good pre-game bar. I consider myself to be a pretty dedicated fan and have been trying to recruit my friends into getting into the Knicks. I had a few round to my house today for the game and I am sorry I did. That was pathetic. I, like a few on here, had renewed optimism after the last couple of games but was by no means proclaiming us to be a resurgent force, as its clear we beat a couple of bad teams...with one very bad coach.

The problems with this group is clear...even from my viewpoint thousands of miles away;

1. Lack of clear leadership and coaching. Woodson is a lame duck coach and appears powerless to change anything. I cant tell you how sick I am of seeing him standing on the sideline with that gormless mock-scowl on his face. He is unable or unwilling to change anything. His blind faith in JR is ridiculous. There is not one other coach in the league that would keep him in. Same with felton. I know the other options arent great but a statement should be made. Also his lack of ability or desire to call plays is abject!

2. The squad is devoid of leadership. I keep seeing people say "oh this is the same squad as last season minus a few old timers, we should be better"...Bullshiz...There is no one on this team who can lead and inspire...including Melo. A top player he is, a leader and great player he is not.

3. The switching on D...Jesus C Hrist the switching! Dantoni was hammered for it so why does Woodson get a pass?

4. Accountability...or lackthereof. Woodson makes big statements about accountability but I see no sign of it...at all.

There are more, and I could go on but I am sick of typing, and at this point im going to grab a beer and watch the Giants....that should be fun :/

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

If Woodson had an ounce of disicpline, he would've benched the entire lot of hustle-less punks.

You don't hustle, you don't play.

No messages, no mentoring, nothing. 

No only is it unacceptable when players don't hustle, it's even worse when coaches don't address it.

You pull a "Pop". You don't bring it, enjoy the bench while the 2nd and 3rd stringers put in the work you don't.

tommy2b
tommy2b

This loss was so bad I finally registered to post on livefyre.  

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Maybe they chose the wrong date for the MSG holiday party.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

Guess TKB should've waited longer than 2 games vs terrible teams to proclaim the "Knicks finally have righted the ship"

bigdishing
bigdishing

If CAA really wants to help Woodson, they'd let him lose this job. He'll resurface within a year coaching Orlando or something. Hell, Dantoni left us in a shitstorm and then got the laker job. 

Tikki
Tikki

Felton: "I don't think we had a bad effort. Those guys hit shots."


Yikes . . . 

poopface
poopface

@zebeto As bad as Ray Ray was, he's not capable of giving us a loss like this.


Steven Porter
Steven Porter

@DolanitisDr Just a bit. The contrast in the styles of play and the attitude was like night and day though. Today was such an anti-climax. I can handle getting beat but I cant handle displays like today with zero effort, application or passion.

franktkb
franktkb

I agree. Every Noon start they come out like they are still sleeping. A good leader gets his team ready under any circumstances. Every team has a stinker now and then but this team doesn't look ready to play more often than not.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Steven Porter


"As a leader of this team, I need other guys to help me lead." - Carmelo Anthony


Lol.  He is a great player, but no leader of men.  Everything you wrote was on point to anyone not wearing orange-and-blue shades.  Calling a team meeting does not make somebody a leader; how you lead your teammates on the court and from the bench is what counts.

Brostoevsky
Brostoevsky

If I came here from England and saw this game, I would've tried to recolonize the d@mn place.

Max Denby
Max Denby

This was one game u moron. None of this proves anything. They have time to get it together and thanks god, the east sucks.

DULLAH_WORLD_PEACE
DULLAH_WORLD_PEACE

So you REALLY gonna D1CKRIDE like that huh? There was absolutely NO REASON to repost this on the SAME thread...

#killyoself

Props to SANDRO tho...

tommy2b
tommy2b

@knickster Knicks and Nets are still the teams to beat in the Atlantic right now.  We just need a new coach.

Brostoevsky
Brostoevsky

Woody has no discipline, or clue for that matter. He has no answers and clearly no ability to make adjustments. This team is lost... It's time for ownership to step in and (for a change) do the right thing. Woody must go... The season might not be salvageable, but some of our younger impressionable players might be

tommy2b
tommy2b

@moneyball Probably the most ridiculous post ever.  The oceans verifiably exist and it can be demonstrated that if you fall in one (without swimming and without a lifejacket) you will drown.  

1harris1
1harris1

@BiggieSmalls  Question: Dating back to last year, have we won one game in these orange jerseys?

1harris1
1harris1

@BiggieSmalls Today's performance was entirely unacceptable.  It's the job of the coach to have his team ready to play.  They  weren't.  When you're 5-13, every game should be deemed important.  Today's game was a complete disgrace.


One needn't be a "hater" to be beyond disgusted with this team right now.

Tikki
Tikki

@BiggieSmalls It's not just this loss, but moreso the 14 losses (in a historically awful Eastern Conference) that has people talking about potential coaching changes.


But yes, we know that Woody's job is likely not in danger.  However that job security has nothing to do with merit, timing, or situation - just Dolan and CAA.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@BiggieSmalls So the difference in winning by 30 and losing by 40 is the color of the jersey they wore? Talk about clueless! And if Woody isn't in danger things are even worse than they appear with this organization and that's saying something.

Brian Webster
Brian Webster

@Tikki So what's he saying that's them giving a good effort? Doesn't he realize that's so much worse if they all gave it their absolute best and lost by 40 at home to a division rival that isn't even that good?

rgm891
rgm891

@Tikki Haha Wow. Higher than a Kite. Long string on that kite.

zebeto
zebeto

bad game from everyone ......particularly shump and Felton ....getting outrebounded by 20 by boston ? and letting PG bradley get 10 rebounds is kindda strange.

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

@DolanitisDr Yes sir, to me a leader inspires people. Dont get me wrong, he is a top player, perhaps one of the top ten players in the league but what separates him from being great is that ability to lead, not just on the stat sheet but on the floor, in the locker room, and in the hearts and minds of his team mates. 

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

Thankfully I'm not over there right now, home for Christmas. Wont be back to NYC til February.

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

So im a fraud because I support the Knicks and the Giants having been to both teams games?.. Thanks for your clearly thought out insight. Also, I didnt say I was from london, I said england, I live north east England, near Newcastle.. You cant see the wood for the trees with your knicks tinted glasses on. Saying that I doubt you can see much with your nose wedged up Woodsons backside.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@OLD_KNICK @tommy2b ... uhh... non-anonymous downvotes/dislikes aren't allowed either?  Sorry am I missing something?

1harris1
1harris1

@Sandro Guedes But it is kind of arrogant to keep on wearing the orange jersey when you're 5-13, and you come off of a blowout victory at home wearing traditional colors.  It obviously has no bearing on the outcome of a game, but why change?  Show some respect for karma.

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

@zebeto Yeah, even Brandon Bass looked beastly lol. Brandon Bass man. Brandon Bass ffs!

1harris1
1harris1

@BiggieSmalls I thought we wore them Christmas day last season (unless they are different)?  We lost to the Lakers last year in that game.  Can't remember if we wore orange unis in any other game last year.