Final Score: Knicks 89 Pistons 85

A strong 3rd quarter allowed the Knicks (12-22) to hold off a big Pistons (14-21) run in the 4th to the tune of 89-85.

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The Knicks had a 15 point lead going into the 4th, but the Pistons brought it within 1 with under a minute to go before Melo hit some clutch free throws to seal the game.

Carmelo Anthony had 34 points off 13-for-24 shooting, including 6-for-7 from downtown.

Andrea Bargnani had 13 points and 11 rebounds. Only 4 of those points came after the 1st quarter.

Raymond Felton made a solid return, scoring 12 points and dishing out 6 assists.

Iman Shumpert could not keep up his scoring pace, but delivered a well-rounded game nonetheless: 5 points, 5 assists, 6 rebounds, and 2 steals.

All Knicks starters were a + while all the Knicks reserves were a – in regards to +/-.

For the Pistons, Josh Smith had 21 points and 12 boards. Andre Drummond had 12 points and 17 rebounds.

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This should have been an easy win, but there is no such thing with this Knicks team.

The Knicks starters re-entered the game up by 10 with 7:50 left in the game, and they nearly let the game completely slip away. The team had 5 turnovers leading into the final frame, but they had 8 in the 4th. Luckily, Carmelo Anthony bailed the team out with a clutch offensive rebound and free throws to close out the final seconds.

We all knew the Knicks were going to be out-rebounded going into the game, considering Tyson Chandler was out and that the Pistons lead the league in boards. But the Knicks were -16 in rebounds, including -7 in the fourth quarter which says something about the effort the Knicks were putting out there.

The Knicks bench had only 19 points. JR Smith should have that alone. By the way, did all of you see him try to untie Greg Monroe’s shoe? He was warned by the league and had a talking to about Mike Woodson about him untying Shawn Marion’s laces the other day. I know it’s all fun and games, but he needs to focus on the game more rather than these shenanigans.

The Knicks would have lost this game to most other teams, but they were facing the poor shooting Pistons. A win is a win, I guess. However, they better go back to the way they were playing in Texas if they expect to beat Miami.

Next Game: In a national TV matchup, the Knicks host the Heat on Thursday at 8pm.

105 comments
skoonix
skoonix

Woodsen is like a bad parent in WalMart who just shakes his head and yet does nothing as the kid knocks over displays and merchandise. Id rather have Hardaway Jr getting more minutes than JR Smith - he seems lost and "gone" to me.

David Levine
David Levine

WODSON MUSTGO VERY BAD COACHING HIS PAL J RMUST ALSO GO WORST PLAYER ON TEAM.GIVE HARDAWAY MORE TIME.

ponzies86
ponzies86

Knicks have a bad habit of playing down to the competition and up to it, But a win is a win, Now please stop playing JR 30 minutes a game! THjr is our future and he's shooting good 47% from the field and 49% from 3P

MetsKnicks
MetsKnicks

Durant about to score 50 in a terrible shooting game because of the refs. 14-34 shooting 3-13 from 3....17-19 at the line...bs

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

I just have one comment about tonight's game and it is a musical one for old timers. 2 bonus points to anyone under 30 that has heard this song.


Mister Defeat never hangs around
When he hears this Mighty sound.
"Here I come to save the day"
That means that Mighty Melo is on his way.
Yes sir, when there is a game to win
Mighty Melo will join the fight.
On the road or in MSG land,
He gets the situation well in hand.

http://www.lyricsondemand.com/tvthemes/mightymouselyrics.html

Tikki
Tikki

PSA: Don't feed the trolls.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

Woody love to play that small ball crap!!  Small ball will not allow us to win big in the playoffs.  We are a bad rebounding team when we play small...fact!!  If we can't rebound, then we are a bad defensive team!!


They have 3 bigs in the game...

Smith, Villanova and Drummond was in the game and Woody decides to go small...really, that is bad coaching.  We were losing on the boards and almost lost the game..

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Knicks won and that's more important.  Overall, it was ugly it's and good thing we had that 3rd quarter with Melo leading the way.  


I still see improvement as this was a game we would have found a way to lose a week or so ago.  


lobcity
lobcity

Woodson doesn't even show Melo the love he shows Jr and Felton.


VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

Repost:

Not to defend Felton, but placing things in context:


People are unfair with him. Every fan wants a top tier PG, hell, who wouldn't. But unfortunately, for better or worse, Felton/Prigs/Beno/Murry is all we got.

And basically, he gets killed for not being a top tier PG.

Unfair, if you ask me. And btw, no one was complaining last season.

He's not a top tier PG, not even in the top half of PG's in this league, but he's all we got.

He's been struggling this season, no doubt (and you can't justify that), whether it's by personal struggles or injuries, but we've seen what he can do when he's even on his B game. The overall team offense has struggled. For everything done right, as a team last season, they've struggled this season. Ball movement, movement off the ball, extra pass, dribble penentration, 3 ball %, P&R. In every aspect this team has declined if you compare this team's offense to last season.

Felton, as the PG, takes all the blame. But when the spacing is right, when offense is being properly executed by every one on the floor, everyone looks better, including Felton.


Felton gets the hate because people want a top tier PG and compare Felton to one, which is absurd. 

Like I said, all these complaintes weren't around last season.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

Why is Amare playing 4th quarter minutes at center with a small line up...The Woody who coached tonight needs to go!!  Bring back the Woody we had on the west coast trip ASAP!!  This small ball crap is killing us on the boards.  Amare is the worse rebounding big in the NBA...he has no clue how to box someone out!!  Where was Barg????


I know Felton is just coming back, but Beno was running the team pretty well on offense...where was he in the 2nd half??


Mike Breen is more negative on the Knicks than every other NBA team broadcaster...fact!!

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@ponzies86 THjr is not getting more minutes, because his defense is worse than JR's. 

lindro88
lindro88

It's impossible to play big against Detroits frontcourt w/o Chandler. Even with him it's hard. We have Bigs that can't play heavy minutes or can't rebound.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

Woody coached so well in Texas and then come back with this...Thank God we won.

Chris
Chris

@BiggieSmalls You are Woody or know nothing about coaching. You have the gaul to say that Felton and JR belonged on the court that long? You are just clueless

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

@BiggieSmallsI am not a "so called fan". I live and die with my Knicks, Mets, and Jets. I was a huge Woodson fan until this year. Actually, it started in the playoffs last year, when Woodson allowed JR's nonsense to sabatoge our playoff run. We should have beaten Indy in the 2nd round last year and went on to a great series with the Heat, who we matched up very well with. This year, Woodson has just been awful. He continues to put his faith in JR and failed to get this team to play with energy on D until about a week ago.

Chris
Chris

@lobcity DAW is a fraud, he has faked his way through this entire gig with  the Knicks. This team will never win a chip with this guy at the helm. He is dumb

Chris
Chris

@VerySilentJay No Felton gets killed for many reasons. He is out of shape. he is Woody`s pet along with JR, he doesn`t play defense and he has a low basketball IQ. The other 3 pgs have a good basketball IQ, two of the other 3 are in shape, and all three of the the other guards move the ball better. He gets dogged because he really doesn`t deserve to be on the court, which leads to the coach

smiggybalz
smiggybalz

Felton is one of the worse starting point guards in the entire NBA.The Knicks are a better team when he is out

Tikki
Tikki

@VerySilentJay  

I think it's less about obtaining a top-tier PG (though we'd all love to have one), and more about obtaining a reliable one.  You just never know what kind of game you're going to get from Ray.  And despite Ray's position in the bottom-third (at best) of NBA starting PGs, Woodson certainly gives Ray the same leash as a top-tier PG(in addition to guaranteeing him a starting job prior to the season's commencement)

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@VerySilentJay Felton at $4 mill is a very good PG.  We cannot afford a better PG while wasting our cap on Amare. 


For me Felton is just coming back and wasn't effective in the 4th quarter...a smart coach would sit him and bring in Beno (I guess Woody couldn't because Beno was hurt).  Then he should have just went big with JR and Shump in the backcourt plus Barg, Melo and KMart.  That would give us a better chance to rebound.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

@zdiddy4nykBargnani should have been out there in the 4th. No question about it. JR was out there the entire 4th quarter and did absolutely nothing. We were getting killed on our defensive boards and Bargnani, who had been rebounding very well all night, sat on the bench. SMFH.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@zdiddy4nyk What's there to be positive about when they're playing ball like they did tonight?

Tikki
Tikki

@zdiddy4nyk Beno apparently hurt his left knee; he will receive MRI tomorrow.

barnaby87
barnaby87

@zdiddy4nyk Do you blame Breen?  The knicks have stretches every game where they play like garbage.

Chris
Chris

@zdiddy4nyk @ponzies86 Wrong watch  JR off the ball he is sleepwalking, I thought he was betting on the game last night and intentionally trying to throw it. That is bad he looked. Woody is killing our young players, Hardaway, Murry, and Tyler. 

ponzies86
ponzies86

@zdiddy4nyk @ponzies86 But his offense is heads and shoulders better then JR, So what exactly do you want? JR lazy defense and horrible offense or THjr offense and bad defense?

Chris
Chris

@zdiddy4nyk He didn`t coach well, we played well. He was forced to play Beno and Murry, and they are both better then Felton and JR. We had 60 minutes of 2 horrible players on the court. It is a miracle we won. Thank you Melo and KMart

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

@Jerry Gee 

It happens...  It was a bad game overall minus that 3rd quarter.  We missed Tyson tonight I think.  Speaking of which, we won these last two games without him and that's a good sign.  

Tikki
Tikki

@OLD_KNICK @Jerry Gee 

"A leopard NEVER changes its stripes."

Spots, Old Knick, spots . . . lol.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Tikki @VerySilentJay Like I said, he has struggled tremendosuly this season. But in context, so has the entire team.

If you watch closely, you'll see sub par execution, poor spacing, too much dribbling, and too many forced shots. That's nothing like the offense Felton ran last season (which no one complained about btw).

Offensively, as a unit, the team hasn't looked great all season long. They've had good stretches, but too many ups and downs.

There's a reason why your team underperforms in evert aspect offensively, and that's not only on the PG.

Because if is, then Felton's a genius for running such an efficient offense last season.

Chris
Chris

@kenmetskni @zdiddy4nyk CAA, and he and Ray are his `boys`. Guy has a very low IQ (DAW)

Chris
Chris

@barnaby87 @zdiddy4nyk You are the home town guy, you don`t look for negs, he thinks he is the color guy, not the play by play guy. He does too much of what Clyde is paid for. Clyde was a great NBA player, not so much for Breen

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@barnaby87@zdiddy4nyk I watch every team on NBA league pass.  Mike Breen is the most negative home team broadcaster in the entire NBA...fact!!

Chris
Chris

@Elvis Maduro @ponzies86 @zdiddy4nyk No PT, no rhythm.  Quick hook, no confidence , add Murry to that list. DAW is looking for the first mistake to yank those guys, but lets his boys Felton and JR do whatever, they just get a stare

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@OLD_KNICK@zdiddy4nyk@VerySilentJay

It would be very difficult to get a better PG at $4 mill than Felton.  I am so mad Amare's contract is on this team. 

This is why, I can never ignore Amare's negative effect on why we have certain players on this team.

Jaime
Jaime

@VerySilentJay@OLD_KNICK@zdiddy4nyk 

ehhh..you said it yourself.  His value was at an all-time low.  There was no reason to give him a 3 year deal.  I'm still puzzled about that one.  

btw, we should have signed Nate the Great during FA.  We could have used him.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@OLD_KNICK @zdiddy4nyk @VerySilentJay His value was at an all time low when he signed for us. He also wanted to come to NY, which is not the case for many players.

The dude is a pitbull. Will play through injury, isn't scared to make shots, will give it all despite limitations, and will leave everything out there on the floor. That's old school Knick mentality right there.

His contract is as friendly as it gets as well.

Yet he gets no love because he's not a top tier PG.

The same way Melo gets no love because he's no LBJ.

Chris
Chris

@billysuede @zdiddy4nyk @buddhabing We are not getting paid to broadcast the games, this is a blog to discuss what you feel, he is getting played for play by play, what we get from theis AH are his feelings about what he envisions should happen, not what is happening. Like that is a forced shot when there are 4 or less seconds on the shot clock. What is the guy supposed to do, not shoot and lose the ball?  

billysuede
billysuede

@zdiddy4nyk @buddhabing how's breen any different than the people who post on tkb most of the time. he's a reflection of most of the negative type here. 

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@buddhabing@zdiddy4nyk Positivity breeds more positivity.  Breen seems like he wants us to lose so he can criticize our team.  I actual prefer to listen to the opposing team guys, who are more fair about the Knicks than Breen!!

buddhabing
buddhabing

@zdiddy4nyk @buddhabing I prefer an announcer who is critical when warranted as opposed to a lot of these announcers around the league who are unabashed homers. I don't mind Breen at all but can see where he would annoy people who are not fans of that style.