Final: Thunder 112, Knicks 100

The Knicks fell to the Thunder, 112-100, Sunday afternoon in Oklahoma City.

The Least You Should Know

With the win, Oklahoma City swept the season series against the Knicks. The Thunder also beat the Knicks on Christmas Day.

The Knicks have lost the season series with the Thunder every year since the 2005-06 season.

Kevin Durant nearly notched a triple-double, scoring 41 points, hauling in 10 rebounds and dishing out nine assists.

Raymond Felton and Amare’ Stoudemire shared the team lead in scoring with 16 points.

Sam Spiegelman

The Knicks’ inconsistent play continued Sunday afternoon, falling again to the Oklahoma City Thunder, 112-100, losing the season series for the eight straight year.

Despite leading by only five at the half, Kevin Durant and the Thunder (41-12) offense proved to be too much for the Knicks (20-31) to keep pace with and eventually ran away with it in the final quarter. After reports surfaced Friday that coach Mike Woodson’s job was in jeopardy, losing the 31st game of the year — more than the team lost all of last season — may be the final straw.

Durant’s MVP-caliber season continued as he nearly notched a triple-double, scoring a game-high 41 points and grabbing 10 rebounds, as well as nine assists. Starting in place of the injured Russell Westbrook, Reggie Jackson had 19 points, while Sergie Ibaka added 16.

The Knicks were led by Amare’ Stoudemire and Raymond Felton, who both scored 16 points. Carmelo Anthony, who did not play in the team’s last contest against the Thunder during their Christmas Day loss, had 15 points. Iman Shumpert and Tyson Chandler each added 12 points, while J.R. Smith and Tim Hardaway Jr. — who have been integral contributors off the bench during Knicks victories — combined for 12 points on 5-of-16 shooting.

Anthony is now 10-3 all time in head-to-head matchups with Durant.


Next Game: The Knicks host the Sacramento Kings on Wednesday at 7:30 p.m.

273 comments
David Ortiz
David Ortiz

Woody is part of the malignant disease that is hurting this team. Chandler, Bargs, Felton , Shump, should be traded but in the meanwhile, they sit. Stat is the best option @ the 5. Play the kids. At least they play with passion and energy..

tifoso6
tifoso6

Each morning I read the Knick's news and wonder why is Woodson still the coach.   The box score was very interesting.  Tyler in 11 minutes had 10 points on 4-8 shooting and 5 rebounds.  Chander in 27 minutes had 12 points and 7 rebounds.  Trade Chandler for a first round unrestricted draft choice and play Tyler, Stat and

Aldrich.   

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

After seeing that lac/phi score; Melo's options just got reduced.

I had read that the LAL were not that high on him to begin with, but now I wonder why the clippers would even want him. He actually would mess up their offensive system. On top of that, there is no way in the world they would trade us Blake at thid point. He has matured and blown up. Now CP3 knows this and will feed him constantly and he's young.

bigdishing
bigdishing

Cheeks out in Detroit, and they're ahead of us in the standings and had lower expectations. Is he that bad a coach? I always liked that guy ever since he saved that girl who failed with the national anthem. 

Woodson woulda just crossed his arms and gave her the look. 

bigdishing
bigdishing

Cheeks out in Detroit, and they're ahead of us in the standings and had lower expectations. Is he that bad a coach? I always liked that guy ever since he saved that girl who failed with the national anthem. 


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q4880PJnO2E


Woodson woulda just crossed his arms and gave her the look. 

rgm891
rgm891

If the Knicks want to win with Melo.  It's plain and simple on how to approach this scenario.  I know it's going to be hard and tough to pull out some deals but they're manageable and not so unrealistic.  Get a pg such as bledsoe, get omir asik.  A stretch four.  The rest fill with 3 point shooters.  Obviously other positions will need to be address.  But that will make the knicks contenders with melo.  Obviously we need a great coach for him to get the best out of his players.  Dolan read this and go to war.  

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Basketball 101.

Thunder A

Knicks F

Energy and strong defensive rotations.

Screens, ball movement, on offense. No trouble telling the difference between an elite team and a 10th seed.

1harris1
1harris1

Clippers up on the 76ers midway through the third quarter, 89-33.  Goodness!

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Cheeks gets fired even after pistons won their last 2, Knicks win their next 2 Woody gets a 3 year extension.. Smh

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

Clips up 62-21 on the Sixers with 5 mins to go in the half...Griffin has taken it to another level this season - not just a dunker TKB!

rgm891
rgm891

My friend texted me before telling me there was a timeout where herb was giving out instructions and woodson was outside of the huddle looking pissed off? Any truth to this?

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

Hey, are any of you folks getting a blank page for ultimateknicks.com? It has been that way all day for me.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

For all the talk of OKC getting "lucky" in the draft with 3 high picks, they looked really good with just one, Durant, and a bunch of guys picked late in the first round. Sam Presti is a guy that Dolan should offer a max contract.

kneggyknik
kneggyknik

@tifoso6 If the pick and roll isnt there, tyson won't get his.  He really has no other offensive game.  It's shameful that this team has went away from everything that worked last year.  That reeks of a clueless coach.  Dolans loyalty to woodson proves that he doesnt want a championship.

Sandro
Sandro

@orlando_knickfan

Just one week ago, TKB was flooded with "Blake is overrated as fvck" comments.

They even said they didn't want Blake for Carmelo LOL.

Sometimes this place really amazes me.

Sandro
Sandro

@Jerry Gee

LOL just yesterday people here were debating with me that Rondo wasn't worth of including Junior in a trade for him SMH

Sandro
Sandro

@rgm891

Not enough money available. If the Knicks re-sign Melo, they can only afford to sign either Bledsoe or Asik.

Unless you believe the Rockets or the Suns would trade them for Amare, Bargnani or Chandler...

C0P0
C0P0

@1harris1  Didn't The Knicks lose to both? Don't feel like checking. LOL

bigdishing
bigdishing

@1harris1  Rivers might get that team really clicking. I say wcf at least. 

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Woody really seems clueless most of the time. He just watches, while his team half asses it out there. If guys aren't going to give energy on D, you have to BENCH them. How many wide open lanes did the Thunder drive through? How many wide open 3s did we give up to their good shooters?

A close game is starting to get away in the 3rd quarter. Melo is jacking up contested 3s every time he touches the balls. The Thunder are getting ANYTHING they want on offense. No time out. No substitutions. Woodson just allows the lead to double. In the 4th quarter we cut it to 6, he allows the Thunder to get it up to 15 before calling time out. I am not quite sure Woodson even wants this job any more.

saintknick
saintknick

@Hope4TheBest  His pass-game and defense have improved markedly. He might live up to the hype if either that jumper or that D get to a solid level.

Sandro
Sandro

@kneggyknik @tifoso6

Considering this season so far, I believe the Knicks have 3 players on the Top 10 of most overpaid players in the NBA. That is the real shame.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Sandro @orlando_knickfan  

TKB was saying that the Knicks would need a 1st-rounder if they traded Carmelo for Blake, lol...the Clips wouldn't even do a straight-up swap at this point!

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

I don't know about that. Rondi rejected an extension and Ainge is probably trying to drive up his value.

jeandd323
jeandd323

@kenmetskni  He substituted the players who were giving energy and grit to cut the lead. I stopped watching when Felton and Chandler got back into the game. I knew the outcome.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

I didn't see it, but it doesn't surprise me. I haven't noticed Woodson doing much coaching at all this season. It is sad to watch.

smiggybalz
smiggybalz

almost everyone chose Oden thatyear

Sandro
Sandro

@Hope4TheBest @Sandro@orlando_knickfan

I don't think the Clippers would do a Carmelo AND a first rounder for Blake, to be honest.

Blake is playing like the best PF out there, he's the youngest and, most importantly of all, he's not commanding 130 mil.

Sandro
Sandro

@Jerry Gee

If Rondo becomes available, everyone but Melo should be available if Boston asks.

Not that I'm a fan of keeping Melo at all costs, but as I know that Dolan won't do what's necessary and trade him, we are on the verge of losing the guy for nothing.

Getting Rondo, prevents that. And Rondo is ten times the player Junior is, as much as I like him.

Good luck trying to convince Melo to stay and play with Chalmers lol

rico
rico

If steve mills has LOT of work to do...,so far no signs of life.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Hope4TheBest @knickster@Knicks_Fanatic 

No, that one was one Dolan and Mills. Grunwald was fired before training camp and  Tyler was cut in late October. I do believe they had a "understanding" that they would sign him once he was healthy. Tyler did get a three year deal.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@Hope4TheBest I'll take Melo Curry. Gotta space the floor for Melo and Curry does that while also being able to orchestrate and score in other ways.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@bockers @Knicks_Fanatic @VerySilentJay @Seth Nadler  That's why Rondo's the better fit. With a proper coach imagine the amount of good looks Rondo will get him.

With all the attention Melo gets, once they play the 2 man game, Rondo can attack and finish himself or find a wide open 3 pt attempt.

Also, Rond's high bball IQ allows to understand when to reset, when to attack, and which play to execute according to the circumstances, something Woodson doesn't know.

Perhaps most importantly. a guy of Rondo's IQ won't allow the offense to get stagnant or to fall back to isolation ball.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Knicks_Fanatic @VerySilentJay @Seth Nadler That is misleading....his accuracy doesn't take into account the over half his shots are driving to the hoop getting high percentage shots.  From the outside?  Rondo is average...hence the "rondo cant shoot" theory...pretty simple.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@knicks50 @Hope4TheBest  

Agreed; also Carmelo screening for Rondo would be a really good look, but the Curry-Carmelo side pick-and-pop would be unguardable...on offense, I think Curry-Carmelo would be better...but Rondo is a better defender.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@VerySilentJay @Knicks_Fanatic @Hope4TheBest @Seth Nadler  

Which duo do you think would be better (in fantasy land):

Melo-Rondo 

or

Melo-Curry

buddhabing
buddhabing

Don't think Curry is better all aroung pg han Rondo. All he does better is shoot 3s & free throws. Rondo has him on assts, rebs, shooting % & defense.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Hope4TheBest @Knicks_Fanatic@VerySilentJay@Seth Nadler 

Obviously, Curry is far more than a shooter. He has an all around game, is a number 1 option, and is a better overall PG than Rondo.I'm just talking about people that value "shooters" over guys that can score in other ways besides a pretty jumper. Curry is a superstar.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Knicks_Fanatic @Hope4TheBest @VerySilentJay @Seth Nadler  

Not really...3-pters are valuable too.Steph Curry shoots 46% from the field, lower than Rondo, and  I don't think Rondo's higher shooting % means he has a higher IQ over Curry...other qualities might, but not necessarily the shooting %.


Rondo's lack of perimeter shooting ability is a legit complaint, but he has so many other positives that they outweigh that one negative.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Knicks_Fanatic @VerySilentJay @Seth Nadler  

Check the shooting charts though...do you think Dwight Howard is a good "shooter" too?  He's shooting 58% from the field and 40% from 3 (2-5).

Rondo's still a star baller...Jason Kidd didn't have much of a shot his early years and he elevated every team he ever laced up for...