Fire Mike Woodson already!

Harris Decker

The Knicks are making me sick. Since the day Phil Jackson was hired, the writing has been on the wall in permanent ink. Mike Woodson’s days in New York are numbered and the Knicks need to make the cut now!

Mike WoodsonIt was torture to watch Woodson squirm over the past few months. He did a valiant job trying to make a run at a playoff spot but came up a few games short. Woodson deserves to be fired but I can’t imagine why it’s taking so long. There is no reason to prolong the inevitable.

Thursday morning, during the exit interviews, Woodson was nowhere to be found. According to ESPN New York’s Ian Begley, Amar’e Stoudemire said that he spoke with Steve Mills and Phil Jackson during the exit interviews and that he didn’t see Woodson at the facility. The only way I could see Woodson still being a member of the Knicks is if the team were planning to retain his services next year. I just don’t see that being the case.

While it wasn’t apparent early in the season, it was easy to see Woodson losing the locker room as the season neared it’s final days. Once again, Stoudemire didn’t hide his emotions. He told SI that, “There were times when we didn’t quite buy into it and as a result of that, we lost games.” For a star player to say that the team wasn’t “buying in” says a lot about the coach. Woodson has to go.

I’ll wonder why he wasn’t fired last night, this morning or even right as we speak for weeks. It doesn’t make sense for him to be here a minute more than is absolutely necessary and now there are no games left on the schedule, it is no longer necessary. Jackson and Mills need to take care of business and put a bow on Woodson career in New York.




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glider1965
glider1965

Hopefully Jackson either (a) convinces Melo that he needs to sit tight and endure a season of mediocrity while Knicks let bad contracts expire by their terms to free up money for 2015 or (b) lets Melo walks and starts from scratch.  I hope to all that is holy in the basketball heavens that the Knicks don't go "half-in" and try to get creative in order to be first-round playoff competitive in 2014.  IMO, it would be a risky, likely-to-lose move to sacrifice salary cap space by seeking out half measure moves for the upcoming season.  That's what the Knicks have been doing for more than a decade now.

knickster
knickster

Woodson will not get another job as coach of an NBA team. He is as incompetent as they come. His popularity with veteran players is understandable because he lets them do whatever they want...

rgm891
rgm891

Bring in Kerr babyyyyyyy

jsnooka
jsnooka

I truly like woody. Everything thing from the stare downs he gives his players to the just for men goatee. It's his coaching which is bothersome. Everything else is gravy. I'm sure there will be life for woodson once the Knicks give him the pink slip

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

From NY Post:

Kerr "absolutely expects" Knicks coaching offer. "And if he's offered the job he's definitely going to do it" the source told the Post.

Dullah Dakidd
Dullah Dakidd

A lot of NEW 'negative' people here...

#hihaters #whoopenedupthefloodgates

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

According to NYPOST, Kerr expects to not only be offered Knicks job, but excited to take it and is already working with TNT on his broadcasting playoff schedule around his commitment to be the new Knicks coach.

Phil Jackson’s first real imprint on the Knicks organization will come when he names a new head coach or stuns the basketball world by retaining Mike Woodson. Among those waiting on the news is Steve Kerr, the former player and general manager turned broadcaster for TNT.

According to a source close to the situation, Kerr “absolutely expects” to be offered the job. “And if he’s offered the job he’s definitely going to do it,” the source told The Post.

darealeric
darealeric

Step 1 FIRE WOODSON

Step 2 throw JR in the trash

Step 3 trade Chandler

THESE SHOULD BE THE OFFSEASON PRIORITIES. Anyone who still thinks JR Spliff should still be on this team is an absolute bonafide MORON. Its obvious that all of Amare's statements about selfish childish players, refer to JR.

haven
haven

Please fire Woodson, i have so many reason why i could literally fill up the page. At this point hes just being selfish. But he should not be head coach. If anything, make him an assistant under Kerr (even tho that might hurt his reputation even more) hes sitting there pleading his heart out like its personal or something. Melo is extremely talented but hes not the smartest, so you cant have a coach who lets Melo do whatever he wants because their scared they'll get fired like D'Antoni if they displease Melo. 

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

My problem with Woodson is he should've fired his Coaching Staff early on even Herb Williams for some young blood who knows todays NBA

to help him adjust

he stayed loyal to his staff and now he is on his way out while Herb probably will still remain on the bench 

no reason why he shouldn't of hired John Starks or Anthony Mason as an Assistant? 

his stubbornness got him in this predicament 

PEACE OUT WOODROW


JayfromtheFix
JayfromtheFix

Im of the belief that Woodson needs to be fired this offseason, i also believe PJ hands are tied this offseason other than possibly resigning Melo and bringing in a pg like Collison.


But Phil can get radical and say i wanna win now screw the future ( i dont recommend this) he can look at the teams looking to make a shakeup under new management. As of right now Detroit is the main team that fits that criteria. With that said would anyone do the following:


TC and AB for Josh Smith, Brandon Jennings and Jerebko


I would honestly like a first round pick also to do this trade. We will be giving them  almost 100 mil in salary cap relief over 4 years, they will be getting decent NBA talent on expiring deals one a NBA defensive player of the year. I know they have Drummonds but this trade will be for the expiring and getting out from under Josh Smith contract. 


For the Knicks its a quick way to possibly jump back into the playoff talk. If we looked at the games where Felton plays well the knicks are damn near unbeatable; this goes to show with a good pg the knicks will be a good team. Josh can be a beast if he has the right coach and team mates around him in the locker room that can keel him level headed and not think he is the star. As a second fiddle he is great, not so much as the star. 


The bad for the knicks is we would have STAT and Cole playing C and we would have to kiss goodbye to 2015 plan and all the potential all stars in the plan.


Lineup:


PG Jennings

SG JR

SF Melo

PF Smith

C Amare


Bench:

Felton Prigs Shump THJR Cole Tyler

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

Woodson should not be coaching in the NBA. He's slow---literally. His brain cells have been damaged by booze and/or pot. His eyes are jaundiced which shows some kind of substance overuse.

Fire Baldy Now!

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

I will be shocked if Woody is not gone by noon!

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

Based on team performance rather than reputation, Mike Woodson needs a defensive coordinator far more than an offensive one.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

CARMELO ANTHONY ON WOODY. THE FULL QUOTE

“To be honest with you, Mike Woodson and me have become, he’s been a guy that I can talk to, almost a father figure, a friend, a guy that I can bounce stuff off,” an emotional Anthony said on Thursday. “I’ve been a guy he’s talked to multiple times, about multiple things in different situations. So when that time comes, if it’s ready for me to step up and take that next step and say, ‘OK, Mike Woodson needs to stay or go . . .’ I don’t think it would come down to that, but I would back him.

“If he needs my recommendation whether it’s here or anywhere else, I’ll back him. I have nothing bad to say about Mike Woodson. I support him. For me as a player, I had some of my best years under Mike Woodson. So I would never have anything bad to say about Mike Woodson.”

Seth Plaut
Seth Plaut

Sounds like tomorrow is the day according to Isola's article.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@OLDKNICK Chandler sure sounds a lot smarter than Melo ad STATues for sure. 

lindro88
lindro88

Woodson did a terrible job. It wasn't all his fault, but he needs to go.

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@jsnooka  It may be shallow but I want a handsome coach. Someone who can actually coach and represents NY in the hot male kinda way. There's NOTHING handsome about Woody. If he could coach I really wouldn't care how he looked but he has a double whammy. LOL

How could you like him?

jsnooka
jsnooka

lol same people New log in names

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@thatsagoodpoint  I've been frothy the whole season and will continue to be 'til he's gone, out, kaput, dismissed, let go, given the ole pink slip, sent packin, in a word--fired.

jsnooka
jsnooka

the he'll with Kerr. Lets bring in Bill Laimbeir as coach and Rick mahorn as his assistant

glider1965
glider1965

@darealeric  Unless steps 2 and 3 have something to do with getting a competent player to replace Felton, then I would amend your to do list to insert a new step 1(a) -- get rid of Felton at all costs.  For me he is the root of most of the Knicks issues this season.  Other than an occasional pick and roll, he sets up no one.  And most Knick defensive breakdowns start with Felton as he unable to stay with is man or get through a pick.  Be gone Ray Ray, be gone.

jsnooka
jsnooka

I agree with everything but would like to correct step 2. Throw start of the season JR in the trash also add garbagani to the list

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Interesting out of the box plan. You'd need a players coach like Woodson to get the most out of josh smith. Woody had josh smith in ATL..

I like jerebko too.

jsnooka
jsnooka

Forget the last comment Thjr duh lol

jsnooka
jsnooka

U forgot one where is Timmy Jr in this equation?

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Lol.. Come on now. Little weed never hurt no one,

jeandd323
jeandd323

@BigChiefTriangle  Woodson inherited speed-ball from D'antoni and he never really quite understood it. The Knicks resorted to isolation plays with Melo and Amare being supreme ball movement black holes which impede any offensive fluidity from the team. More often than, the other players stand around watching while Melo or Amare do their things. 


Our defense was  putrid with journey men after journey men lightening us up for career stats. Somehow, Woodson and his coaching staff never figured out a way to stop the bleeding. While tragic at first, it became borderline comical when the likes of Fredette, J Mack were  posting Michael Jordan like numbers against us.


I consistently asked for the head of Woodson after his inane performance last year against the Pacers. We know our coach is bad, when Vogel openly called his schemes less than intelligent.


I have been perusing  the major sources of information for news of the scouring of Woodson. We need to extricate these incompetent fool from  our Knicks and hire someone who can take the team to new heights! 


Go Knicks!

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

He needs both which makes him a good assistant coach!

Lee Lewin
Lee Lewin

@BigChiefTriangle  well except when there are matchup problems and he continually fails to make adjustments, sure, why not, keep  him around because offense was good for 1/2 the season.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Biggie.

Woodson has this effect with players though. I've always said Woodson should be a Player development coach bc he knows how to bond with players, However he should stay away from head coaching until he learns not to be so stubborn adapt & adjust. Become more creative and open to new ideas to be better. He is stuck too much in his playing days and time has moved on. I do not want to see him back and Melo liking him won't be enough to keep him.

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@OLDKNICK @moneyball  He was getting paid the big bucks to figure out what kind of personnel he was working with and adjust accordingly. He's not an intelligent man. We need smarts and ballz at MSG.

rgm891
rgm891

I don't know how you have patience. We had to deal with woodson for a whole season. But the time is coming

glider1965
glider1965

@kingkiyan  True.  But at least he has heart and dedication.  He worked his a@@ off to over come three bad injuries in his career -- two with the Knicks.  Hard to hate players with heart.  Hard to like players without it -- looking at you Felton and Chandler (2013-14 version).

JayfromtheFix
JayfromtheFix

@BiggieTKB  I understand where you are coming from with the Woody like coach to get the most out of Smith ( both) but I'm done with Woody. Too much miscues this season and some last season. I want a coach thats high profile enough where the players respect him and has a good offensive AND defensive system not iso ball or raining three ball. I want a coach that will tweak his system to fit his players strength.

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@BiggieTKB  Yeah. A little weed for some (not me I don't choose to indulge). Not so much that it turns your eyes an ugly yellow hue.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@lobcity  

He might bond with the players well, but player development coach?  What supporting cast member has actually "developed" under Woodson?  Felton? Shumpert? People like to bring up JR as an example - but his game really has not changed much - similar scoring efficiency, similar FTAs, just more touches/minutes.  

Woody does not strike me as a teacher of the game.

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

He knows Woody is gone, he can say that and should if that's how he feels! Woody should be allowed to get another job! Just not on our dime and time!

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Isola the S@&t stirrer is speculating

It's on the DN site... No direct info

JCOHEN68
JCOHEN68

@knicksgirl35 @OLDKNICK@moneyball Bringing in Bargs doomed this franchise worse than the Eddy Curry deal. The Front office was stupid, not Woody.


In the immortal words of another dumb person, "You don't goto war with the army you want, you go to war with the army you have" or something like. Woody had a system that worked last year, unfortunately they lost personnel, got bad personnel, and players so-called under-achieved or did they? The Knicks set the world on fire from 3pt land last year. Even Barkley said that level was unsustained and guess what they didn't sustain it.


There is a great coach out there right now, who won 50+ games one year and was in the lottery the next, got the #1 pick too and has never looked back. Too bad the Knicks can't do that, we gave our pick away for FREAKING BARGS!!!


You want to blame someone other than the players, blame them!

rgm891
rgm891

That's so true man. I learned something today!!!

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@thatsagoodpoint @knicksgirl35  As long as you don't wear gators. LOL!