Game 20: Knicks vs. Cavaliers

Screen Shot 2013-12-09 at 10.54.59 PMTonight at 7 p.m., the New York Knicks take on the Cleveland Cavaliers at Quicken Loans Arena.

After reeling off back-to-back wins against the Brooklyn Nets and Orlando Magic, the Knicks (5-14) suffered one of the most lopsided losses in franchise history to the Boston Celtics.

The Cavaliers (7-13) lost all three contests to the Knicks last season, which was the first time since the 1993-94 season. But Cleveland has won three of its last four games against the likes of the Los Angeles Clippers, Denver Nuggets and Chicago Bulls. All three of those victories came at home, too.

This season both teams are posting similar numbers. The Knicks averaged two more points per game (94 ppg) and the Cavs allow about two more points (100 ppg).

Projected starters (NY): Raymond Felton, Iman Shumpert, Kenyon Martin., Carmelo Anthony, Andrea Bargnani

Projected starters (CLE): Kyrie Irving, C.J. Miles, Tristan Thompson, Alonzo Gee, Andrew Bynum

Notes:  Martin (ankle) will be a game-time decision, and if he cannot go  Metta World Peace will start in his place.

Update:  Martin is out; Metta is in.

590 comments
darealeric
darealeric

What does Amare have to say about his night? one word Lol, "phenomenal"

darealeric
darealeric

It's quite pathetic that this team's gameplan (or lack there of), performance, heart, professionalism, credibility and desire to win, is questioned on a nightly basis. These are amateurs folks NOT professionals.

darealeric
darealeric

I actually enjoyed watching Jamal Crawford toss alley oop lobs to Eddy Curry. We sucked we knew it and it was more exciting to watch than this disgrace.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

People talking about trading Melo and shizz. That is the stupidest shizz... Then what? You wait ten more years to rebuild. 7-10 years of bullshizz. Some of you guys really know nothing about the game. I'm out. Peace!

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

I honestly can't believe this is happening and nothing---nothing is being done about it.

darealeric
darealeric

In Woody, Dolan and some on TKB's (Biggie, JimmyBX, etc.) convoluted minds, tonight was proof that Amare and Melo can actually work in bringing us a title....

ds2488
ds2488

Woody throwing a player under the bus again...what a shock. 

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

Woody is such a dumbazz.

fungch1218
fungch1218

Don't think any team wants Melo. 

If they want him, they can wait until he becomes FA.


Trading Shump or Tyson is easier

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Wally hit the nail on the head in the postgame. For how well Carmelo played, him being a -18 shows he is not getting any help out there.

darealeric
darealeric

Everyone can just stop with the silly trade JR scenarios. We all know he was a steal at the price were paying him, right? after knee surgery, after ZERO other teams bid for his services...

frankieboy
frankieboy

We can talk all night long.... We all know what has to be done . 


DOLAN ...your move !


Good night guys 

knickster
knickster

Time to trade Melo - he will leave at the end of the season and then we get zero return!

ds2488
ds2488

Even the postgame crew is questioning why Shump wasn't on Irving.  This coach is the worst.  

fungch1218
fungch1218

Tanking without 1st round pick is a disaster.

Mike Jones
Mike Jones

lets trade this team for Utah Jazz

knickster
knickster

Biggie says he accidentally wrote 20 games, but he meant 60!

Should we give him a break?

bigdishing
bigdishing

I like Woodson, but he's lost the team. These consistently bad performances are more than just ball movement, etc. 

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

You trade melo for a pick ANYWHERE in this draft.  Tank next year and try to get some FA's in 2015.


I may give Shump one more year because he's cheap.


Try and trade JR and Felton next year.

rgm891
rgm891

This is one huge nightmare. I have no idea what to say. 5-15.

tommy2b
tommy2b

14 mins 2-6FG, 0-1 3FG, 2-4FT, 1ast, 4TO ... against the Knicks defense.  Shump is no star but Dion Waiters is not going to help us.

a_dilla
a_dilla

@darealeric

LMAO....It might have had a chance to work about 7 years ago when Amare was still healthy. His signing and the amnesty of billups have been a disaster.

darealeric
darealeric

@NYKnickerBocker Yup, good ole Wally towing the company line. It's almost as if he is getting fed Dolan's talking points directly into his ear piece

bigdishing
bigdishing

@fungch1218 If we somehow had next year's pick, I'd be OK with forfeiting the season at this point. This upcoming draft is worth it. 

frankieboy
frankieboy

@OLD_KNICK


True..... but when he leaves and we get zero in return we will have just plain sheet

knickster
knickster

You have become a negative nancy, bitch!

darealeric
darealeric

@a_dilla @darealeric Nah, it wouldn't have worked back then either because you can't win a championship when your best players have no leadership skills, desire to win or ability to be your best defender. So now watch how many of these clowns come out of the woodwork with the one example (Dirk did it).

ds2488
ds2488

@Tikki @ds2488 He basically blamed the loss on Bargs not being able to hit open shots.  

rgm891
rgm891

But he hasn't lost the locker room yet Old Knick????? Haha. Of course I would be.

frankieboy
frankieboy

@VernonZee @orlando_knickfan


Really ? 


You think we are going to keep Melo ? Wake up . We run the risk of losing him by the traded deadline if we don't trade him, especially if we are still a sucky ass team. 


Trading melo gives us good picks and pieces to re build. 

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

You have to get something for him because he's gonna bolt.

a_dilla
a_dilla

@darealeric

The leadership quality is important, not sure about your star needing to be the best defender. However they do need to attempt to play competent defense consistently. 

Dirk is really the only example comparable to Melo. He was an elite scorer as well. That's just one piece though, it does require a great cast around a player like that to win it all. As we're witnessing the knicks cast is far from great.

knickster
knickster

The best thing is to trade himfor picks.

knickster
knickster

Our front office and fans are too stupid to even consider it. They will either let carmelo walk for free or will cripple the team with a max salary for their "superstar"....

DULLAH_WORLD_PEACE
DULLAH_WORLD_PEACE

Nail on the head YOU SUCK! Not Woody Dolan JR or the orange jerseys ITS YOU!!!

#ihateyou #tradesandro #fireguedes

LMAOO!