George Karl wonders how long Jackson would last in New York

Adam Zagoria, Team Reporter

Count George Karl among those who wonder how long Phil Jackson would last in New York, should he join the front office this week.

In an interview Monday on ESPN’s “Mike & Mike,” Karl pointed out that Jackson will reportedly split time between New York, California and Montana in his potential new role as President of Basketball Operations.

“I don’t think he wants to do it for five or six years, I think he wants to do it quick,” Karl said.

Assuming owner James Dolan grants the 68-year-old Jackson the complete control he requires to run the basketball side of things — a big if — Jackson would face numerous obstacles going forward.

The Knicks have limited cap space, no draft pick this year and face an uncertain future regarding Carmelo Anthony.

Of course, those obstacles will remain no matter who is in charge.

“How long will it take [to turn things around] and how long will he do this job?” Karl asked in reference to Jackson.

“There are so many huge decisions that if you don’t do it right, this organization is going to struggle and I don’t think Phil likes struggling,” Karl said in a separate interview on SportsCenter. “He likes winning, he likes winning championships.”

Karl — along with Avery Johnson, Nate McMillan and Byron Scott – has been touted as a potential coach for the Knicks if Jackson comes aboard, but Karl and Anthony have their own issues and it seems unlikely Anthony would sign off on that.

“I think Melo has to prove that he can fit into a championship-level team,” Karl said.


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.




107 comments
zebeto
zebeto

george karl is a str8 up hater !

beatseven
beatseven

Once again J.D. wears his keester as a hat...he had a career front office basketball man here in Donnie Walsh...who was turning the franchise around and let him go 'cause he wouldn't grant him full control...now Phil Jackson, who has no experience in the front office...Thank God for the Knick City Dancers.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

SAS is reporting Melo is didn't like the fact that he was not consulted and/or informed about hiring Phil Jackson.

Also that he didn't like Grunwald being fired after winning 54 games and immediately told that to  Dolan.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

PHIL JACKSON LIKELY TAKING KNICKS JOB:


"There's always the possibility of something falling apart at the last minute, but the Knicks' sense is that he's joining them."

The two sides are still working out all the details, including what Jackson's title will be, how much time he will spend in New York, and when in the next few months he will start his job.

Jackson's answer is expected to become official within the next day or so. The Knicks have not yet scheduled an announcement.

Jackson will not be a mere consultant for the Knicks, as he was recently for the Detroit Pistons. Whatever his title, he will be an integral part of the club's basketball operations. Jackson will definitely not coach the team.

While owner James Dolan will pay Jackson handsomely to make basketball decisions, Dolan is still expected to maintain a voice in terms of decision making, the source said. Bringing Jackson aboard could move the Knicks away from their ties to Creative Artists Agency, the player and coach representation firm that many league insiders, including some Knicks players, believe has an inordinate amount of power within the franchise.

Assistant general manager Allan Houston, coach Mike Woodson, player personnel director Mark Warkentien and superstar Carmelo Anthony are all CAA clients.

One Knicks player recently told ESPN.com that the CAA ties were a problem in the locker room.

"You see how guys from CAA are treated differently," the player said. "How they get away with saying certain things to coaches. How coaches talk to them differently than they talk to the other guys. It's a problem."

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

BREAKING...PHIL TAKING KNICKS JOB?...:


All indications are that Phil Jackson will accept the NY KNICKS' offer to join the club's front office, according to a league source.

"The Knicks have a sense of what's going to happen," the source said, speaking on the condition of anonymity. "And as of right now, it looks like Phil's taking the job.

"There's always the possibility of something falling apart at the last minute, but the Knicks' sense is that he's joining them."

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

SAS says Phil was insulted that Dolan sent Mills to ask him to coach the team and turned the job down. Dolan had to fly out to LA and make the offer in person.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

SAS is speculating that Phil Jackson is using the Knicks to get a job with the Lakers.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

This is one tough crowd here. 

George Karl is a fine coach. After losing Melo, he led the Nuggets to a 57-25 record, earning coach of the year honors. 57 wins was more than any Melo led Denver team ever achieved. From the reports I've seen, he was fired for not playing the owner's prize free agent signee, Shaqtin' A Fool, JaVale McGee enough.

So now that the owner got his way and fired both Uriji and Karl, his team has nosedived into the lottery. They are currently 27-35. Shades of Dolan.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

LOL Do people still take George Karl seriously? He contradicts himself every other interview. He's like a bride left at the alter.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

At this point G Karl is showing his true colors.

Acting like the bitter old man he always has been.

The game flew past by him and now he has nothing else to do but b¨tch at the "what could've been", "what should've been", etc. 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Melo and Amare play really well together. They have learned each other on the court. Melo knows exactly where Amare does his best work--knows where he likes the ball.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

George Karl is so bitter. He can kiss my big hairy ones!!! Can't stand him.

donche
donche

All Dolan has to do is give Phil the Zeke treatment.

Be loyal to me...be my friend and do what you want.

Zeke got away with assault...literally. I'm sure him and Phil can work it out.

Dolan is a horrible person but he rides for his guys....and if Phil is one of them it shouldn't cause any problems

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

PHIL JACKSON, our new GM will be confirmed this week.  Don't fret Knicks Fans!  We got our man!  If not, then I'm wrong. lol ....and let the marching on MSG begin!

cj1786
cj1786

Why again do we care what George Karl's opinion is?  It seems he is always running his mouth about what the Knicks are doing. To be honest, considering his history with Carmelo and the Knicks over the Carmelo trade, he's probably got one of the least credible opinions on the subject.

rgm891
rgm891

According to the daily news we should hear his decision today!!!!

rgm891
rgm891

George Karl needs to get a life. No one cares about his opinion especially on knicks related issues.

yikes
yikes

im so sick of hearing about george karl! who cares what he thinks??

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

Imagine TKB comment section if Phil rejects the offer after the whole story leaked. Straight riot.

jax13
jax13

Also if Phil gets here, plenty of stars are gonna want in.

I would not put a lot of thought into Karl's comments, he still seems to be sore at melo.

jax13
jax13

I love melo but if he truly wants a chip, he wants Phil jax in his basketball life. Just ask Kobe about Phil jax.

Melo is focused on playing right now. This is a front office move that does not effect him this year. When this year is over, he will deal with it then.....

If Phil jax does not want melo, I have to trust him n his experience.

I think in the end, if Phil comes, melo will stay too. A lot of rings come with his experience.

If melo truly does not wanna play for Phil than melo needs to move on.....

Phil jax is inexperienced as an executive but you have to trust his knowledge n experience......

saintknick
saintknick

I'm starting to think that Phil isn't coming, and it is the fault, again, of bad ownership and management.


EVERYONE knew that Phil wanted a front office job, but was willing to coach short term as part of that role. The RIGHT move by the Knicks was to offer Phil that exact situation in the first instance.


But all reports are that the Knicks offered a coaching spot first, which Phil turned down. FURTHER, it was steve mills who made that offer, not Dolan. All of that must rub Phil the wrong way.


My hope is that the first offer was really just to open the dialog and Phil sees it as such. further, I hope that Dolan's lack of personal one-on-one meeting with Phil is interpreted as Dolan's first action as a non-involved owner.



MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Knicks_Fanatic In all fairness Melo didn't give a guarantee of staying...why consult him if he is 50/50 on staying??

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@MeloStat301  Gotta get rid of CAA and Dolan's interference. Those are the reasons we must Rally on March 19th if no changes take place!!!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@SheSaidSpikeWho  The press keeps asking his opinion because they know they'll get a story out of it. They know he's still feels the burn of Melo leaving.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knixtradamus Come on man stop talking about odds!  This is as sure as we getting Ewing via the lottery.  Stern gave us a solid then and now Silver maybe doing the same. Somebody gotta help us!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Knixtradamus  You can kiss my big hairy ones too Knix. You are so fvckin negative. Go find another blog!!

brookdon
brookdon

They arent similar analysts at all. Karl has a personal vendetta against the Knicks and everything he says is based on this.

brookdon
brookdon

Wow. I don't even want to think about that. The garden would go up in flames.

brookdon
brookdon

The funny thing is he had a chance to be a hero and solidify his opinions post Melo trade, but he still couldn't get the Nuggets out of the first round in 2 tries. He hates Melo for that and for the loss of that job.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@MeloStat301 @Knicks_Fanatic 

The problem that I would have with it, not saying Melo thinks the same way, is that the Knicks do not talk to the media. Steve Mills and Dolan say nothing. Melo becomes the defacto spokesperson as the team's franchise player. Then he gets blindsided for comments on Phil Jackson. He has to say something. He gets put on the spot.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @firebaldy  I know Amare plays zero D but if we can't get rid of him and he continues to take care of his body, he should do ok--just ok I know but still ok.

debut
debut

Knixtradmus has been here long enough to be tolerable you probably should stop feeling so insulted when someone else's opinion differs and plzz don't ask me to kiss your baby nuts I like vagina! Just sayin..

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@brookdon  Thank you and the sportscasters forever hatin on the Knicks.

rgm891
rgm891

Save us all phil!!!! I am doing the same exact thing hahahaha. Sign that dotted line. Run the show.

saintknick
saintknick

@thatsagoodpoint @saintknick  


Are you saying, if we asked him to go run the team in teh FO and he said "no", that means he really just wants to coach? I'm not quite grasping the issue.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@firebaldy @xmenreturnTrue but we only keep STATues because of his salary coming off the books in 2015. We are not going anywhere relying on STATues.  We need to find out what these younger dudes can do to see if they should go or be kept.

I would luv to see Phil on the sidelines for  short period of time to help determine that.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knixtradamus LOL Come on man, I'm Valedictorian of the little short bus and Biggie is being left back a grade again!   My braced shoes are made for walking.   

It's a done deal!  Bank on it!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knixtradamus @xmenreturnLMAO!  I have a plan and Biggie just has blind hope,

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knixtradamus @xmenreturnYeah and that's why I say he's banking on 2105+ and beyond and to go after Riley's coveted asset LBJ.  

He surely won't do it next year!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knixtradamus Phil luvs the attention and he would luv to out do Riley as a GM too and get back at LA for choosing Pringles over a 11-time ring winner who won nearly have of them there.  

That really gotta hurt! Who in their right mind chooses Pringles over this guy? 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@saintknick @thatsagoodpointI could see Phil coaching for a short time just to see what he really has on this team.  I do not think he wants to do all the traveling and grunt work of coaching anymore.

saintknick
saintknick

@thatsagoodpoint @saintknick  


The news, from months ago, was that Phil would be willing to return, but wanted a FO job, BUT WOULD be willing to coach for a short transitional period if necessary. 


That came out long before these talks. Seems to make it clear that Phil doesn't want coaching-only or low-power positions. 


Yet, from various sources, the Knicks started the dialog offering him a COACHING position alone. That is what I have a problem with. If you want Phil, you KNOW you need to give him the keys. First offer should have been to do so.