Is Luke Walton still a candidate for a Knicks’ job?

Keith Schlosser

Dating back to Steve Kerr’s candidacy for the Knicks’ head coaching job, there were also many other names from Phil Jackson’s inner circle swirling around.

One of them was Luke Walton, a former Lakers’ champion who spent last season as a player development assistant in the D-League. As fate would have it, Jackson and Walton have not spoken since the Knicks’ attention shifted from Kerr to Derek Fisher (Begley, June 7).

It would appear that, given those comments, Walton was being considered as a candidate for an assistant job (alongside Kerr), rather than the head coaching one. Still, given Walton’s relationship with Fisher from their time in Los Angeles, one would think there’s an even better fit there, than there would have been with Kerr.

By now, it’s clear that as close knit as Jackson’s inner circle really is, it’s still quite large. There are plenty of candidates to choose from and fill out the coaching staff. But will there be enough spots to go around for all those being considered? That is the question.

In addition to Walton, Bill Cartwright is still waiting in the wings. The likes of Jackson-confidants Jim Cleamons, Kurt Rambis, and Frank Hamblen have all been mentioned as well.

As a young and somewhat inexperienced coach, Walton surely meets some of the qualifications Jackson has in mind for a potential head coach. But with Fisher the primary target, some of the more veteran staffers may take priority over Walton as assistant candidates to fill out the staff with and support Fisher.




89 comments
theking
theking

good luck getting melo shump or jr to listen to dukie Walton

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@bonobo The Bargnani trade was terrible. 

Phil jackson hasn't been a good or bad GM/Pres because he hasn't done anything yet. The one thing he did was fire woodson and the entire coaching staff. That was a great thing. He signed Lamar Odom to a non-guaranteed contract...he can be cut at anytime if it isn't working out. He lost out on Kerr...a guy even Phil said he wasn't sure was going to come to NY. The media made it seem as if Kerr was definitely coming. In fact, Phil told him to go explore his options. Phil hasn't done anything yet so let's stop trying to criticize the man as if he has. You're looking for anything to complain about. How about you wait and see how it goes this season and then you can have at it. At least then you'll have real evidence of success or failure. 

chudogz1
chudogz1

@bonobo. I agree 100% about Bargnani, since day 1..... But as far as Phil, he's not our GM, he's president of bball operations, which is the same job as the woman he lives with, so it's clear why they didn't offer him the position. I would say the reason he didn't get offered their GM position, is because Mitch Kupchick has some championships under his belt as a GM. I'm not sure any owner would make that move, based in my business management class I took in college... Go Knicks

theking
theking

@bonobo  no we said it was a good trade because of what we gave up ... novak and camby? novak doesn't even get run in Toronto. we didn't want to give up those picks that's what everyone here can agree on

chudogz1
chudogz1

@theking. I'm confused... Was it a good trade, or bad? I said bad then, and now I say horrible...

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@theking @bonobo 

And we know that the three draft picks we gave up are just a crapshoot. Who needs a 2016 1st, a 2014 2nd, and a 2017 2nd?

brookdon
brookdon

Do you think Kobe Bryant or Dwyane Wade would listen to Luke Walton? Was Ewing pig headed for running Nelson out of town?

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Knicks_Fanatic... LOL.. Yes, according to "the most knowledgable" fans in the game, the draft is a crapshoot.... LMAO. I needed a good laugh!

RivDim
RivDim

Second round picks can and will be purchased if Knicks desire. I was and am apposed to the Bargnani trade. But it's highly unlikely that the 2016 pick will be as good or better than Andrea. Knicks can recover. Everybody just calm down. This idea that the teams who stock pile picks are the most successful is a lie.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@brookdon 

Why do you think they wouldn't listen to a coach, any coach? These guys didn't win multiple rings ignoring their coaches. Teams win rings. That trio never won a thing. Patrick listened to JVG and he was anyone either. Walton isn't going to be our head coach.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@RivDim. LMAO... My man, Bargnani sucks... I will bet that pick will be better than Bargs... Novak was better than Bargs, the dude is straight trash, what to speak of brainless, incase you forgot those games he blew.... They should have given us a #1 pick to take that scrub...

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@bonobo @Knicks_Fanatic @theking 

The Bargnani supporters are firm in their convictions that a $3 million 45% three ball shooter is not nearly as good as a $11 million 28% three ball shooter who misses half a season every year with injuries.

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown @theking So let me say this.   I don't believe NBA players would respect him enough and feel galvanized by him.  Luke Walton has done nothing to warrant their respect.   Walton in NYC, as the HC.....not something to get excited about.

theking
theking

@chudogz  novak is not better then bargs chase him off the three point line and tell me how good he is ... bargs can create his own shot. bargs was not worth the picks we gave up but no way in hell you can tell me novak is better then bargs

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@chudogz Novak is better than bargs in what regard??  three point shooting, yes.  


Putting the ball on the floor and creating his own shot...hell no.


2 point fg %.....no.


rebounding....?


defense...hell no.


A better fit for the knicks....yes (novak)

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic @bonobo @theking  yea he shott 45 percent wide open how did he contribute when they put a person on him? did camby play 10 games for us? say what u want but bargs was playing well before the injury ... he wasn't that bad man on man defense sometimes yall gotta just calm down the world is not ending smh ... like I said the picks is the only thing I want back

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown... 3 pt shooting, better fit for Knicks, durability and he made in 4 yrs what Barn Boy makes in 1..... Add in all the draft picks we gave up and yes, Novak was better for our situation... I can name numerous good games Novak gave us, I can only think if 1 from the #1 pick... Yes, Novak sucked against the Heat and Celtics, the 2 best defensive teams in the league at that point, but BarnBoy SUCKED against everybody, especially the bottom feeders, look it up and get back to me!

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Mel Brown 

Novak 84-51 with the Knicks

Bargnani 15-27 with the Knicks

Novak was a much better fit with the team and they didn't ask him to create off the dribble or rebound. He had a role and that was to stretch the floor.


chudogz1
chudogz1

@theking. THE PICKS IS WHAT MADE THE TRADE BAD...... If u want the picks back, then you're saying it was a bad trade!!!

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown @theking I played as well.  And, I can tell you my teammates and I tuned out a coach we had no respect for.  


As a coach, I've never had that issue.  However, if I did encounter that, I would have a one on one with the player, set him or her straight and assess from there.  


If the disrespect was blatant and rude then he or she wouldn't play until they buy in.

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown @theking  he can do what he wants .. you want to know why? because the players he coaches aren't getting paid more then him. our players will get paid more the Walton and its easier to get rid of him then to get rid of players especially if they are your top 5 players on the team

theking
theking

@chudogz  we agree that the picks shouldn't have been given for him but novak is not better then him. u put someone near novak now you play 4 on 4 so where is that spacing ? see how  bosh spaces the floor? he can shoot and take you off the dribble can novak?

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@chudogz It's simple.  As I stated in my earlier post.  Novak was a better fit for NY.  HOWEVER, any person that has played ball can tell you that man to man Bargs is a way better player than Novak all-around.  


Novak cant defend, rebound, is slow, lacks defensive basketball iq, and is limited offensively.



Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown I stated that in my earlier post.   Not disputing that.  However, man to man, Bargs is a better player.  


Bargs is a system guy.  If he played on the Spurs he would excel like most Euro players.  

theking
theking

@chudogz  is that not what I said? I said bargs for novak and camby was ok that trade with picks going to them is bad for us ... get it now?

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic @theking @bonobo  novak is trash ... put novak on howard or another center and see what happens at least he can hold his own ... can novak? if novak is not wide open tell me how he contributes to the team?

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Mel Brown @Knicks_Fanatic @theking 

That is great coaching technique!  You don't stand for disresepect or players not listening. Fisher won't either.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@theking. BarnBoy can't dribble either. He is bigger n better on D, but not for 11.5 mill... If he was so good, why was he on the pine all the time and why did Toronto get better when they cut him, and we got worse?

chudogz1
chudogz1

@theking. Were debating the trade, which was horrible... And for the $$, I'll take Novak for 3 mill over BarnBoy for 11.5 mill... The team that drafted him knew he sucked, he was riding the pine all year, his name was Master Splinter...

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown. I'm not debating Novak vs. BarnBoy..... Were debating Novak, Camby a 1st and 2 second rounders for Bargnani... Were debating the trade in full... And yes, to me there both one trick ponies, only difference is their size and their contracts... Both scrubs, and for the $$, I'll take Camby, Novak and my 3 picks 12 times out if 10...

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Mel Brown @Knicks_Fanatic 

The NBA is a team game, not man to man. Toronto rid themselves of Bargnani and won the Atlantic. The Knicks traded for Bargnani and missed the playoffs. No way that Bargnani made us a better team, despite his individual skills.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@theking @Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown 

You do have a wild imagination or need new glasses. You have to consider how players affect the team. The Knicks looked awful when Bargnani was on the floor on both ends. I saw little that made the Knicks a better team when he was on the floor. He did had a few games where he hit shots or played good man to man. Most of the time the team looked disorganized when he was on the floor.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@theking. Not really... Was it a good trade or not? INCLUDING THE PICKS

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@chudogz you stated; "My man, Bargnani sucks... I will bet that pick will be better than Bargs... Novak was better than Bargs, the dude is straight trash, what to speak of brainless, incase you forgot those games he blew.... They should have given us a #1 pick to take that scrub..."



theking
theking

@chudogz  we are not debating the trade because everyone posting here said it was a bad trade with the picks.

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@chudogz I agree, the trade doens't equate to the salary incurred, or the picks given up.  


However, I am comparing the two.  And I responded to a statement made regarding Bargs versus Novak.  


you stated; "My man, Bargnani sucks... I will bet that pick will be better than Bargs... Novak was better than Bargs, the dude is straight trash, what to speak of brainless, incase you forgot those games he blew.... They should have given us a #1 pick to take that scrub..."


thus, sparked Kiyan's and my perspective.  

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Knicks_Fanatic your boy chudogz stated: "My man, Bargnani sucks... I will bet that pick will be better than Bargs... Novak was better than Bargs, the dude is straight trash, what to speak of brainless, incase you forgot those games he blew.... They should have given us a #1 pick to take that scrub..."

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown I know it's a team game.  I coached for many years.  However, in typical barbershop and blog debates it's logical to debate player against player.   


ONCE AGAIN, NOVAK WAS A BETTER FIT FOR THE KNICKS...I STATED THAT ALREADY...."DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMING OUT OF MY MOUTH"

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic  what the hell did our defense look like when we had novak? if you think novak is a better defender then bargs then this debate is over

chudogz1
chudogz1

@theking. Ok, them were debating who would we rather have for their salaries? I'll still take Novak, even though he never showed up in big games for 3 mill and you can have Barnboy for half season and 11.5 mill...fair enough?

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown @theking. My point being, would you rather have Novak for 3 mill, or BarnBoy for half a season and 11.5 mill...?

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@chudogz your words were clear.   However, 3 mil for Novak for how many more years now?


I value Bargs expiring contract at this moment.