J.R. Smith tweets he would stop talking to a Miami-bound Carmelo

Knicks guard J.R. Smith tweeted Saturday that he would stop talking to Carmelo Anthony if he went to the Miami Heat.

Though Anthony has not made any official free agency plans, Miami along with Dallas, Houston, and Chicago have been a part of the discussion.

Smith later said, “My opinion is let him do him.”

While Smith may have been joking around, it’s no joke how some Knicks fans would respond if Anthony left New York for Miami.




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mrdullah
mrdullah

Harden... a good facilitator...

SMH

knickfan2
knickfan2

But Diaw’s dream was dashed in Atlanta, where Woodson employed heavy isolation sets and the ball stagnated. It’s a great system when you have a transcendent scorer and leader to whom teammates will defer. It’s not so pretty when Al Harrington or Antoine Walker are jacking up jumpers to their hearts’ content. Diaw’s game suffered. Parker called almost every day to console his friend. “He went to Atlanta and it was not a good fit for him, because they don’t play as a team, and he’s a team player,” Parker said. “For you to see Boris at a high level and to appreciate his game, he needs to play with unselfish guys. So it was very hard for him in the beginning. I just told him to stay positive, and hopefully something good will happen.” Grantland

Atlanta Hawks, San Antonio Spurs, Boris Diaw 

After Atlanta’s season mercifully ended, Woodson asked Diaw during his exit interview to come back the next season with a scorer’s mentality. “I cannot play for you,” Diaw simply responded. Grantland

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HarthorneWingoStarr
HarthorneWingoStarr

JR would stop talking to him? That would be reason enough for me to bolt to Miami if I were Melo!

lobcity1
lobcity1

Melo the Cancer, Ball hog, Ball Stopper, fat and, no defense and plenty other names that many people call him. My question is, if he's all of these things then how come all these teams want him? How come the best player in the NBA wants to play with him?

Peaople are nuts!

zebeto
zebeto

@OLDKNICK  im not sure the knicks can afford him after these last Finals ............would be a major upgrade at point for us though .

cstaylor23
cstaylor23

How can the clippers trade redick with D. Jordan but then still retain him for the roster you stated?

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Knicks_Fanatic See to do that we need a system.

We haven't had that in a long, long time and we've yet to see what Fish and Phl have in mind.

johneco
johneco

@barnaby87  I would do 3, but that's not a valid option.

I wouldn't do 2 - anyone we traded for would destroy our flexibility for 2015.  I doubt there's anyone available I'd be willing to do that for.

I need some picks coming back, unless we can unload our bad contracts.

chudogz1
chudogz1

Scenario 2 works for me... All the players being mentioned SUCK, so they might fit right in on this roster!!!

Max Denby
Max Denby

Tremendous stuff. So happy Woody is gone.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@knickfan2 

Remember that ring wearers Udrih and MWP were also unable to contribute on the Woodson Knicks.

brookdon
brookdon

What was Diaw's excuse for being out of shape in Charlotte?

knickfan2
knickfan2

Beno Udrih: Reading about people being proven wrong with Spurs winning! I don't get that!! They play the right way and team ball and the system is #1! Twitter @BenoUdrih1

Memphis Grizzlies, San Antonio Spurs, Beno Udrih 

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chudogz1
chudogz1

@knickfan2. I just read that also... The Woodson lovers need to read it also, but I'm sure they will have some dumb response!!! I also just read Beno saying basketball is a TEAM sport, something some people need to realize... Shots fired at WoodRow, and they are well deserved!!!

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

Birth of a hater. When one roots for the negative to get a reaction

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@thatsagoodpoint

It is pretty funny right now, seeing "We really need to get Melo help!!!" and "I really do not want the Knicks to underpay Carmelo..." comments from the same posters...

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@thatsagoodpoint Funny thing?

Imo, folks will miss him.

Those who will later on talk about our lack of scoring will remember.


Most fans (not only Knick fans) rarely appreciate what they have.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@HawthorneWingoStarr and JRs kids would never get a gift from their godfather again, which I'm sure sounds good to Melo

chudogz1
chudogz1

@lobcity. People are brain dead... They don't know if their going or stating.. Seem very miserable or their cable doesn't work

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@lobcity  I don't see people saying that Melo is a cancer. My argument only has been on the money side. Again, the salary cap for a team is salary cap is 59 Million and paying Melo 26 Million would be 44% of your budget. Can you win that much money tied upon 1 player.


Again, in this current CBA, Jordan would be the only player I would give a max contract. I would NOT give it to LBJ either.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@lobcity

Not saying it's his fault, but the problem is that they all want Melo to join their crews - unfortunately, no one is lining up to play with Carmelo in NY.

Chris
Chris

@lobcity Haters must hate, its the law of the blog jungle

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@Sandro. .. Harden Melo, and D12 on the same team is bomb shell... it will be a disaster.

Harden is a complete ball hugger.

Melo wants his touches and 20 shots per game

D12 is a crying baby needs 15 shots per game or the sky is falling.

Everyone else would be expectators.

There is only one rock and so many possessions in a game..

IMO, Houston is not a fit for Melo and he is not winning there..

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@bockers... OMG!!! You are genius if you can pull that off. I thought you said Reddick to Miami but you still have him on Clippers roster.

Keep up the good thoughts.. priceless! !

knickfan2
knickfan2

#2 is obviously the best option. But, #3 sounds too good to pass up as well. If Dallas is willing to take Felton & JR, you would seriously have to consider that option.

knickfan2
knickfan2

Knicks_Fanatic, true indeed. I never understood that when he relied so heavily on veterans.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@brookdon not playing in Atlanta would be a good place to start... He was probably eating Crosaunts on the bench while WoodRow was calling Harrington and Walkers number.... Walker was fat last time I looked!!

knickfan2
knickfan2

He was still killin' Stat every time we played them...lol

chudogz1
chudogz1

@VerySilentJay. I can see them changing there screen name to something like MeloCouldntHandleIt. Meanwhile, they've had nothing but bad things to say about the guy... If he leaves, were back to square A, which has never been a good square to be on as a Knicks fan

theking
theking

@Tony Fonseca @lobcity  we understand that tony. what ppl have been saying is that melo has never asked for the max even saying to the media that he WOULD sacrifice money to build something in new York.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@BigChiefTriangle. Have you looked at how much money we have to spend... It's like 3 mill... Who you thinks gonna sign on to that??

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@BigChiefTriangle The Knicks don't have any Cap space lol. CP3 wanted to play with Melo. Had the Knicks not signed Chandler and they Billups contract expire, it would have happened. 

Stop making stuff up.

theking
theking

@BigChiefTriangle  then that should show you not everyone wants to play in new York .... so that 2015 cap space etc could be a failure. 2010 all over again?

Richard Alicea
Richard Alicea

He's overrated...this guy can't take no team to the promise land...he had some good players in DENVER and what happened.  He's selfish; started talking about opting out before the season ever started...has no idea what the definition of LOYALTY is. If he leaves no sweat off my back...lets get LOVE here.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@thatsagoodpoint. Deja VU??? Sounds like 2010 all over... I'll pass

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@theking @Tony Fonseca @lobcity  I see some people saying that would be a disrespect if Phil does not give him a max. I want Melo to stay and I think he would take his game to another level playing for Phisher.


Also, the triangle would help him defensively because we would play a more team defense to compensate for some of his weakness on defense.


Here are the Melo's weakness on defense: He is not quick enough to chase a SM forward tru screens and he is not big enough to take a pounding of a PF ala David West. Therefore, he needs some team defense to help him.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@NoVaCaInE

Again, I didn't say it was Carmelo's fault.  Carmelo's team leaked that he wanted NY, one year prior to expiration of his Denver contract to permit a mid-season trade.  It is now the summer of 2014, and I don't see any of the 2015 FAs following suit (understandably, because Carmelo has not made his future intentions clear...no one knows what next year's situation will be in NY).

I don't like to live in the counterfactual - "we would have definitely realized this alternate future had we done X..."  but I'm not sure the Knicks could've topped that Clippers CP3 deal (LAC was also on CP's "wish list").  Bygones.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@sandro... I am not part of that scoring menthality fantasy that they exhibit here.

From a team standpoint, it would become the law of diminishing returns ala Miami. Bosh has faded away in Miami because he has less opportunities.

The same thing would happen with D12 and he is not as quiet as Bosh.

This notion of 3 stars on a team is flawed and Miami is/was an aberration. To be effective a team should have 2 stars and a good supporting cast.

knickfan2
knickfan2

K_F, I knew it had to be too good to be true. I just saw Felton & JR in a trade scenario, and my eyes just lit up with glee.

theking
theking

@Richard Alicea  what??? so melo cant take no team to the promise land but you want LOVE? lmaoooo you stupid or something Love cant even get to the playoff dumbass

mrdullah
mrdullah

@Richard Alicea You ABSOLUTELY don't know wtf you are talking about do you? 

You're either about 17 or one of those wall street types... LOVE OVER MELO... REALLY???

chudogz1
chudogz1

@thatsagoodpoint. WRONG!!! Just because I wasn't posting on here, I've been reading it forever!! Everyone was saying, new GM, money to spend new start.... Not sure how were starting at square A if Melo leaves, yet we still have 3 of the top WORST contracts in the league... How's that square A, more like square F, as in FAILURE

theking
theking

@Tony Fonseca @theking @lobcity  I don't think that he is not quick enough to guard small forwards ... what I think it is, is that he doesn't commit to guarding ppl consistently .... with a coach and a better defensive system he will be better on the defensive end (not saying he could be an all defense person)

johneco
johneco

@Sandro Guedes @NoVaCaInE @lobcity  I have to say Sandro is sounding like the only intelligent person on this thread.  He's asking for a direct quote from Lebron.  And y'all keep giving him links to crap where various pundits talk bs based on unnamed sources.  Are you really dumb enough to think that constitutes proof?  There is no direct quote from Lebron.

Plus btw, if you think Portugal is a crap place to live you are insane. 

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@Sandro Guedes @NoVaCaInE @lobcity That's because he was too busy competing for a Championship. Plus, that's tampering! Sandro come on man. You can't be this much of a Melo troll.

MJ loves him, Kobe loves him, LeBron wants to play with him, Dirk, Rondo want to play with him, Durant has good things to say about Melo. 

I guess you know better than them huh?

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@thatsagoodpoint 

I believe if Melo walks, we can sign and trade as long as we remain under the apron, which is $4 million above the tax line. The only issue would be getting Marion to play for a Melo-less and Chandler-less Knicks team. He would probably want to play for a contender.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@theking @Tony Fonseca @lobcity The main reason is his body type is not made to make those cuts constantly and consistently with the same crisp result.


It is not because de does not want to, it is just Physics to be honest. More mass (not fat) you carry, more energy you spend carrying it, and slower you are in changing direction/making cuts. 


I played soccer professionally and I know that the skinny guys could do wonders with a ball but they would lose their flare as soon as they put some mass including myself.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Sandro Guedes. Sippin too much hater-Ade... Why don't you wait and see if he takes a paycut, before ranting and raving... You want to rebuild, but we have NO picks!!! The Sixers are rebuilding and have plenty.... There's a difference between dreaming and reality and the reality is next years draft isn't nothing special, so I'm not sure exactly what you're looking forward too, or if you just like to b**ch and moan, non stop... The guy had no help, the worst pg and coach in the league(just read the Diaw comment) , you've even said all these things yourself, but you continue to rip on the best player we've had since Pat Ewing.... It's fans like YOU that make players not want to play here... No disrespect, but I don't see you volunteering to take a paycut, especially if you are a top employee at whatever you do....

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown. Sandro lives in another country, he doesn't get the NY POST wherever the hell he's at

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@Mel Brown I provided 2 links above. Sandro just wants to be difficult as usual. 

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Sandro Guedes. Now it all makes sense... You jump on the bandwagon of a crappy team, and now you're always mad!!! Why the hell would you even become a Knicks fan, we've SUCKED forever, honestly, so that doesn't say much about you... Go Knicks

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown. He probably knows what Last Take is, he knows nothing of first!!! I think he just likes to piss people off because he must live in a lame place, plus Portugal got smoked today, looked a lot worse than Melo if you ask me....

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Sandro Guedes. Reading is fundamental homie... Did you take ELA class in school ??

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Mel Brown. MISERY LOVES COMPANY... He seems to be just that! Don't waste you're time