Knicks finish 4-4 on homestand, say they’re optimistic going forward

Adam Zagoria

Tim Hardaway Jr.When this eight-game homestand began for the Knicks, head coach Mike Woodson had some big goals.

“If we can win all eight it would be fantastic, but it’s gotta start tonight. We gotta get the first one first,” Woodson said Jan. 17 before a loss to the Clippers.

The Knicks finished the homestand Saturday night with an emphatic 106-91 loss to LeBron James and the Heat that dropped them to 4-4 on the New York run and snapped their four-game winning streak.

“We won some games and we lost some games we thought we should have won,” Anthony said after going for 26 points with seven turnovers in the loss. “I like the direction we are going in right now as far as mentality and focus. We have to bounce back on Monday.”

The Knicks (19-28) will visit the Milwaukee Bucks on Monday before returning home to face Portland and Denver.

Still, they are just 11-16 at the Garden this season and have now lost as many games this season as they did all of last season.

The Knicks remain 6 1/2 games behind Toronto in the Atlantic.

“I’m just looking at what we’ve accomplished the last week or so,” Tyson Chandler said. “Obviously the way we started off, we didn’t want to start that way. But that’s not going to change at this point. I’m very pleased with the way we’ve been playing of late. Even tonight, we had some bright spots and if we do better on turnovers and limit the layups they were able to get, we’re right in the fight. We’ve been playing better basketball of late.”


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.

107 comments
rgm891
rgm891

Another triple overtime thriller against the Bucks coming right up!!!!!!!!

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

I am afraid to open up my tweet deck for fear of seeing a stupid trade go down when you consider that Kyrie, Lowry, and maybe even Rondo "could" be had

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

According to Berman the Knicks are looking to make a trade for a back up C, this front office really has no clue, if the Knicks trade Shump and don't get a PG in return they have reached a new low of stupidity

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

The emergence of THJR is definitely a bright spot to a dull season...we definitely got a Steal in the Draft with this kid

if this Team didn't have Melo he would be clear cut for Rookie of the Year cause he'd be Starting and Averaging a high # 


orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

Can't be optimistic with that overweight penguin masquerading as an NBA PG we have running our offense.

melo7
melo7

What kinda contract does everyone think Lowry will get in the off season

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Maybe this has been discussed before, but why is Woody giving MWP garbageman minutes? It's almost as if they want him to embarass him. Putting him in for 50 seconds with Murry and Aldrich is really low.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

I guess the Knicks aren't the only team that wears all orange and gets crushed when playing in NY.

rgm891
rgm891

If this was game 7 of the nba finals, I would have been in jail for murdering Mike Woodson if we played this bad.  

bigdishing
bigdishing

I heard that Woodson was talking to John Fox before the game and advised him on some new schemes. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Seth Nadler  

Maybe Bargnani's elbow is going to keep him out for longer than reported. It's pretty clear that Aldrich is not going to play much, K-Mart's ankle is going to make his status day to day for the rest of the year, Tyler is best suited as a 4, and Amar'e  has never been one of Woodson's players. 

Woody is still looking to go big and this move could be a response to Indiana signing Bynum.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

After losing out on Bynum, #Knicks would like to trade for backup center but is it worth dealing Shumpert

nysportfan
nysportfan

@Seth Nadler  

seriously, why. We have Kmart, Tyler, Cole, and Amare. Only thing we should be giving up anything for is a PG

solar_lion
solar_lion

10 greatest and Knicks coaches for this sorry as franchise is a joke. Pooh on anyone who takes that sorta BR a article seriously.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@OLDKNICK  I saw Pringles and I stopped reading.

It's BR. Commands no respect or credibility.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@melo7 Right now he's making 6 mil.

He'll be looking to get over 10.  

No doubt.


chudogz
chudogz

@knicks_fanatic WoodRow is a moron.... @biggie. LOL, he wasn't getting much time prior to the "injury".... WoodRow is stuck in his ways, as evidenced by Murry going right back to the bench, right after he helped us go on a little win streak... Peace

lindro88
lindro88

Don't worry about game 7 of the finals. If that ever happens it won't be with Mike Woodson in charge.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@rgm891  If this was a game 7 performance, I'd probably be in the hospital with alcohol poisoning.

Tikki
Tikki

@Biggie  " Also for the Lakers, getting Okefor would get them below the Luxury cap for this year "

I don't think that's accurate.  I believe they would still be above the threshold by ~$3M.  Also, the Lakers do not appear particularly interested in a Gasol trade that only nets them financial relief:


"The Lakers, though, have been adamant that they won't part with Gasol merely for financial relief, even in a season in which they've slipped into the West's bottom three at 16-31. Lakers officials refused to relent in their talks with Cleveland, convinced that they had other means to get below the luxury-tax threshold before the trade deadline and that Gasol still holds trade value."

Quote from Marc Stein article for "the worldwide leader in sports".

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Biggie  

So Phoenix, if this trade goes through, will have turned Dudley and Gortat, plus a second round pick into Bledsoe, Gasol, and a first round pick. That's GM of the Year type work.

chudogz
chudogz

@knicks_fanatics. We shouldn't be paying attention to Indiana at this point, were not even close. We should pay attention to the NYKNICKS, the coach, the GM and the point guard...... Because were stuck with the owner, unfortunately

chudogz
chudogz

@sandro guedes. And owner

solar_lion
solar_lion

More like big one and two halves.

solar_lion
solar_lion

I thnk he'll get in the area of the full mid level exception. Maybe slightly more.

knickster
knickster

@Biggie Lowry is not nearly as good as some people think. Thus the general lack of interest around the league.

sankofa
sankofa

Thats not true...kenyon has been hurt all season and he played 15 minutes. Against Cleveland Metta played 20 minutes. Again I ask why was he not used on LBJ? Please stop defending the incompetence of this foolish coach.

rgm891
rgm891

@Kiyan Carter  Apparently the same people we are giving up to get Rondo and Jeff Green.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Sandro Guedes @VerySilentJay @Seth Nadler  I fail to see the common sense of having Tyler as a C when he's more of a PF.

I fail to see how anyone would find interesting Felton + JR + Chandler. Two of these have been hampered and limited by injuries aside from personal struggles.

The other has been a walking mystery. Not the type of players GM's take chances on.

And aside from that, you think you'll grab a draft pick?


Again, I fail to see the logic.

OLDKNICK
OLDKNICK

@chudogz  Sure you preaching to the choir but let me tell you something about men who grow up with silver spoons in their mouths... THEY ARE ALWAYS RIGHT THEY ARE NEVER WRONG, IF SOMETHING GOES WRONG IT IS ANYBODY'S FAULT BUT THEIR OWN.... This is how it always is.... He was given everything he ever wanted by his daddy. Now you could probably reason with his dad.

chudogz
chudogz

@oldknick. I'm sure he wants to win, but when David Stern has to come and give you advice on how to run your organization and who to hire, and you still don't realize to stand back, then you are only hurting the team. He wants all the props, then he needs to take some blame:)

OLDKNICK
OLDKNICK

@chudogz  Deep down he wants to win but he loves the game of basketball because probably he cant play it. Unlike hockey which he could care less about and that is why he stays clear of rangers stuff but always in knicks stuff. Listen he would hate it andreally would NOT ALLOW it to be where the knicks finally win a championship and he was somehow someway not involved 100% and for him to receive all the congrads on what a great job he did!

chudogz
chudogz

@oldknick. He thinks he's a GM. Like Al Davis n Jerry Jones... He must not know the outcomes of those games;)

solar_lion
solar_lion

I also ask myself how often do the Knicks hit a home run when they draft in the lottery. They seem to do better drafting outside the lotto than within it. Go figure.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Blaze NYK @knickster@Biggie 

Also the new CBA doesn't allow teams over the apron to do a sign and trade. If we were able to execute a sign and trade deal for Lowry, Dolan might have pulled the trigger.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@knickster @Biggie  I think the lack of interest is more because any team that traded for him would have to resign him in the off season.  If he had another year on his contract teams would be lining up to make a deal.  Its a hard sell for any team to give up players and a draft pick for a player, no matter how good, who could bolt at the end of the season.

chudogz
chudogz

@biggie. I kno he's not ready for prime time, but Woodrow never plays the young guys, unless his hand is forced! Murry played better than Felton, especially on D... Hence the 5 game win streak... THJR would still be on the bench had JR not been hurt and then Shump! Tyler would be next to Beno and Cole had it not been for mwp n kmart n bargs injury... Nobody is saying to start these guys, but u gotta develop them... Atleast 35-40% of the teams back up pgs are better then Felton, and that's a fact....

chudogz
chudogz

@knicks_fanatic. Not at all, the NBA loves when the big market teams do well....

Tikki
Tikki

@Biggie @Tikki  

I don't think the Knicks deal is better, but is it worthwhile for the Suns to give up 1st-rounders for 1/2 season of Pau?  Maybe, maybe not - I guess it depends on the rest of the market for Phoenix's assets.  Similar to the Lowry trade scenarios, I don't think the 1-year remaining is necessarily better than 2.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Biggie @Tikki 

It should be noted that the Lakers own their 2014 pick and the Knicks do not. So tanking and getting under the luxury tax possibly, works well for the Lakers. Would anyone be surprised if the Lakers get the number 1 pick in the lottery?