Knicks interested in Jeff Teague

The Knicks are aiming to upgrade at point guard before Thursday’s trade deadline, and one player who is reportedly on their radar is Jeff Teague of the Atlanta Hawks (Stein).

The Knicks have come to the conclusion that Toronto point guard Kyle Lowry is unavailable. That realization may result in the club exploring a deal for Teague, but acquiring Teague won’t be easy and may not be in the Knicks’ financial best interest long-term.

Aside from the fact that Teague has the right to refuse any trade, he’ll also come with a hefty price tag – which would negatively impact New York’s payroll flexibility in the summer of 2015.

Teague, 25, is averaging 15.6 points and 7.2 assists per game this season for Atlanta.




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chuco
chuco

I might as well work for the garden like the FO ppl players and coaches cause they all get paid to do nothing

chuco
chuco

How does Dolan hire Steve Mills to be GM and he has yet to make a move what is he getting paid for

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

The Knicks dilemma is that they built a team for two seasons that they felt would compete for an NBA title. We have over $90 million committed in salary for next season and huge expiring contracts. So the plan to run this ship for this season and the next has been sunk. Melo opting out forces the Knicks to do something immediately to minimize the risk of losing him in the off season. This is traditionally a recipe for a bad deal on our part.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

Can someone tell me where Tyson Chandler fits in all this? For a DPOY just over a year ago, he lets the most little guys jog into the paint and put up an uncontested layup. Now there have been rumblings that he is disgruntled with Woodson and his defensive schemes and feels that he has way too much to clean up on defense, from guarding PG's for half of the game to having to cover for the turnstile that is Ray Felton. Either case, it just isn't right to do. Tyson is either still hurt or has to get his mind right. Difference between Noah and Tyson (besides handling and passing) is that you will see the fire and hustle in Tysons game maybe once out of every three games. With Noah its every single night from Jumpball to the end of regulation buzzer. I think Tyler is ready to step in. Its not a mystery that we are not contenders for a championship this year. I do believe that we can still make the playoffs and build momentum for next season with Tyler as our starting C. Bring in a real pointguard for Tyler and he'll develop even faster.

chuco
chuco

Now Berman posted knicks might pass on teague to save money for 2015 I'm tired of the FO chasing dreams if they don't get no one now or in 2015 I hope Melo bounce on that ass stubborn ass Knicks FO gonna be the death of this franchise

therealprof
therealprof

If the Knicks figure out a way to get Teague I would be impressed with the foresight of the deal. So our assets are not good enough to get a decent PG, but figuring out a way to still get a sorely needed upgrade would be a good, if not great, GM play. Furthermore, Teague's exposure in NY will place him on the national media radar and will make him more desirable if he doesn't work out, with another 3 years on a decent contract. Acquiring Teague is not just acquiring a player, but an asset, which the Knicks have very few. Teague is young and relatively injury free  and has all the tools to be a top 10 PG in the league. Even if it doesn't work out, I can see the Celtics taking Teague and his 2 years-16 million back in a sign and trade to NY in 2015, which is a decent score for a guy could leave for nothing, and since we would be under the cap, the S&T would be a viable option. Having Teague at 8 million, Melo potentially taking a pay cut, THJ and Tyler developing, STAT and Chandler expiring with guys like Noah and Hibbert as potential targets in 2015 is a decently bright future, all things considered. All that being said, we will almost certainly end up with Miller in a lopsided deal because Knicks.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

After a good nights sleep I have changed my mind to hoping the Knicks pursue Teague more than Lowry (and definitely more than Sessions!). Kid has great athleticism and his jumpshot can only improve (pretty solid mechanics). His defense is above average for his position and he has a strong build overall. Also and more importantly, we can really develop this kid because his contract is a certainty (not a free agent at the end of the year).

All this however depends on how much the Knicks would be willing to give up (Not THJR!). I would rather give up the same package for Teague than Lowry because he is much younger. Of course this can all be voided if Teague says I don't want to play for a baked potato of a coach with zero creativity.

People forget that before Horford went down, Teague was averaging over 8 apg for the first 2 months of the season which I believe was good for top 3 in apg among PG's during that period.

tifoso6
tifoso6

Lets inject some realism into this discussion.  Given the terrible Bargs trade and our bad half season isn't it clear that our bargaining position is quite weak and we will have to give away too much to pull off a trade.  The simplest solution we had was to fire the Coach and reorganize our offense and defense.   


onewhoknix
onewhoknix

The sad reality...

Knicks basketball is back tonight and we were 1-4 heading into all-star break with a loss to the Bucks. Rumors and speculation of having an actual NBA point guard are the only things keeping me going lol

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

I think trading Shumpert Felton and Metta World Peace maybe a 1 also for Jeff Teague now, along with signing Marc Gasol in 2015 is realistic. They have a 1st round pick in 2015, they probably draft a front court player. A Teague/Tim Hardaway JR backcourt would be nice.

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Does anybody know the actual trade proposal with Atlanta? Shump and what else for Teague?

bklyndude
bklyndude

Dolan thinks he can trade his way out of this mess.......oh boy.  

The Knicks screw up Shumpert's head and now they are going to trade him away so we can keep watching JR hoist up shots and Chandler can't score from the low post.  Matter of time before they mess up Hardaway, jr. as well. 

chuco
chuco

Watch the Knicks give up assets for Lowry expiring contract and watch ujiri take those assets and land rondo he gonna stick James Dolan hard

melo7
melo7

felton for andre miller

therealprof
therealprof

@Knicks_Fanatic  I might be crazy, but maybe responsible behavior by the FO could be enough to get Melo to stay. 

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@chuco they'll have a ton of money when Melo comes off the books in 2015 lol!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@chuco Man, it's like waiting for mediocre to arrive to save the season. With Woody at the steering wheel, even Stevie would Wonder.

rgm891
rgm891

@chuco  Kneggyknik wasn't kidding.  This is a huge nightmare

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@tifoso6 If I was an opposing GM I would definitely wait till the Knicks do a classic Knicks move at the deadline. Name me another team that is underperforming more than we are that isn't tanking with a draft pick. Name me another team with more desperation than the Knicks to pull of a trade to keep there star here. All gm's know this and will take advantage.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@tifoso6  

We gave up 3 picks for Bargnani and now don't want to give up one for Lowry or Teague. Only in Dolanville.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLDKNICK  

LeBron has learned from his decision disaster. Keep your mouth shut and play ball.

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

And even worse Woody is still coaching him!!

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

I think Teague is a better fit! What the Knicks need most is somebody who can get in the paint and finish or dish! Teague has a very strong handle, can handle ball pressure with ease and constantly gets in the paint! I like Lowry but he's more of a. 3 pt shooter. Either way is a major upgrade! I'm willing to give Shump for either but not a #1 pick or THJR and Shump! That's too much!

anthony G. Decesare
anthony G. Decesare

Shump, felton and mwp fits cap wise for Teague...don't know if a pick would have to be thrown in there.

zebeto
zebeto

@chuco rondo didnt want to go to SAC ,,def wont go to Toronto

chuco
chuco

Melo wants to win he could care less about behavior

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@onewhoknix lol I'm so afraid that Melo won't go anywhere because he knows that he may have to take less money and by going to a 3rd team, he really amps up the pressure on him to win or he is seen as maybe not being the answer as some thinks. 

In NYC, Melo can make his money, get his stats and let others make excuses for him if we don' win a ring.  He will never have the players if he doesn't win a ring. A very Nice Gig! 

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@kneggyknik @chuco I swear hearing Woodson's dumb face announce before training camp that Shump and JR would have to compete for that starting spot still baffles me. JR just was suspended because of marijuana abuse and then withheld a pretty serious knee surgery which delayed his recovery till he signed that contract. Kick rocks Woody.

chuco
chuco

@Biggie you right I just can't see my Knicks wait for 2015 like they did LBJ and over pay for a player we didn't want from the jump ala Stat

therealprof
therealprof

@Biggie @chuco  Agreed. It sounds like that is Berman's assumption based on previous 2015 cap-saving behavior. It would be a big mistake to put all of their eggs in the 2015 basket, IMO. Even if we keep Melo past this season, guys like LMA and K-Love are not going to want to come to Melo's team. I expect the FA haul in 2015 to be Noah and little more. Getting Teague now, developing THJ and Tyler and trying to get picks and young players for the $50M in expiring deals next year would be a great play for the FO.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@Knicks_Fanatic @tifoso6 lol this guy yesterday posted that Bargnani, THJR, Shumpert, and a first round pick 2018 would be great value for Rondo. People forget Bargnani took a lot of picks to get here. Only in the Knicks braintrust do they think traded picks for Marcus Camby and then giving Marcus Camby back to that same team with ANOTHER pick for a garbage player is a great deal lol

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Knicks_Fanatic @OLDKNICK Not Really:


10:53 AM ET 04.02 | LeBron James used his first appearance on NBA TV's "Arena Link" to make quite a statement. "I got a goal, and it's a huge goal, and that's to bring an NBA championship here to Cleveland," James said. "And I won't stop until I get it." Taken literally, James' statement is newsworthy because it would mean that the Cavs' superstar, who can become a free-agent this summer, would stay in Cleveland at least as long as it takes to bring the city an NBA championship.

Real GM

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

With no pick that's a good deal for Knicks! But will Teague over rondo make MELO happy? I suspect no moves would be made without Melo's approval!

chuco
chuco

Hope not I will be devastated

denelor
denelor

@carl hill  It's the coach who has only played his best lineup for 110 minutes all season that is the weak link. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@onewhoknix So True. Woody should have used that moment (and before) to instruct Shump on what he really wanted from him this season and that he expected him to step on this year.  

Once I saw the (although brief) experiment in the summer league to have Shump practice the pt, I knew Woody was lost on having a plan.  You don't confuse young players when you're trying to mold them.

therealprof
therealprof

@xmenreturn @therealprof  You are right that FAs dont really take the Knicks seriously anymore because of the FO and ownership, but I do believe that responsible FO actions and behavior can change that perception. If the Knicks go into the 2015 off season with Melo, Teague, THJ, JR, Tyler, a defensive minded coach(for real this time), a decent 1st round pick, they can be considered close to contending, depending what happens with Miami this offseason. I can see a native NYer like Noah or Hibbert feeling like they can be the final piece to the puzzle. Who knows.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@therealprof I'm not so sure since Melo dominates the ball.  However, do you think FA thinks we are a player away from winning a ring? 

Why would they want to come to NY and get the huge spotlight on them if winning a ring is their main need? 

I can see a player wanting to come to NY for the attention and money but truly thinking they can win a ring not so much.  That's the dilemma we have to watch out for. Players coming here to use us and not really wanting to make the sacrifice to win a ring. 

therealprof
therealprof

@xmenreturn @therealprof  I dont think that FAs dont want to play with Melo in general, just guys that duplicate his position and effectiveness, like Stat. That experiment never got much time to work, but is perceived as a disaster around the league, which would deter scoring PF types like LMA and Love, but might welcome guys like Hibbert and Noah. Also, any decent shooting 2 guard would love to play with Melo because of the open shots he would create for them with double teams. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@therealprof If FA don't want come play with Melo then why should we invest so much in Melo when we can rebuild around him to contend?

brookdon
brookdon

3/5 of those guys have missed major time this year. That's why these numbers are skewed.