Knicks outclassed by the Heat

Harris Decker

Carmelo AnthonyLast nights loss to the Miami Heat seemed like a microcosm of the Knicks season. With the game within 4 points a few minutes into the 4th quarter, the Heat really went to work, slowing putting the Knicks away, as they attempted to hang on for dear life.

Dwayne Wade hit a few tough shots and then it was really on. The Knicks fell apart as the Heat opened up a 16-point lead. Tim Hardaway Jr., and Carmelo Anthony did their best to keep the Knicks in the game but when it really mattered, the Heat smothered the Knicks. It felt like the entire season was boiled into 1 game.

In order to beat the Heat, health is essential. The Knicks were without Amare Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert. Both would have been huge against a team like the Heat. Stoudemire could have worked the post, a rare weakness in the Heat defensive scheme and Shumpert likely would have played big minutes on Lebron James, keeping Anthony out of foul trouble.

It was agonizing to watch the team in the 4th quarter. The Heat seem like they are able to score at will from almost anywhere on the court while the Knicks failed to run plays. They continue to play one dimensional offense, letting Anthony or J.R. Smith hold the ball and working off of that isolation play. It worked against the Celtics. Not so much against the Heat. The blowout loss came at the end of a 4-game winning streak. The Knicks will try to get hot again in Milwaukee tomorrow.




35 comments
melo7
melo7

1. Am are played last night

2. Outclassed? Your a joke of a writer

3. We lost cuz of terrible pg play

4. Did you even watch the game it wasn't as much iso as it was Felton dribbling then passing it to Smith or Melo with 3 seconds left on the shot clock

5. You should be Fired

tifoso6
tifoso6

Poor point guard play and a poor coach and that is the whole story.  Miami's defensive rotations were so much better than ours it was funny.    Woodson is not up to this job.  How do you think this team would look with Thibs as the coach.   

bigdishing
bigdishing

"Outclassed"? I am not even sure what that means. 


Here's the story: Last night was a visit into a world that we don't really belong: bball at a high level. 

We have not yet conquered the world of mediocre basketball, beating the Raptors, Sixers, etc. Until we do that, we are not in the same conversation as the Heat and Pacers. "Shumpert would have been huge...." whatever. 


When this season ends in disappointment, as it most certainly will, we'll only look back at this game thinking what might have been. The real difference will be a dozen + losses to bad teams, many of them at home, and by double digits. To me, that's the story of the season. 

rkj473
rkj473

So first Harris writes in the post game write-up "the Knicks are just not a good team." Now he write the Knicks were "outclassed."


So going by your logic it would make sense to conclude the a team that is "not good" would be "outclassed" by the Heat because they are the better team.


Stop posting redundant stuff and get original ideas man. It' pretty sad that  you  take the same story and re-write it with a different headline.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Ummm didn't Amar'e play last night? Or did I imagine it? Shumpert wouldn't have prevented foul trouble for Melo bc Melo had 4 fouls before he even began guarding lebron.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

Well at least Indy got Bynum so the Heat can't get him, Indy can just sit him in the stands because he can't hurt them unless Indy decides to play him or allow him to be a cancer on the team.

lindro88
lindro88

Did he really write about the difference Amare and Shumpert would have made? The Knicks caught the Heat on the wrong night. They've been getting beaten a lot lately, and were not losing last night. Amare and Shumpert wouldn't have made any difference. Shumpert has had a terrible season, besides his big Texas trip. Neither of those two were the difference last night.

ds2488
ds2488

We lost this game because our "pg" play is beyond pathetic and Tyson doesn't protect the rim anymore.  I don't get it with Tyson, when he first game here he was a monster around the rim, contesting every single shot in there.  Now, he almost never even bothers contesting.  


And don't even get me started on our "pg" play.  Ray is undoubtedly not only the worst starting pg in the NBA, but the worst starter in the NBA.  I've never seen a player that gives you so little on both ends of the floor.   

hashburry
hashburry

Knicks don't defend the perimeter.  End of story.

1harris1
1harris1

Did Amar'e reiinjure himself? He did play last night, but only for a few minutes late first quarter/ early second quarter . I don't think he played at all in the second half.

rico
rico

Here's some color for your commentary.


A few things happened this week that made the game what it was for the Heat.


1. The NBA scheduled the Heat to be in NY on the eve of the Super Bowl.  No coincidence.


2. The Heat have been in the city for a few days and have been celebrated (as champs) and have been hobnobbing with the NFL Elite, the celebs, media etc. They are the Champs of Hoops and they were lopping it up in our front yard. Do not underestimate this. They were reminded that they are the champions, no small feat.


3. Owner Pay Riley accompanied the team for this little visit and I'm certain in no uncertain terms he reminded them that they are champs and he expects them to play that way. This was not another sleep walk through Atlanta, Charlotte or Orlando et al.  This was the big stage.


4. Miami is better than the Knicks, in almost every way. They have the best player on the court in Lebron. They have the better supporting cast. They have the confidence of 2 time champs and they believe in their system. 


5. The bizarreness that was going on with Birdman getting like 5 fouls and 1000 free throws in the 3rd quarter was nothing short of bizarre and twilight zone. One poster here called it a fix and I can't argue, though that's not why they lost.


6. If you're watched basketball a while you know teams play up to their opponents and down. When a team is getting sloppy they get sloppy etc. But in the end the great teams may let the game get close but ALWAYS have that "Other gear" to separate and win. 


Just because the Knicks hung around awhile by no means led me to think that Miami didn't have the game in hand. They did from the 2nd quarter on.


You can analyze it, deconstruct it any way you want, call out scapegoats like you do, but the Heat are a better team with the better superstar.


Let's hope maybe their superstar is one day crazy enough to want to "make it here"…


here's hopin



Chris
Chris

Where to start, Chandler not defending the rim, or Ray letting everyone one near him getting to the rim. Woody being completely out coached (again) or Ray holding the ball not being able to penetrate. Playing Amarie minutes when he is not game ready, or not playing KMart who put Shane on his azz stoping the Heat stroll to the rim when he finally played? There are many factors involved in this debacle, but where to start. I know easiest senerio, fire the DACoach

lindro88
lindro88

No one lost a right to anything. You aren't the voice of the fan base, just because you are the most vocal.

lindro88
lindro88

You think he Knicks are in the same class as the Heat? I agree Decker is an abomination as a writer, but let's be realistic. The Knicks are fighting to get into the Wizards class. They'd have zero chance of winning a series against Miami. I'd go so far as to say they'd lose to Miami even if Wade missed the whole series. As for the Pacers....they'd be fortunate to win a game.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@melo7  


1. He did play, just like 5 minutes, no impact except for one bucket.


2. Yes, they were. Miami played at half speed and turned it on when they wanted, excecuted flawlessly when it mattered most, exploited every weakness within Woodson's schemes, and made the team look extremely mediocre.


3. Yes, terrible PG play. When your coach only has 2 defensive schemes, and a great defensive scheme neutralizes both, you're pretty much screwed, now aren't you? And let's not pretend Felton's Chris Paul, and let's not pretend Woodson has tinkered with his offense to help his PG's run the team in a smoother fashion.


4. Everyone was dribbling. The offense was a disaster because of Miami's great D and Woodson's extremely limited vision of the game. 

- By his standards, Melo had his worst game of the season, and his endless turnovers helped Miami have a ton of points in transition. JR and Timmy were the high points offensively. No one else gets a pass. 

- The point you make about the passes to JR and Melo, it's been like that all season long, and Melo bails the team out as much as he can. Yesterday wasn't the case. That's how Woodson's deviced this offense. No turning back, no denying that. A better PG could create for himself and give the offense more variables than Woodson presents, but this isn't the case.


5. It's a blog, we're not expecting expertise analysis. Chill.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@bigdishing  We were outclassed.

Pain and simple.

For a while it seemed like the Knicks could hang around (mostly because Timmy and JR had efficient offensive games), but when it came to get with the program and play serious ball, Miami showed that they're on another level and executed perfectly on both ends, exploiting the multiple flaws this team presents.


- Spo knew perfectly that this team's offense is based on the P&R and isolation sets (in other words, a very simple, one dimensional offense). Trap the P&R and avoid the iso, and bam, you've just neutralized the tremendously basic Knick offense.

- Also, those same smarts saw that the Knicks' defensive "schemes" (because they aren't really that) are very easy to break down and exploit, and he did just that.


Knicks played hard, despite their struggles, and managed to make it look respectable, but when it mattered, they showed the league they're in.

Had Allen made a couple of more threes this could've been an embarassing blowout.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@zdiddy4nyk  

Yes, Popovich won a ring with Stephen Jackson back in the day.  That still didn't stop Pop from cutting Jack last season right before the playoffs. 

By the way, there is also a reason no team offered JR a sizeable contract after winning 6MOY.

bigdishing
bigdishing

@SheSaidSpikeWho  Shumpert would have taken minutes away from Hardaway and JR, both of whom can at least score. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@SheSaidSpikeWho Come on you know it usually takes STATues 4 weeks to get back to his usual self.  Then we can start the criticism of his usual self as being an issue. Then he will get hurt again soon and the cycle starts again,

rkj473
rkj473

@zdiddy4nyk  Also if he was hurting, why did the "coach" keep running him out there for 30+ minutes game after game. It's doesn't make any sense.


Sure the injury could have affected something he did on the basketball court, but making low IQ plays have nothing to do with a surgically repaired knee.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@zdiddy4nyk  

So Smith issues are just because of his injury really?  What about the end of last season and the playoffs?  If you submit "Mental injury" as a defense, I'm with ya playa!

lindro88
lindro88

Half the teams in the league have backup pg's, better than Felton. Not exaggerating. Look what's been going on when starting PGs are getting injured. Teams aren't missing a beat.

sammysauna
sammysauna

@ds2488   Delonte West is playing well and minutes in China. He is somewhat nuts but probably better than Felton at this point. Any takers? Reaching but Felton is so inconsistant.

sammysauna
sammysauna

@zdiddy4nyk  Would be nice if any of the Knicks even tried to hit Tyler rolling to the basket vs Heat. All I remember is one pass to him with the shot clock running down for a rushed jumper attempt. 

melo7
melo7

@xmenreturn uh dumbazz yeah it has a lot to do witht the playoffs because he was INJURED and needed surgery

lindro88
lindro88

Come on Sandro, you are better than this. Dragic is playing at an all star level. They are getting great production from Plumlee and the Morris Brothers. They have beaten Indiana twice, and are a playoff team in the West. Why on earth would they make that knd of trade.

lindro88
lindro88

This is a bad roster. If they want to avoid the disaster of missing the playoffs and watching Denver take our lottery pick, they'll stick with the small lineup. They aren't playing for a ring anymore, they are trying to avoid disaster. The small lineup is the best one this roster has. They need to just focus on beating Milwaukee next game and forget about losing to Miami.

lindro88
lindro88

Wrong. Felton is a liability. I don't care if he was playing for free.

lindro88
lindro88

Lin put up a triple double Saturday night. He's a backup on a top Western team that doesn't need a scoring PG. Whenever Harden sits, Lin goes off. He's twice the player Felton is despite the fact he's not an elite player

rkj473
rkj473

@zdiddy4nyk @rkj473  You cannot use Woody and smart in the same sentence. We all know he has his short comings as a "coach" (I thought he should have been fired weeks ago.) However, it's his duty as a coach to realize that a player is not playing well a restrict some of the things he is doing on the court: whether that is limiting the minutes he plays, or have in situations where he might be successful.


But to watch him struggle for much of the season while the team lost games should have told him something is up and thus limit stuff he does.


Now sure fans overreact when a player is not playing to the level he is capable of and they would go as far to say he is using the injury to make an excuse for his bad play or possibly not wanting to play if his number is called. 


Both JR and Woodson should be blamed for his struggle earlier, simple as that. More blame on the coach for being completely oblivious to the fact the JR wasn't helping the team at that point and kept running him out there.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@zdiddy4nyk @rkj473I would hope that one of them (JR or Woody) would figure out that calling JR name would yield poor decision and poor results most of the time.  If it's all about injury then let the guy heal so that he can be effective as soon as possible so he can really contribute.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@zdiddy4nyk @xmenreturnI hear ya but Rhianna says JR type of injury started at the clubs during the playoffs. Ya think Justin Beiber and his crew egged him there? 

JR has always had talent even before coming here but he is a head case if not checked by the coach or his team.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@zdiddy4nyk @Sandro Guedes  

Any of those measurements has to be taken with a grain of salt.  Guys often grow an inch after coming into the league.  Carmelo's wingspan (7 ft) is also greater than Battier's.  Silly to argue over 1 inch here.  Everyone knows those draft day measurements are innacurate a lot of the times.


Sandro is right - you're fixated on this "small-ball" thing, but the problem is the roster.  It's not built for "big-ball".  It's not built for "small-ball".  Will the team advance far in the playoffs with "small-ball"?  NO.  But this team plays BETTER when they play "small-ball" ....fact!!!