Knicks to work out big man from Morgan State on Wednesday

Keith Schlosser

Despite not having any draft picks in next month’s NBA Draft, there are still potential ways for the Knicks to take advantage of the young talent available.

Of course, New York can always opt to “purchase” a late draft pick via a trade, or, perhaps more conveniently, aim to snatch up a couple of the promising young guns who slip through the cracks and go undrafted (a la NC State’s CJ Leslie, who played for the Knicks in Summer League and training camp last year).

USATSI_7806887_110579513_lowresThere are undoubtedly different possibilities to explore and interesting prospects to keep an eye on. Keeping that in mind, the team will reportedly work out Morgan State big man Ian Chiles on Wednesday (Sportando, May 27).

Unfortunately, Chiles doesn’t exactly jump off the page or stand atop any respectable draft boards being circulated around. What’s more, he failed to stand out at the Portsmouth Invitational Tournament last month (DraftExpress, April 20).

At 7 feet 2 inches tall and 260 pounds, what you see is what you get from Chiles. He can pour the ball into the basket up close and block shots with the best of them. As a senior, he averaged 15.6 points, 6.5 rebounds, 3.0 blocks through 31 contests.

Despite his strengths, Chiles isn’t as agile when running the floor. Still a raw prospect, he doesn’t have the polished dexterity and/or finesse necessary around the hoop, especially considering the skill-set needed by a big man in the triangle offense.

Having said that, size, strength, and physicality are all difficult traits to find in an up and coming prospect in today’s NBA. Perhaps the flashes of potential Chiles has displayed thus far are worth exploring. After all, the Knicks have Summer League, NBA training camp, and D-League basketball to think about.




159 comments
Dullah Dakidd
Dullah Dakidd

I see a lot of people trying to make this Melo Harden Howard thing work...

IT WONT!

All three need their own team to be effective...

All three are Batman...

If you just think about it... Picture it in your head with those three on the floor you would actually really see the dysfunction in the making..

Hell Howard and Harden don't even work then you want to add ANOTHER guy that NEEDS the ball to be effective?

None of them are going to want to defer to the other (as they shouldn't) they are each STARS that SHOULD be competing AGAINST each other...

The HEAT effed up competitive basketball and now everyone wants to team up to form super teams instead of competing and putting in the necessary years and work to achieve greatness they'd rather team up like those 3/4 women in Miami... Its a punk.way out and I don't respect it AT ALL...

cole3244
cole3244

melo isn't going anywhere, here he gets a max, mvp status, isn't asked to play d, gets all the credit and none of the blame, what's not to like for melo.

chudogz1
chudogz1

Melo didn't want to go to Houston a few years ago, so why would he want to go now? Keep dreaming people, he will use them for leverage as we have been used for so often......

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

For those like sandro who want to know why a howard, harden melo trifecta would implode.

1. Dantoni tried melo as a stretch 4 and Melo HATED IT. here is a direct quote: "I'm being asked to do things I've never done before." He was referring to standing outside and jacking 3's.

2. melo, and howard do their best work in the same space, by the rim. Howard and melo would not be a great pnr tandem just like wasn't with harden.

3. Howard will not, repeat, not get the touches he gets now and will whine like an infant.

4. Melo and hardens defense. LOL

5. Melo and Harden are heavy iso players. Their offense will be the equivalent of concrete and super easy to defend ala the portland series.

6. These 3 don't have the maturity level requireddd to alter their games to make it work.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Its funny how when Lebron commits a foul its a big controversy about it. Lol

F@ck the NBA.

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

Missed FT's always come back to bite you...

brookdon
brookdon

Pacers miss 2/3 FT 's. SMH

lobcity1
lobcity1

Finally a foul on Shane Dirttier

johneco
johneco

@Dullah Dakidd  I like your purist outrage.  But no one cares if you think that's how it SHOULD be, these players want to win championships and if that's your goal teaming up with other great players is the easiest way.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@Dullah Dakidd I agree man... I hate Lebron and the cHEAT with all my guts for what they did. What he did was the same as you going to a pick up game and one team pick up ALL the best players just for the sake of winning. I am old school, nothing like that squaring off with the best players like Jordan did. Jordan would never EVER do that. I used to be a Leflop fan but since the Decision I just can't stand his antics, flops, and royalty treatment he and the heat receives from the NBA.

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@Dullah Dakidd  When I get weary of this blog you are one of the posters that keeps me coming back for more. Thanks. lol

theking
theking

@orlando_knickfan  disagree. if you get melo a floor general ala rondo he will come off screens and catch and shoot. is that not what billups did for melo or did they run iso all season long? melo and howard would work but all three wont work

Chris
Chris

@Sandro Guedes Advanced trolling 101or its springtime and I hate Melo. or lets get rid of the PR even if it kills the franchise for another 10 years by Sandy the hater
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1harris1
1harris1

@Marvel  Good luck trading Lin in order to create the necessary cap room.

brookdon
brookdon

Harden and Melo are a horrible fit lol. Couldn't see Melo wanting to go there anyways.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Not if Lance blows in his ear again.

brookdon
brookdon

Case where being unselfish hurts. He had an easy shot at the rim.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Just dont let Bosh do the biting.

Dullah Dakidd
Dullah Dakidd

WORD! What's the point of sports if you take away the essence of it all... COMPETITION!

Dullah Dakidd
Dullah Dakidd

That wasn't INTENTIONAL pairing perse... Boston was just fortunate...

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

I don't disagree here. However, I dont think there is a point guard out there that could make them all happy.

johneco
johneco

@1harris1 @Marvel  You think a heavily under the cap team would mind renting Lin and Asik for one year, if they were also given a #1 pick and maybe another young player?  Think about it, their salaries are actually only half of their cap hit; for a team under the cap it would be a small price to pay.  Plus they are productive bench players at worst.

Dullah Dakidd
Dullah Dakidd

Ainge working his GM job WELL is different from PLAYERS selling out...

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@Dullah Dakidd It was intentional on Ainge's part, not the players.  I hear you.


What I don't respect is a top 7 player wanting to go play with another "superstar".


star players such as a Kyrie irving, or any of the like wanting to play with Melo I would have no problem with.

theking
theking

@Sandro Guedes @johneco  which is why they never attempted to take lin and asik when they been on the block the past few seasons?

1harris1
1harris1

The Lakers are looking for legitimate star talent. I doubt they hinder their ability to do that cap wise by trading for Lin/Asik (even though Asik could be seen as appealing over the long term). That sure as hell isn't what Kobe is looking to play with.

1harris1
1harris1

Exactly. And with luxury tax being what it is, and the salary cap being more restrictive than ever, I don't think it's as easy for them to trade Lin as some people think. They've been reported as trying to deal the guy now for almost a year. So far, no takers.

johneco
johneco

@BigChiefTriangle @johneco @1harris1 @Marvel 

Oh, you're right.  That changes the type of team it would make sense for.  Maybe a deep-pocketed team like the lakers, if they want to preserve their cap space for next year, remain competitive, and pick up a couple assets.

johneco
johneco

@BigChiefTriangle @johneco @VerySilentJay @brookdon 

I don't think it's a foregone conclusion that they can't coexist.  But coaches that can convince their superstars to change their games are few, and in general expecting a combination to succeed based on change is a riskier proposition than one based on a good fit.

theking
theking

@BigChiefTriangle  yea after the game when harden took like 35 shots. the next game they tried to force the ball to howard and ended up losing the game .... that team doesn't have the right balance imo. and yea they won regular season games hell melo won 50 plus games in the west without a second star or a great supporting cast

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@theking @BigChiefTriangle

He complained during the playoffs?  Didn't hear about that.


If he did during the regular season, I don't think an adjustment period for two stars in their first year playing together is anything out of the ordinary...winning more games may also help quell such complaints

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@johneco @BigChiefTriangle @VerySilentJay @brookdon 

Well with respect to the defensive issues, I'm in agreement - as I already mentioned.

And I'm not saying Houston is the best/perfect fit for Carmelo  I simply disagree that it's a foregone conclusion that Harden, Carmelo, and Dwight cannot co-exist offensively.  I believe the right offensive system led by a coach not afraid to guide his best players (not McHale) can accentuate all three players' strengths. 

I'll just agree to disagree with y'all on this one.

theking
theking

@johneco @BigChiefTriangle @VerySilentJay @brookdon  that's why he needs a pg. billups put melo in the right spots and went to the wcf so imagine what a rondo or cp3 type pg will do. harden is all about getting his that's not a good fit imo. now if they are trading harden for llike rondo and green I can see melo wanting to go there to play with howard and rondo.

johneco
johneco

@BigChiefTriangle @VerySilentJay @brookdon  I do think Melo hinders ball movement.  Don't get me wrong, this is true of many great scorers.  But all coaches who have commented on Melo's game always mention he needs to increase his passing to take the next step.  Plus many of the shots he does take are ISOs, which are the opposite of ball movement.  And Harden is very similar.

I think him and Harden are just not compatible.  And it extends to defense, where Harden is horrific, bottom 1% in the whole NBA, and Melo is mediocre.  If you're going to compete with Harden, you need a strong defender almost everywhere else.

The perfect team for Melo would be Chicago, if Rose was healthy.  They're strong enough defensively that his defensive non-excellence wouldn't even be noticed, and on offense they need what he brings.  However, Rose is not healthy, and they don't really have the free cash, so I'm not so worried about them.  Whereas Houston, despite their shortcomings, would be closer to contention than we are. 



BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@theking

The same way any player gets the ball - someone passes it to him?

Dwight's regular season FG attempts/game with the Rockets were in line with his career average, and this post-season he was getting up almost 18 shots/game - more than any other postseason of his career.

theking
theking

If Howard didn't get the ball how would melo?

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@brookdon

Regardless, I just can't imagine Houston's 4th-ranked offense getting worse with Carmelo as a stretch-4. 


Whether or not the Rockets will ever defend - with or without Carmelo - is the larger issue to me.

brookdon
brookdon

I don't think each player will be willing to sacrifice enough for that idealistic office. Each player is too ingrained in their niches for that too happen.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@VerySilentJay @BigChiefTriangle @brookdon

"Ball movement already is an issue with Houston, imagine if a player of similar characteristics came in."


So you think Carmelo's presence hinders ball movement, even if he was playing with this theoretical Houston team (with more potent offensive players around him)?


If McHale is coaching, I think Houston will continue to have problems regardless.   Otherwise, I don't see Harden-Carmelo-Dwight as a horrible offensive fit at all - IF players buy in to their strengths.   There's no reason why Harden can't utilize more high P&R with Dwight or P&P with Carmelo (unguardable).  I don't see why Carmelo couldn't make an adjustment to more of a quick-hitting, catch-shoot weapon with isos and Dwight P&Rs mixed in - all while thriving offensively: 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxqQX2Do6Bw

Now, will the players buy in...that I agree may be questionable.  Bizzarely, Dwight seems to hate a P&R-heavy offense despite being one of the most devastating roll-men in the league.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@BigChiefTriangle @brookdon Ball dominant, high usage, isolation heavy, 20 FGA per game type of players.

I agree, it isn't a good fit.

Ball movement already is an issue with Houston, imagine if a player of similar characteristics came in.

One of those 2 players would have to sacrifice several points and shot attempts per game.


Wouldn't work.