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Knicks trade Ellington, Tyler for Quincy Acy, Travis Outlaw

The Knicks will send Wayne Ellington, Jeremy Tyler and a second-round pick in the 2016 NBA draft to the Kings in exchange for Quincy Acy and Travis Outlaw (Amick, August 6).

New York will pay Outlaw $3 million next season, while the Nets owe him $4 million from his deal that was amnestied in 2011. The Knicks have informed Acy they will guarantee his deal for next season. Acy makes $915,000 (Amick, August 6).

New York has reportedly been trying to deal Ellington, who they acquired in the Tyson Chandler/Raymond Felton-for-Jose Calderon swap earlier this offseason.

Per the report, Sacramento will waive Tyler and use the stretch provision of Ellington to help create salary cap relief.

Acy, a 6-foot-7 small forward, averaged 2.7 points per game in 15 minutes per night last season for the Kings.

Keith Schlosser, Lead Writer

If anyone is looking to point a finger at Phil Jackson for making a bad move thus far, he’s making their job incredibly difficult.

Jackson has followed up the Knicks’ offseason trade with the Mavericks by making smaller but savvy moves along the way. This deal with the Kings is no different.

On the surface, turning Ellington, a player who figured to get little to no minutes while donning orange and blue, into anything more productive, is a plus.

While Outlaw has been plagued with injuries and has otherwise underachieved throughout his career, he still represents a guy who can hop off the bench and potentially score double-figures on a given night. He’s a tough player who can help pace New York’s second unit defensively. If healthy, the swingman could really bolster the the team’s depth.

Over his brief Knicks’ tenure, Tyler displayed good defensive instincts and an unique finesse on the offensive end for a player his size. Following a second straight solid showing at NBA Summer League, there’s no doubt he has potential. That said, his slower progression over the last three seasons raises questions surrounding his overall ceiling. Perhaps the Knicks did not want to wait and find out if things will pan out for him.

Taking Tyler’s spot on the roster will be Acy, an absolute bulldog on defense. He’s as intense and as loud as they can, proving to be an intimidating force down low when he fights for rebounds. Ultimately, he’s a role player who can get down and dirty with just about anyone. He’ll be an instant fan-favorite.

Color this as another one in the win column for Jackson & Co. Such a move doesn’t come with a big splash, but it’s a smart one to make, nonetheless.

Sam Spiegelman

I’m not sure what the motive is for this trade, unless Phil Jackson and Derek Fisher think they can get something out of Acy, which nobody in Sacramento was able to do. Outlaw is a veteran to throw into the mix, but also should not be counted on to add much to the Knicks’ rotation.



448 comments
bkyguy78
bkyguy78

Is Dante Cunningham still on the Twolves?

bkyguy78
bkyguy78

Is Dante Cunningham still on the Twolves?

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

may have to get sirius just for SAS

ESPN may have to put on Ruocco and "Sources"

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

I just want to say I love this blog. I love that we're able to have mature (for the most part lol) conversations about any and every thing. You all are great.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Tim Hardaway Sr and Quentin Richardson to join Detroit Pistons staff. 

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Stephen a making sense right now....I was upset FOR Stephen a...when some in the media made it out as if he's an advocate for domestic violence...smh...ridiculous.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Love deal not so fast????


But as one league source connected to the negotiations said Thursday, what if Golden State emerged with an offer that would finally include coveted shooting guard Klay Thompson in a deal for Love? "Flip will get amnesia real quick about any existing deal," the person said. CBSSports.com -


don't see it happening...but interesting.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

What your seeing with Stephen A...is about the media (not just ESPN)...the media in general...penalize and/or punish people who differ with their point of view.  if you don't parrot what the main stream media news outlets think or say....youre in big trouble.  Freedom on the press?  I beg to differ...good luck to Stephen A....didn't always agree with his stuff on basketball...but always liked to hear his view on things.



Marvel_
Marvel_

SAS had his moments but just because he spoke loud doesn't mean he spoke the truth. Most talking heads are the same , he was slightly different. Nothing special.

knick4life
knick4life

So SAS is leaving and going to Sirius.  Good for him, and now I can listen to ESPN radio and not have to hear his "interesting" take on racial issues and sexual assault. 

brookdon
brookdon

@stephenasmith: My last 2 days on ESPN Radio in NY. Find out why at the top of the hour. Tine into 98.7FM ESPN Radio NY. I'll explain then

knick4life
knick4life

With Love off the table, will be interesting to see what big name free agent the Knicks throw money at next summer. As much as I like Rondo, I wouldn't give him max money.  I would for LA but doubt he leaves Por.  Same with Gasol and Memphis.



The Knicks may have to end up splitting their money between some combination of Jeff Green, Varejao, and Dragic.  May explain why Phil Jackson was exploring trade options this summer and not placing all his eggs in the 2015 FA market.


Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@SheSaidSpikeWho I am glad you feel this way. I always said that I have learned a lot from this blog and it is somewhat addictive. I was suppose to be doing some web based training but nothing has been done so far.. 

I believe that is very important to hear both sides of the coin because both bring different views to the table that otherwise could not be imagined. The negative Nancies and the positive Paulas are very  important to this blog even though one may get annoyed sometimes but needs to be respected and accounted for.... You all have a great day... Gotta to get (back) to work.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@MeloStat301 I don't think he's an advocate for domestic violence at all. He just used the wrong word when he said "provoked". He should have clarified but he really didn't...at all. I don't think they should have let him go or whatever though. I look at it as an opportunity to explore these issues. Perhaps ESPN was not the correct platform to delve so deep.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Dhaman Who said it wasn't just as wrong? No one should put their hands on anybody. Because a woman hits a man doesn't give him the right to hit her back. Go press charges like a woman would do...or nah because that makes a man look "soft". That is a big problem...the way men perceive other men who press charges against a woman for hitting him.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@Mel Brown I agree with you... There is a lot of hypocrisy in our society and these days man have been stripped of their opinion on woman regardless...

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@brookdon I don't like the guy but it is sad that one can be gone because of a statement....

knick4life
knick4life

@brookdon  Not a big fan of SAS but that's a good teaser.  I'm going to listen in.

brookdon
brookdon

I'm hoping for an implosion in Portland that makes LA want to leave. If not it's slim pickings unless we want to max out Gasol. My hope is that Monroe takes the QO and we sign he and Dragic next year

jeandd323
jeandd323

@Dhaman @SheSaidSpikeWho that is mean !
 haha

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@SheSaidSpikeWho @MeloStat301  To be honest with you...what he said was true.  No woman by any means  should have a man put their hands on them and beat them...NO WOMAN..by any means.  BUT...Stephen a..had a point...there are men...if you want to call them that...when getting pushed over the edge...can snap..and unfortunately put their hands on a woman.  There are also men....who beat on their woman, just because they are having a bad day...both are digusting...and shouldn't happen...but it does happen.  If the media wants to act as if it doesn't..thats their problem...but it does.

knick4life
knick4life

@BiggieTKB @knick4life  I doubt they'll ever give him free reign to speak on racial/gender issues again though.  Not sure if he is still on First Take.  I refuse to watch that show anymore.

knick4life
knick4life

@Sandro Guedes @knick4life  That would be the slowest team in the history of the NBA but I see what you are doing with the shot blocking to protect Melo and Dragic's defensive deficiencies.

madskills
madskills

@brookdon Agreed, I'm hoping Monroe and Bledsoe sign the QO. That will at least give us some more options come next summer.

knick4life
knick4life

@brookdon  That would be a nice duo (for less than the max) although I'm not that sold on Monroe.  The guy really doesn't play with any fire and seems to disappear at times.  Hopefully that is just a byproduct of playing for an awful Detroit franchise.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@MeloStat301 @SheSaidSpikeWho I agree. I would never hit a man bc I just believe if you put your hands on someone, expect to get hands put on you lol. It's the reality of the world. It's not right though. People have to take responsibility for their actions and take advantage of the rights afforded to them. 

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Dhaman @SheSaidSpikeWho I agree. Sometimes it is an uphill battle to prove a man raped a woman, also. Especially if that man has money. Men rarely file a rape charge against women not just because it is hard to prove but mostly because of how they will be perceived by other men. I've read/heard men laugh and say it is impossible for a woman to rape a man because 1) a man's strength, 2) what man doesn't want a woman to "rape" him? I've heard comedians say they will line up to go to where women are "raping" men. Men need to erase these notions they have. The system may lean towards women bc of past discrimination and because they/we are the weaker of the two (physically) but the same opportunities are afforded to men...they need to take advantage. And where these inequalities are pronounced, men need to take a stand. The question is will they?

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@SheSaidSpikeWho @MeloStat301  I hear you...but even if my woman were to hit me..I wouldn't put my hands on her,....my father always told me.."you better walk away...leave the house...run..do what you have to do"...some of the best advice he's given me.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@MeloStat301 @SheSaidSpikeWho That's what my parents tell my brothers. And that's exactly what I mean when I say people have to take responsibility. Once someone hits you, there is a big decision to be made. Just like a woman should leave a man if he hits her, so should a man. That's not a healthy relationship. 

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@thatzagoodpoint @Tony Fonseca @Mel Brown I am against violence of any type and in any level, to anyone, including woman, animals, children, but there is no question men have been stripped of their first amendment big time and it is only going to get worse...

Can you imagine if it was Jay Z hitting Beyoncé's sister? He would be in jail forever!!!!

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@thatzagoodpoint @Tony Fonseca @Mel Brown I used to think like you until I went through a divorce and found out that all odds were against me. All you have to realize that domestic violence is both ways and close to 50% and would be higher if men were not ashamed of saying it.

I have nothing against woman but I speak from extensive research done personally.

Men spend their time going to the GYM and looking in the mirror and women spend their time creating alliances and movements in the society to drive their point of view forward. I am not saying that they are wrong but men has not done anything to bring their issues forward and ANYONE who try do that encounters a huge opposition from the society as whole and principally from man like you.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Tony Fonseca @Tony Fonseca  I like your posts bc they are thought provoking. You had a messy DIVORCE and I'm sorry. The government has worked to "make up" for or "remedy" past discrimination against women...just as it has worked to "make up" for or "remedy" past discrimination towards black people with affirmative action. These are things that have to be done. The world is run by men. Men don't take the necessary steps to battle any inequalities they perceive themselves as having (which are very few if any) so where does the blame lie. 


Also, if you had a good lawyer, you would see that a man can get just as much out of a DIVORCE as a woman. I've seen it on many an occasion...particularly instances where it seems like the woman should get the most and ends up with nada. You have to look at it from a historical perspective. 

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@SheSaidSpikeWho @Tony Fonseca I understand the importance of women in our society and in the household. A good proof of that is that I am getting married again. I am glad you girls in this blog are not taking this personally. I believe women are more cerebral, detailed, methodic, and most important they have organizations in the community and at grass root levels that they can and do turn to for support. Men don't have or don't idolize them these days.

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@Knicksgirl35 @Tony Fonseca I respect your opinion and I am glad I was able to stir some conversation on the subject. My point is that any system needs to have checks and balances and the best way to promote that is to start discussions. Right now in my world that I live in I feel that it is one way traffic. Yours may be different..

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Tony Fonseca @SheSaidSpikeWho Congrats on getting married again! Means you believe in love! 


It's an interesting topic. I certainly wouldn't take it personally. I love having conversation where we all can express ourselves and appreciate the different opinions. 

Tony Fonseca
Tony Fonseca

@SheSaidSpikeWho @Tony Fonseca Of course I believe in love. I also believe that life is a learning experience and the considered "bad" experiences help us mature faster. As one of my colleague always says: "in life you win some and you learn some".

Since my experience I have become a better and effective person. For me it is important that we are aware of societal laws, perception and tendencies... Here is a link to a movie that I bought that anyone getting married, thinking about getting married or divorce should watch prior to. It should not be looked in the negative way, it should be viewed for the lessons learned without going through it.

http://www.divorcecorp.com/

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Dhaman @Knicksgirl35 After a woman does those things, the responsibility then falls on the man to make a decision. Knock her out or go file formal charges. Some men prefer to take the knock out route.