Kobe wouldn’t mind playing with Melo; Melo says he ‘loves the snow’

Adam Zagoria

NBA players aren’t allowed to tamper, but Kobe Bryant walked a fine line Sunday afternoon at Madison Square Garden when asked about Carmelo Anthony’s future.

“Well, I mean everybody wants to play in Los Angeles,” said Bryant, whose 61-point Garden outing was eclipsed by Anthony’s 62-point performance Friday against the Charlotte Bobcats. “New York’s a beautiful place, don’t get me wrong but it’s colder than s*** out here.

“It’s palm trees and beaches [in L.A.] obviously are a bit little more appealing,” Bryant said. “If he wants to come for advice later as a friend I’ll be more than happy to give it to him.”

Bryant and Anthony are friends and former Olympic teammates, and there has been widespread speculation that Anthony could opt to join Bryant with the Lakers after he opts out with the Knicks this summer.

Still, a recent Yahoo! Sports column suggested that Chicago could be a more likely landing spot for Anthony this summer than L.A.

Bryant and Anthony chatted it up at halftime, but Anthony wouldn’t give up exactly what they discussed.

“I can’t give y’all everything we talk about, man,” Anthony said. “A lot of times it’s just us quote-unquote shooting the s*** and having fun and just laughing and joking. It’s not always business that we’re talking about, or seriousness, it’s just having fun, laughing and just catching up.”

Asked about the palm trees comment, Anthony said, “I love the snow. I played in Syracuse with it. You get 25 inches, so…”


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.

62 comments
Kenneth Combs
Kenneth Combs

How about Chandler to Toronto for Lowry and derozen and then smith and shump for asik(sp) houstons backup center. It gives houston two players that fit their system and would actually play and gives Toronto a defensive minded vet to help bring along the young players or someone they could trade for youth/ picks before next season. And knicks get much better at pg and sg while not losing much if anything at center.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

I just don't see Melo leaving unless a trade is made with The Clippers so he can team up with CP3. I know Melo and Kobe are tight but Melo is not stupid.  Kobe is not the player he used to be and if both of them are making max money there is no way to build a contender around those 2.  If it was Kobe from 5 or 6 years ago no brainer.  But in 2014 when he's all ready 36 years old and recovering from major injuries?  NOT GOING TO HAPPEN.


Chicago is intriguing.  Thibs is a fantastic coach and if you surround Melo with defensive players that could be similar to AI in Philly.  But you still need some shooters so when Melo is double teamed he has someone who can hit the open jumper.  But even if they amnesty Boozer they would not have enough to give him max or near max and Derrick Rose missed all of last season and only played like 5 or 6 games this year.  Plus, Derrick Rose is not a pass first PG who sets up other people.  He's a ball dominant PG who may have all ready seen his best days because of the injuries.


So to me going to the Clippers in a Melo for Blake swap seems like the only likely scenario.  Otherwise Melo would have to opt into going to either a smaller market team or do something like ring chase in Miami.  Which I guess would be possible but I feel like Melo's rep would take a huge hit.


I think Melo will stay with us.  I think he realizes that we can build a contender starting next year with our cap space.  Woodson will be gone and we'll get a better coach.  As bad as it is right now, if we can keep Melo and our young guys (Shump, Murry, Hardaway and Tyler) and then make some smart FA signings when Chandler, Amare and Bargs come off the books…find a way to trade Felton…trade JR or get his head straight…we could be a dominant team after next season.  I'd love to see Tyler get developed as a legit big man…either really backing up Chandler so Chandler only plays 25 minutes a game tops or eventually take over the starting spot.  He has shown promise.  Get me Jeff Van Gundy, resign Melo (hopefully for a bit of a hometown discount) develop the young players and make some smart FA signings (preferably a good PG) and we're in business.  I'd almost rather we develop a deep team than try to hit a home run with Kevin Love.  You can win with one super star and a deep squad.

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

D’Antoni pegged Hardaway’s “freaking 3-pointers” as the difference in the Lakers game. Hardaway went 4-of-5 from behind the arc and finished with 18 points. The Michigan product wasn’t touted as a terrific 3-point shooter coming out of school — more a scorer, the scouts said — but he has become one. He’s clicking at 40.5 percent from downtown, and has been a lot more dangerous than Iman Shumpert from long range.

Simone Camouche
Simone Camouche

I heard a viscous rumor that Dolan is trying to figure out a way to bring back Isiah Thomas.... If that's true, then there's no doubt in my mind that Melo will leave. 

Kevin_Canrant
Kevin_Canrant

***TALK ABOUT THE DEATH OF A BLOG! 

YEA...lets discuss (2) me first superstars trying to win a ring...sharing (1) basketball...for a coach that knows (0) about defense!

edb7777
edb7777

Just curious if any other knicks fans have noticed the head athletic trainer for the team in the huddles during time outs.  He seems to actually be talking to the team half the time right next to Woodson.  He's more involved in the huddle than half the team and any of the asst coaches.  I swear I saw him pointing at the clipboard and talking several times in the past two games (most notably with about a minute to go in the first half during Melo's 62 game).  Just wondering if anyone else noticed it or is that normal? 

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Kenneth Combs 


I like Lowry but I'm kind of hesitant to go after a guy who is having a good year in a contract year. I think a lot of people want Lowry because he's supposedly available and the Knicks were rumored to be interested. While he's better than Felton, how much better does he make this team? I'm not sure. I think if the Knicks are going to give a lot to get someone like Lowry, they need to make sure they can't get anyone better. 


I like Conley better...I would look into him before Lowry. 

SuperDuper
SuperDuper

@Blaze NYK 

Chicago makes no sense. It like joining the Knicks all over again. Joining an injured all star leaving Melo to carry the Chicago offense by himself. He already has that with Amare and the Knicks. Melo wants help. Unless Chicago is signing another allstar along with Anthony, Chicago makes no sense.

Simone Camouche
Simone Camouche

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK Frankly I still can't see how Shumpert gets as much playing time as he does. He simply does not produce enough to justify him starting, much less getting the minutes he does. 

SuperDuper
SuperDuper

@Simone Camouche 

Melo doesn't hate Isiah as much as you do. Believe it or not, Isiah is a well respected Champion with NBA players. As far as Isiah rumors, as long as Berman and Mitch Lawrence covers the Knicks, there will always be Isiah rumors.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Simone Camouche 

The situation seems very fluid indeed...we can only wait and see how things will flow...

Kenneth Combs
Kenneth Combs

I think you send Smith and Shumpert or Smith and 2018 first rounder throw in beno if needed to make money match for Lowry. Then have Felton as backup point and give Hardaway more minutes.

Kenneth Combs
Kenneth Combs

I think smith and shumpert or smith beno and 2018I pick and have felton as backup point and gives hadaway more playing time.

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Toronto never considered that! It was 2 of 3 Shump,THJR, and 2018 pick!

edb7777
edb7777

@Seth NadlerI think its a bit late to be trading a 1st round pick for a shot at home court advantage.  It seems like a big gamble to me.  I also think keeping Metta might give them a better chance at stealing a playoff series. 

brookdon
brookdon

I know the guy you are talking about (not Roger Hinds, the white guy). He seems cool with all the players but he's just a trainer, he doesn't get into the basketball stuff. I see him always high fiving and talking to players and such but I think the idea of him coaching is a stretch.

Kenneth Combs
Kenneth Combs

It would be an upgrade on defense at pg to help make up for the defensive loss of shump, but Id agree with needing a good defensive wing to pair with Melo.

Kenneth Combs
Kenneth Combs

I thought it would be pretty fair trade but Id throw in the 2018 1st rounder if necessary because I think that knicks team would be contenders now.

Kenneth Combs
Kenneth Combs

I like Conley also but not sure what we have that memphis would give him up for, but it is pretty obvious when feltin plays good knicks usually win so all we need is someone who can be felton on his good days everyday and that is any average or better point guard.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@PimpDaddy @Blaze NYK I agree about Kevin Love.  I meant more of a home run from a PR/Marketing perspective which is what I'm most worried about.  

edb7777
edb7777

@SuperDuper @ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK I think Woodson worries about when he has to go to the bench and rely on just JR.  Having THJ on the bench gives him a better scoring option than shump off the bench.  

sir_manolo
sir_manolo

@Simone Camouche @ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK Yea, I agree. Tim Hardaway Jr. should be starting over Shump, he's the only person on the Knicks since Novak that can come off screens and hit open corner 3's consistently... but I think Woodson's too scared to hurt Shump's psyche any worse than it already is... 

lindro88
lindro88

Are you really that attached to a 2018 draft pick? You know this team is not going to go for a total rebuild.

saintknick
saintknick

@Heartcore @Seth Nadler They'd rather he just leave as a free agent. It's all about whether you want to build a future team around Melo & Lowry. You'll be paying him a lot to lock him in long-term. And I really like Lowry, but he's in a contract year and probably at the peak of his game. I'm tired of being the team that brings in guys like Lowry instead of putting together a plan and getting guys who fit that plan.




donche
donche

@Heartcore @Seth Nadler I agree,Toronto is running the risk of having their player leaving for nothing..why would we abide and hurt ourselves in the process.


You do it for Melo..(not really) but not for Kyle Lowry(his numbers this year is Felton's average career numbers)

lindro88
lindro88

Forget the 3 seed. We just need to avoid the 7 or 8 seed. Lowry is having an all star season. If the Knicks really plan on keeping Melo, trading a 2018 1st rd pick for a guy playing as well as any pg in the a East, is a no brainer.

kneggyknik
kneggyknik

@Seth NadlerStealing a playoff series against the heat or the pacers?  Ha.  Even if the knicks make the playoffs, this is who they would likely face.  Looks like sweeps to me.  Or maybe one heroic win in the garden so we can use some of that confetti budget.

edb7777
edb7777

@PimpDaddyIt just seems odd to have him involved in anything not related to injury.  Even if he's just offering words of encouragement.  Just struck me as odd that he would be in the middle of the huddle during every stoppage.  Kinda underscores the fact that Woody seems to want to make sure he has no replacement alternatives on the bench. 

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@Biggie @Heartcore If he responds to this then I will be surprised... It's all good as far as I am concered. I just wanted him to admit it and we can move on but he kept denying it. Hey sandro sorry to hear about your account. THat is bush league. We can disagree all we waNT BUT THAT IS TOO FAR.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Kenneth Combs 


I proposed a three team trade a few days ago that involved Memphis, Knicks, and Pelicans. Sorry for those that already read it:


Memphis gets either Tyreke Evans or Eric Gordon (NO would like to get rid of one of them and get a legit Center to pair with Anthony Davis).


Pelicans get Tyson and maybe Beno (or Memphis can get Beno or MWP).


Knicks get Conley and take on Prince's contract (which expires in 2015).


Memphis gets a point guard in Evans or a scoring guard in Eric Gordon.


NO gets the center they want.


Knicks get a PG and helps Memphis save some money. 

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Heartcore @SuperDuper @Blaze NYK Boozer would have to be amnestied and they'd have to trade Taj Gibson for an expiring. It can be done but as of now, they are in no position to sign Melo outright.

SuperDuper
SuperDuper

@Heartcore@SuperDuper@Blaze NYK 

I just don't see how Chicago complements Melo to perfection. Melo wants help with the scoring. Chicago doesn't provide that unless you think Rose will jump in and perform at allstar level. Rose shot was not that good coming back from a yr off. It would be a gamble and at this point of his career, I don't think Melo is looking for a gamble. If expectation of joining Amare was too high, what would expectations be joining Rose who will need at least the yr to get back to elite status.

SuperDuper
SuperDuper

@Heartcore@SuperDuper@Blaze NYK 

have you seen their record? Yes they play better defense but offense is just as bad if not worst after their trades. They are not one player away from beating Miami or Indiana. It's the Knicks part 2. injured allstar making ton of money on the bench leaving their other allstar, Melo to do all the scoring while everyone hates and says he can't win in Chicago. Chicago has been trying to get rid of Boozer after two months of signing him. There is not telling how Rose will be after another injured yr. Why would Melo want to take that chance after having Amare.


Then you have rumors of Thibs leaving or getting fired. Again, why would Melo want to go to that situation.

edb7777
edb7777

@Heartcore @edb7777 @Blaze NYK That's what the kmarts, Aldrich's and Tylers of the world are for.  I think it could work.  If you take some of the rebounding pressure of melo it might also help his defense.  I mean if Bargnani rebounded this team would not have looked anywhere near as bad.  

edb7777
edb7777

@Blaze NYK @PimpDaddy I think Kevin Love would be a great complement to Melo.  He spaces the floor and rebounds.  He has the same problem as Melo with never playing with anyone else great.  Rubio misses too much time and it gets him really out of sync when he is in.  I wouldn't get too worked up about the win totals as they are in a pretty stacked division.

saintknick
saintknick

@Heartcore @saintknick @Seth Nadler 


Who knows what could happen. Last season you had guys like Lowry (but younger) sign for 9 mil or around there (teague, collison, jennings).


This free agency, as far as unrestricted, you have bledsoe, lowry, Isaiah Thomas, and then guys like chalmers etc. Lowry is probably looking at around 9 mil.


Could the knicks promise him 9 mil? Felton stays a backup, beno goes to toronto. IF you could find a home for JR Smith, that would give the knicks a chance at having....


PG: Lowry / felton

SG: Shump / ThJR / Murray

SF: Melo /

PF: no one / Tyler

C: no one 


And only $40 of cap spent. That should leave about 20 mil to pay for whoever you want in 2015 - PLUS you'll have your first rounder in 2015 to, hopefully, fill out a bit. Ignore the PG (rondo, dragic) FA from that year. Focusing on C/PF...


Aldrich

K. Love

M. Gasol

Asik

Hibbert

Jefferson

Jordan


So you could legitimately walk into 2015 with a team of Lowry, Shump, Melo, Jeremy Tyler/Rookie, Marc Gasol. 


If you don't trade for Lowry, then the difference is the team has almost 30 mil to spend in 2015...


In that scenario, you would have to land two WELL PRICED big deal FA's instead of just one, and one of them needs to be a PG unless you drafted a stud in 2015. 


The PG options are Bledsoe, Dragic, Rondo, then maybe a few lesser value guys. If you are paying Gasol 18 mil, and Melo 25, will one of those 3 guys take 8-9 mil like Lowry would?


CONCLUSION - if the goal is to sign a FA in 2015, trading for lowry, giving up anything but whatever core you want to end next season, puts you in a better position. But if Lowry is going to go back to being good but not one of the best, you could make the team so much less attractive in 2015.


This is the first season where Lowry is an obvious upgrade to felton - and its in lowry's contract year, and based on a big uptick in 3pt shooting. That would worry me, as far as committing my future. 






saintknick
saintknick

@lindro88 Contract year. Are the knicks winning it this season even with lowry? Even if everything goes right, it takes at least a season to jell with a new PG. And you would be taking a major gamble paying Lowry the money he can get on the open market. If he does extend, then this is the team - its built for a while (unless Melo leaves). 


Its probably just a rental, in which case you are trading away future value for current hype - like I said, not enough time left to get a team to gel enough to beat the top 4 teams in the NBA in a 7 game series. 

edb7777
edb7777

@PimpDaddy @brookdon No definitely Roger Hinds.  As Pimp Daddy noted he's in charge of the clip board apparently.  With a lot of Knicks snoozers this season I guess I've been paying a lot more attention to timeouts to see who's in the game and who's tuned woodson out.  Also, I kinda feel like there's a 20% chance Woody and JR throw down at some point this season.