Larry Brown: ‘Wrong’ for Knicks to talk to Jackson, potential coaches; Woodson responds to reports (UPDATED)

Adam Zagoria, Team Reporter

Larry Brown is a friend and mentor to Mike Woodson, so he understandably will defend him at every opportunity.

When Brown learned that Knicks GM Steve Mills had reached out to Phil Jackson, he didn’t think it was right.

“I spoke to Woody today and why was Phil Jackson talking to them? They got a coach,” Brown, the current SMU and former Knicks coach, told SNY.tv’s The Knicks blog by phone. “Woody’s just going to do his job I’m sure. But that’s not right.

“Woody’s got a relationship with Mr. Dolan, I can’t believe that he’d have done that.”

He added: “Things like that happen in the NBA, it happened to me twice.”

USATSI_7777548_110579513_lowresIt’s unclear if the Knicks are interested in Jackson coming to New York to be the GM or the coach, but it’s hard to imagine him reporting to Mills if he ever came to the Knicks. Brown said Jackson would likely want complete organizational control and would only want to report to owner Jim Dolan.

“Jackson’s not going to take that job unless they give him all the money and complete control, I don’t think,” Brown said. “I don’t want to speak for him. But they got a coach. Mike’s the coach. And I spoke to him today. He’s a resilient guy. He’s going to do the best he can.”

The Knicks enter tonight’s game against the Utah Jazz 5 1/2 games back of the No. 8 seed in the East, and the widespread perception in New York is that Woodson won’t return as the coach next season. Many wonder why Dolan hasn’t put him out of his misery already.

“As I sit here today I’m the coach of the New York Knicks and I’m not going to entertain anything about Phil,” Woodson said pre-game. “I have a great deal of respect for Phil Jackson but I’m not going to entertain anything about Phil Jackson. My job is to try to get this team to play at a high level and we got a big game tonight against Utah and we gotta get ready to play.”

Neither Mills nor owner Jim Dolan has given Woodson a public show of support and have left Woodson to answer questions about the team’s uncertain future and his questionable status going forward.

“Again guys, I’m the coach of the Knicks,” Woodson said. “To me that means a lot. This is 30 years of me being in the NBA and I enjoy what I do…This has been kind of a rollercoaster ride for our ballclub this year but on the flipside of that is that we still have an opportunity to make the playoffs. Any coach, the only thing you can ask is being able to get in the playoffs.”

Brown insists Woodson will fight until the very end and try to make the Knicks viable.

“Woody’s great,” Brown said. “He’s going to coach and do the best he can. He’s on a one-game winning streak and he’s got a game tonight so I know him. He’ll just keep plugging away.

“But I don’t know how you work for somebody and 1) you know you have a coach and 2) you approach another coach, and that coach would never talk to you,” Brown said. “That doesn’t make sense to me.”

The Knicks didn’t approach Jackson the last time around when there was an opening.

“Why would you talk to the Knicks when you know they have a coach?” Brown said of Jackson.

“But I feel for the players as much as Woody. They’re fighting to make the playoffs. There’s still 20 games left and they’re still trying to win, and I know he’s trying to win. Hopefully, they’ll get some healthy people back and it will work out alright.”


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.




78 comments
chudogz1
chudogz1

Mind ur business Larry... WoodRow has sucked all year. His time is up in NYC

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

On the SAS radio show today Woody said "with all of the injuries and not having 10 bodies for practice sometimes made it hard." 

Well well. 

So what about working on fundamentals:  passing and catching, four on four, defensive shell, boxing out, break your offense down to 3 man games, etc.

His excuses are just like him. They suck.

bb_dot
bb_dot

“Woody’s just going to do his job I’m sure. But that’s not right."


LB is an idiot. If I was running the Knicks I would talk to everybody and their janitor at this point. This coaches-sticking-up-for-coaches nonsense has to stop. If you are terrible at your job, then interviewing other people is fair game, period.

Marvel
Marvel

lmaoooo.. guys mad we talking to phil while woody is the coach,???



y'all are smoking some strong sht


lobcity1
lobcity1

Book it- Phil is coming here for sure. I just know he is.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

I wonder how the team will respond tonight to the hope and possibilities. 

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Tommy Dee @_TommyDee      

Talked about the Phil stuff at length 2 years ago. Talked about it recently. Show Melo the rings. Riley/ Ewing all over again. #knicks


Tommy was on the Phil train...Lol.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Adam Zagoria @AdamZago      

Woodson: "I'm the coach of the Knicks and for me that means a lot...This has been kind of a rollercoaster ride for our ballclub this year."


Adam Zagoria @AdamZagoria      

Woodson: "But on the flipside of that we still have a chance to make the playoffs." #Knicks

cj1786
cj1786

OR maybe the truth is really that the Knicks were talking about a front office role since 1) like the article pointed out, they already have a coach 2) Jackson has strongly suggested that he doesn't really want to coach (especially a team this far from a title) and  3) this is now what is actually being reported.  



MeloStat301
MeloStat301

On Kevin Love telling Tyson to F*** Off...


Jon Krawczynski@APkrawczynski      

For what it's worth, Love and Chandler are buddies going back a long time. Playful banter back and forth.

rgm891
rgm891

So the Utah Jazz??? We will spend more time talking about PJ than the actual game while the Knicks are playing

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Jonah Ballow@jonahballow      

Kenyon Martin is out of his boot but Woodson said he is not ready to do any on-court work yet. Not sure of return. #Knicks 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Now here is what could've actually happened. The press got wind of Mills going to meet with Phil and everypne just ASSumed it was to offer him the coaching job (which could have been a phone question). I believe Mills did not fly all the way there to propose a coaching thing. It was more let's negotiate FO power issues.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Adam Zagoria@AdamZagoria      

Woodson: "I have a great deal of respect for Phil Jackson but I'm not going to entertain anything about Phil Jackson." #Knicks

rico
rico

How come nothing leaks out of the Knicks front office except this?


By the way, like him or not Larry Brown is right.



MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Whoa!


Clyde just said..if PHIL JACKSON CAME AS GM...Clyde would consider coaching..LOL.

rgm891
rgm891

The only positive thing about this whole situation is that Phil hasnt immediately rejected the offer.  Giving decision next week.  I am trying not to get my hopes up but it's just so hard not too.  

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

I am a huge Larry Brown fan but in this case he needed to say no comment.

brookdon
brookdon

It was disrespectful but doing things the right way isn't the Knicks MO

Sandro
Sandro

Dolan got exactly what he wanted:

Knicks fans hoping for a thing that won't happen, while momentarily ignoring the team's record and the Bulls approach to Carmelo.

Now they're saying Jackson will analyze the offer...and will give an answer withing weeks.
Funny how that covers the timeline of that protest thing.

LOL

Oh boy... and we keep falling for it.

bb_dot
bb_dot

@Jerry Gee  There are better assistants than Ewing if it comes to dream scenarios. I understand loyalty but I prefer winning.

Sandro
Sandro

@firebaldy

They're playing Utah. Believe it or not, they're favorites to win this one.

They'll win and people will make a big deal out of it, saying that the roster is highly motivated by the idea of getting Jackson here and will make a push for the playoffs with a 10 game winning streak.

bb_dot
bb_dot

@MeloStat301  How has it been a "rollercoaster", I wonder? Wouldn't that mean we had good stretches as well?

rico
rico

Mills flew out there to get away from freezing new york and the flames of his occupational failures

rico
rico

Did he say that in a "when hell freezes over" kind of way?

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@rgm891 O no, its a PR Move..Phil doesn't even know whats going on..its a protest going on, don't you know

rico
rico

All the coaches have said what Brown said or more.

Sandro
Sandro

@brookdon

"Doing things the right way" would mean Woodson fired months ago, and we wouldn't even be discussing this.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@Sandro  LOL @ you for thinking a protest of 50 fans will bother Dolan...SMH.  It will be a blurb on the bottom of ESPN.


This isn't a PR move...its the reason why he weighing the offer...by the way...decision comes next week.  Not weeks away...protest is the 19th..not next week.

rgm891
rgm891

@Sandro  Lmaoo you aint kidding.  This news has come out at an unique time man. 

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

What makes you think Mark Jackson is leaving the Splash Brothers?

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Sandro @firebaldy  Probably only the players who stand to benefit, meaning the ones who think they will be part of team next year, will play hard. The other slackers will probably tank.

brookdon
brookdon

How long before Knicks fans call him the worst coach ever lol?

rico
rico

Mills probably met with an intern at CAA named Phil Johnson.

This is whacky.

We get NO info from the front office all year and now we have 2 offers, a trip and a "decision" from a guy named Phil" next week..

Smells fishy

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Sandro @brookdon 

If Dolan fired Woody and the team continued to lose, then Dolan is in the hot seat. He has already canned both the GM and coach. He is smarter than that. He keeps Woody in the hot seat and lets him absorb the brunt of the blame.

bb_dot
bb_dot

@Jerry Gee @bb_dot  I didn't know the choice was between Herb and Patrick. You should have clarified that.. hard to read your mind, I thought you were talking about dream scenarios. Patrick being a HOF player means zip for his coaching as he has been learning painfully over the years.


And not sure how much of the cats "winning" should to be attributed to him. Seems like conjecture. Look, all I'm saying is that Ewing has a history of not getting any head coaching jobs even though he has been trying really hard. Maybe there is something to that?

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Triangle offense isn't exactly free flow lol...but its a great way for a wing to attack like Melo...ala Kobe...ala MJ.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Sandro @firebaldy  I said the ones who "think" they might be here next season. If I were an NBA player I would play hard as he(( to big up my worth. Some of these guys are just plain stupid and lazy.

Sandro
Sandro

@firebaldy @Sandro

Phil Jackson said this roster was ish. I don't think he would like to keep anyone besides Melo, and that is if he's willing to operate on a free flow system...so maybe we're going to lose anyway lol.

rico
rico

No matter who he fires, Dolan is the blame recepicle

rgm891
rgm891

@Knicks_Fanatic @Sandro @brookdon  Spot on man.  This has been dolan's plan all along.  To put all the blame on Woodson and to advoid our terrible roster.  We cant improve this offseason, it's going to be impossible.  All I know is that if PJ is hired,  Amar'e is gone lmaoo. Win Win