Last night was painful to watch

Harris Decker

Carmelo AnthonyThere were so many things that stung about last night. It started with the Atlanta Hawks blowing out the Cleveland Cavaliers. As timelines go, we found out that the Hawks had secured the victory just a few minutes before the Knicks started their abysmal tumble towards the nine seed.

The way last nights game ended was indicative of the season. They lost the way they’ve lost the entire season. By playing sloppy with the game on the line. That last few minutes was horrifying to watch and shows the lack of structure in the Mike Woodson system.

While most coaches would have a play drawn up with 12 seconds left on the clock, Woodson relied on what he’s done all season. Clear out and give the ball to Carmelo Anthony. The trouble with this was that the message was not clear.

Raymond Felton dribbled the ball for a few minutes before Anthony basically stole the ball around mid court. This is the product of a system void of discipline. The Knicks had thrived throughout the night running the pick and roll and using J.R. Smith and Iman Shumpert to breakdown defenses. Yet, with the game on the line, Anthony held the ball and hoisted up a less than smooth looking shot.

What more should we have expected?

Woodson doesn’t run through a system. He runs through a player. Even with the ailing shoulder, Anthony took control and there was no one to stop him. You can look to Smith missing a wide open Amare Stoudemire under the basket as the big miss but Anthony’s play in the moments before that were truly hard to watch.

This could be the beginning of the end for the Knicks playoff chances and what a way to go.




133 comments
Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

I was hoping Phil would take a shot at Erik Murphy, but he was claimed by the Jazz, who have a worse record.

Ray Jorge
Ray Jorge

OFF TOPIC: Re viewed the game(DONT ASK ME WHY) Its been well documented that our point guard play is league worst but watching Chandler around the basket is "COMICAL'!  Dude is like a 7' Prigs around the basket. Over & over again he gets rebounds & refuses to score then passes the ball out 30ft away! We lost at least 14 attempts to score because of his lack of offensive skills! How hard is it to snatch a rebound & try to finish strong being 7ft tall??? PHIL PLEASE ...................!!!

tommy2b
tommy2b

Harris did you watch the game?  Melo didn't launch anything

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

I read where Chandler nor STATues stated they didn't know Melo had a anything wrong with his shoulder during the game.  I'm rarely one to defend Woody but if Melo is out telling the media that his shoulder went out several times and that he could put anything on his passers and that is wanted attributed to his turnovers, then Melo is really not the smart player.

He absolutely has to at least let his coach know that so maybe a play could be drawn  up where he is the decoy or at the very least the last resort to get the ball if no one else is open to make a play. 

If no one knew of his injury then it's totally dumb to try to act like you are warrior on the court where your injury is hidden from the coach and then feel free to tell the media about his.  

Ya can't build around this dude! Really!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Phil is like the Godfather. Metta and Odom kissing his ring and asking for another chance. We know what the result of those meetings will ultimately be. Phil: "How about--- no."

rgm891
rgm891

5 games left!!!! The Misery is almost over!

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Has Al Jefferson ever been to the playoffs? Good for him if they finish out this game. 

dagawd
dagawd

Lamar odom to coach the knicks................. Stay tuned for more rumors

dagawd
dagawd

MelO had the physical Pain and the fans had the


Mental Pain

rico
rico

they don't listen to woody when he does draw up plays and they don't buy into his system, unless Phil is watching and has a heart to heart with them before the game.


talented players but not warriors, head cases.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Woodson last play of the game: "Abba Dabba Do Melo. Skittley beep we rock Scoopy do guess what America we love you. Melo." 

moneymitch
moneymitch

last night in the heat twolves game that went to 2 overtimes bron was a decoy and bosh hit a crucial 3.all im saying is pass more.last year we won because we passed.sometimes we overpassed but thats a good thing because it proved there was ball movement

moneymitch
moneymitch

its funny how yall bash jr and the knicks. but the knicks lose a lot of games in the fourth quarter because of melo. melo holds the ball and shoots it every possession. as a member of the knicks why move and cut if i know im not gonna get the ball. melo would rather pull up nd shoot over 2 or 3 people before he pass.sometimes melo could be a decoy for someone else who has the hot hand.

Seth Plaut
Seth Plaut

@Biggie  And I suppose losing to the Cavs without Kyrie, provides historical insight as to what will occur?

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Biggie  Wade is not needed against Woodson's Knicks. They are saving his joints and ligaments for important games. 

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@Ray Jorge  Agree.  And we can still trade Chandler for value in the off season.  STAT has proven his worth and wants to stay here after his contract ends.  Trade Chandler this off season for some young players and keep STAT.  Let Tyler and Cole play Center next year with maybe another big man project.  Chandler has lost his fire but will get value somewhere else.  


STAT is a winner.  Chandler got lucky in a perfect situation with Dallas and then lucked out on a good defensive team (Shump, Jeffries) during Linsanity and rode that clout to a DPOY.  He's been resting on his laurels ever since.  Dude is soft like charmin and has no offensive game.  For as much slack as STAT gets, he never gives up and never stops trying to improve.  The same cannot be said for Chandler.

jeandd323
jeandd323

@xmenreturn  Melo actually botched the play. He took the ball from Felton and decided to go ISO.

We have seen this movie many times. It ends the same way.

Chris
Chris

@xmenreturn  Blowing smoke again. You do know what a one trick pony is right, your posts and Sandros are the most redundant on this site

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@firebaldy Odom hell no,  I could see MWP coming back to add some toughness to this team.  He'll just have to play for a few dollars above the minimum though. 

Chris
Chris

@Knixtradamus  And Your point is? The reality is the Knicks eliminated themselves when they didn`t unload Woody after the playoff debacle last year. They didn`t extend any of the assistants contracts and extended his, telling the whole lot of them they were dead in the water, and the coaching this year showed that to be true. The Nyets had nothing to do with this debacle, it was all self initiated by the FO

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@monaz  

Frazier, Reed, and Ewing are clearly ahead of Melo as the best Knick ever and you could also argue Earl Monroe as well.

rgm891
rgm891

Woody gotta lay off the Scoopy snacks. The execution down the stretch was absolutely a disaster. The amount of blunders was comical at best. Can we make the play anymore obvious that it was for melo. The dude had to come to half court and we still had trouble getting him the ball. Lmao woody is such a bad coach and needs some serious help. How can you constantly make the same mistakes over and over. Pick and roll pick and roll pick and roll. I mean that's all you really got? We must of heard at least 10 times the play was broken up and not ran correctly in the remaining seconds of the closing game through the course of the season. We have no idea how to manage a clock and taking fade away off balance shots. We didn't play with heart last night we played so badly Iq wise that it seems this year was for nothing. No one has grew as a player and our coaching staff never has coached bball before. Everyone needs a fresh start mainly knick fans.

moneymitch
moneymitch

@firebaldy  i dont think the play was designed like that cuz felton had the ball at the top of the key and melo tryna play hero took the ball right out of felton's hand 

Chris
Chris

@jeandd323 @xmenreturn  I am going to assume you can read, I know I am taking a risk on this. There was no p;ay, Stat came late for a pick and  roll, they doubed Melo and he split the trap, as you should. He is playing with a separated shoulder and lost control when he got hit on that shoulder going to the basket. Whose responsibility is this on , the stupid DA coach, not the player, but you aren`t a coach, and obviously know nothing about basketball, so continue to blow smoke

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@jeandd323 @xmenreturn  How the fvck did he TAKE THE BALL from Ray. Ray gave it up. Melo bobbled the ball because they fouled him. 

You Melo haters are some stupid SOB's.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@xmenreturn @firebaldy  Why no to Odom?  I know he's had off court troubles and the Kardashians did a number on him, but if that's past him now, he's still only 34 and a great versatile big.  He'd come here for cheap and knows the triangle.  For a veteran minimum, he'd be a little risk, big reward.  This year I would absolutely not touch him.  But next season?  He might be able to bounce back.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@Sandro Guedes @Knixtradamus  The weird thing about the playoffs is that if we get in, we actually match up best against the 4 best teams.  Miami, Indiana,  chicago and brooklyn.  Bc none of them have super fast PGs.  The two teams we match up worst against are Toronto and Washington.  Surreal.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@Sandro Guedes Might be the first time you're ever hearing this, but I think you're giving the Knicks too much credit.  No one 'fears' them.

dagawd
dagawd

@Knicks_Fanatic In order for melO to be greater he can win a Ring with the knicks or play 10 more years taking the knicks to the finals once and out of the first rnd 8 times along with some All D teams, which will never happen

1harris1
1harris1

@Knicks_Fanatic @monaz I'd also take Bernard King over Melo at the level he was at right before he injured his knee, but I can see where that's debatable.  Of the players I've seen play for the Knicks in their prime, no way that Melo> Ewing. 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@rgm891  Seriously, I think he is either a pothead or an alcoholic and it is affecting his judgement--not to mention he is stupid and stubborn. His eyes are mad yellow --- all the time. I could see if his eyes were bloodshot red from looking at film or something (not happening) but they are yellow. He has a problem of some kind.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@firebaldy @Knicks_Fanatic@Biggie 

I hope not. He did hit 9 threes for us back in the day.

Chris
Chris

@dagawd  You watched those guys play? And you are talking about all hall of fame players, perhaps you should conjecture on MJ Kobe and The big O, and throw in Russ and  Jabbar as to who the best ever is

1harris1
1harris1

@Kiyan Carter It was a more center oriented game back then.  I'll give you that.


The other point you have to make for Melo is that he hasn't exactly been playing for a Pat Riley like coach during the time he's been here.


We'll have to see how it plays out.  I was just responding to the comment made by Monaz that Melo "is the best knick player we've ever had in New York"  Can't say that at this point in time.

dagawd
dagawd

@Kiyan Carter  Aslong as they play basketball u can compare them and Kiyan is MelO's son and Carter is Jayz last name so U got your fav nba players son name and fav rapper last name, Lmao

1harris1
1harris1

@Kiyan Carter I can say it (at the present moment), even though they play different positions.  Ewing was a dominant presence on both ends of the floor.  And Ewing was a game away from winning a championship with a team whose second best player had been bagging groceries a few years before.


I do agree that the story isn't necessarily done with Melo, but no way is he better than Ewing based on what he's done for the Knicks thus far.  And I'm an avowed Melo fan, not a basher. 

dagawd
dagawd

These kids and low basketball i.q fans, don't waste your time with em

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@1harris1  

Frazier, Reed, and Ewing, making multiple All-NBA defensive teams clearly sets them above Melo.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Kiyan Carter Screener didn't come late. Melo rejected it. No matter what the play was, it was not executed well at all. What's nee though?