Melo Calls Celtics Loss ‘A Good Old-Fashioned Ass-Whupping’

Adam Zagoria

Carmelo Anthony didn’t have to think long and hard about describing Sunday’s 114-73 blowout loss to the Boston Celtics.

“Right now there’s just no need for me to try to pinpoint what happened, what went wrong out there. Good old fashioned ass-whupping to me,” Anthony said after scoring 19 points on 5-for-15 shooting in the loss.

He added: “What Boston came here and did, it was an embarrassment. To lose like that on our homecourt, I think everybody should be pissed off. But we move on. Got Cleveland coming up. Tomorrow’s a new day and we go from there.”

The loss in a noon game on Sunday was especially stunning given that the Knicks had won two straight coming in — by a combined 78 points — and Anthony had seemingly discovered a new way to play, sharing the ball and taking fewer shots.

But that style went out the window right away, as Anthony again dominated the ball early and no other Knick aside from Amar’e Stoudemire (17 points) and Metta World Peace (12 points) finished in double-figures, while all five Celtics starters did.

“I wish I could explain it,” said head coach Mike Woodson, whose team has now lost 10 of 12. “I didn’t see this coming in terms of how we played.”

Woodson spoke to the players for an unusually long time after the game and seemed especially despondent when addressing the media.

“Nobody should be happy about watching something like this today,” Woodson said.

Woodson accepted the blame for the loss himself, but his players said it wasn’t his fault.

“You can’t teach effort,” Anthony said. “I know coach. I know what type of guy he is. He’s always going to put it on him, but you can’t teach effort. We’re the guys that’s going out there as a team and not giving him the effort.”

The Knicks dropped to 2-7 on their home court. Since Halloween, seven NBA teams have won as many games at the Garden as the Knicks.

The Knicks are now 0-6 in the orange uniforms, but Anthony said he wouldn’t use that as an excuse, either.

“I’m not a superstitious guys so I won’t blame it on the 12 o’clock game, I won’t blame it on the orange uniforms,” he said. “Regardless, we could’ve lost in the white uniforms today, so it still would’ve been the same thing.”


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.

 

167 comments
ds2488
ds2488

Oh, also gotta give some props to Ujiri in Toronto.  How he managed to get rid of a contract as bad as Rudy Gay without giving up draft picks or taking back bad contracts in return is pretty incredible.  Guy has taken 2 guys with terrible contracts (last year's Bargs who was getting booed by his own fans as well) and somehow gotten rid of them to clear a ton of cap space without giving up draft picks.  Heck he actually gained draft picks.  I guess he still has to pay Novak though for a little bit longer so not entirely clear of them.


I don't know what the Kings were thinking.  They have to realize that Rudy Gay really isn't a good player at this point, especially factoring in the 19 mill he is owed.  Grievis had some value, although probably not as much as people on here seem to think, a little shocking to see him go in a trade for that bad of a contract.  

ds2488
ds2488

I gotta say...Wish we had a coach like Brad Stevens.  I knew he would be good, but this is absolutely shocking what he's doing now.  He's basically taken what was supposed to be a tanking team and turned them into a good one.


Gotta give the guy props for looking at his pg situation, somehow tabbing Jordan Crawford of all people to be the guy while Rondo's out, and have it pay off like this.  Wish our coach would do the same and realize Felton isn't getting the job done and take a look at Shump or Toure Murray there.  


When you look at the talent on Boston, there is no way they should be this good.  But the coach gets the most out of his players and has given the team an identity and schemes to match it.  As a result, the players play hard for him and like and truly respect him.


It seems like the opposite has happened with the Knicks and Woody.  Right now Felton and JR have to be two of the worst players in the NBA, yet they are still cornerstones for us under this coach.  I'd really like to see that priority change and for the coach to realize that Shump, Hardaway, and Bargs should be the 2nd priority after Melo.  

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Raymond heard about the Rondo recruitment and said eff this.

lindro88
lindro88

This is the 4th home game that was over within 10 minutes. Teams don't lose 4 games basically wire to wire all season. Time to shake things up. Regardless of how much is on the coach, he's clearly not getting the message across.

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

Listen guys I know this kid "musgo" is just upset and doesnt know what to do. I am trying to tell him there really is nothing you can do to hurt dolan anyway but he keeps on. So let him vent. He will eventually realize all he can really do is become a FAN-ATIC of another team. But that is it... Let's cut the poor kid some slack. He is effin delerious!!!!!

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

Some people just can't handle the truth when the responsibility lies with them. Fans must speak up and stop spending their hard earned dollars to make others fat when the job is not getting done.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@ds2488 It seems that many are SEVERELY overrating Rudy Gay's overall impact on a team's play (getting caught up in Sportscenter highlights, I guess).  He is a low-effort, inefficient, 1-way chucker that has managed to go many a basketball game without sprinting.  This trade will likely be addition by subtraction for Toronto (and they were already a bad team, so how much is Rudy really "helping" . . . ).  Plus, because the trade was completed prior to Dec. 19, all these pieces the Raptors gained can still be shopped at the deadline, like to some team desperate for PG help <cough>Knicks<cough>.


People talk about Novak's contract like it would be some albatross in 2015; it is a mere $3.7M!!!  It is easier to move $3.7M in a draft pick/rookie package (for the sake of matching salaries) than $11M.  So yes, Ujiri ABSOLUTELY improved his team's flexibility with the Bargnani deal.


(Note how the Dolanites are talking about how the Knicks "won" that deal with Ujiri simply because "they got the best player" in the deal.  This is dumb logic that focuses on individual production and NOT on team impact.  A trade that netted Lowry/Amir Johnson would've made much more basketball sense for the Knicks.  The Knicks paid above-market value for a player that simply has not improved their overall team's performance on the defensive, nor offensive end. Fact.)

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@ds2488 It is not that difficult to trade Rudy Gay at $17 this year and $19 mill next year.  It is not like he traded Amare without taking back a pick.  He took on John Salmons and Chuck Hayes at over $13 mill combine. 


Rudy Gay is an upgrade for the Kings and the best player in the trade...he will be their go to player.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@ds2488 Yours is the most sensible voice on this blog. Thank you for your insight.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@ds2488 Agree...JR should not be a priority right now because he is playing hurt.  Felton has lost his edge from last season.  The problem with Shump and Hardaway is that, neither guys can create shots for themselves or other players, from the SG spot.  Therefore, we would depend on Melo to create even more, if JR and Felton is benched.

zebeto
zebeto

Felton can't hold Rondos jockstrap........dudes garbage.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@SheSaidSpikeWho Some of these players are extremely immature. THE NBA IS A BUSINESS. These guys never seem to get the point that there is zero loyalty in big businesses.

tifoso6
tifoso6

@OLD_KNICK   I disagree.  Here is a simple question.  He won 14 of 16 games at the end

of the season.  Why not use that line-up now.  The guy should be fired.


Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK This is a public forum. Not your little club so don't dismiss me. I will express my opinion however I prefer to do so. You don't have to like it or respond to it--ignore me--I'm good with that.

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo

OK Captain Obvious

Like you have already been told. It is DOLAN DOLAN DOLAN. Blame whoever you want to make you feel better but ya better swallow that load kiddo!

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@BiggieSmalls Ujiri took on Novak (very one dimensional and over-rated), Camby (who is done in the NBA) for a good when healthy Bargnani.  We had to give up something more for them to take on those 2 bad contract.  Bargnani is better than Novak and Camby combined....period!!

buddhabing
buddhabing

Wouldn't be surprised if Felton is hurt again.

lindro88
lindro88

please the Nets are barely an NBA team right now. Was today one of those games you had penciled in as "winnable". Looks like the players are looking at the schedule thinking that way. 18-1 to start a game at home? This team may turn things around, but right now they are one of the 3 or 4 worst teams in the league. They have now been beaten wire to wire 4 times at home. Teams don't do that in a full season. They may have led 2-0 in a couple, but 4 times this season the game was over after 10 minutes. At this point it doesn't matter if it's not all Woodson's fault. He has to go. If the players cared about him, they'd play harder.

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@BiggieSmalls

I got it... Sorry You are right I was trying to help the poor kid. He is officially dismissed until he types something I feel is worthy to respond to. Until then he is on all alone status....

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo


YOU ARE DISMISSED .........

because............

YOU ARE INSIGNIFICANT AND VERY UNIMPORTANT NOT JUST ON THIS BLOG BUT EVERYWHERE

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo

It is not a matter of liking it or not it is just Old and irrelevant...

Again son


YOU ARE INSIGNIFICANT AND VERY UNIMPORTANT NOT JUST ON THIS BLOG BUT EVERYWHERE

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK @woodmusgo I like that. Captain Obvious. If what I say is so "obvious" then why do people still spend bookoo dollars on this sucky team--except for Carmelo that is.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@bockers @BiggieSmalls A pick that could be in the lottery, if Denver falls in the standings and the Knicks continue this sh*tshow.  But hey, just a minor detail to Mr. Smalls.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@El Ponce @zdiddy4nyk @ds2488 That's my point.  Rudy Gay's contract is not Amare or Joe Johnson bad.  It is a moveable contract.  Ujiri did not pull off a miracle to trade Gay. 

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK @woodmusgo Hey I have to admit I really care about how bad the Woody show is getting. The team is depressed and he aint helping. They need a new voice, a new face, a fresh and smart demeanor. This guy's time should be up in NY.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@OLD_KNICK @woodmusgo Public forums are not clubs. As much as some of you guys would like them to be. People pay dues in clubs, people know each others identities in clubs. No one is afraid to be known in a genuine club. OK. I got it. Let's all tell our true identities. I hear crickets again.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK @woodmusgo "YOU ARE INSIGNIFICANT AND VERY UNIMPORTANT NOT JUST ON THIS BLOG BUT EVERYWHERE"


So why do you (ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK aka OLD_KNICK aka DO_DIRTY) keep responding to him? lol

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo

NOT!

You said truth hurts so I responded to that!!! I am not hurt by a damn thing you could type on a blog son.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK @woodmusgo I'm not trying to hurt anybody. I'm trying to save our team's season. Obviously it's not worth giving up spending yall's money. Look that's the only thing Dolan will understand.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@DULLAH_WORLD_PEACE When people learn something that their mind can't actually phantom they act out. That's ok. You guys are human.

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo


I wish I could make you understand how effin INSIGNIFICANT YOU ARE!

You could get your mom and your whole entire family & friends and enemies to stop buy knick shet and you still would NOT make a effin dent into what dolan has or does. Now wake the feck up!!! Or go to sleep it is late. Nothing hurts me and FYI even less hurts DOLAN....

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo

I tried guys but I cant help this kid. He is stuck on stupid & denial!!!

In closing........


YOU ARE UNIMPORTANT & INSIGNIFICANT!!!

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo

Again Captain Obvious.... You aint saying nothing new kiddo. We have all discussed this until we want to vomit. You are on your own I cant help you son.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK I can't be just you and a few others. It has to be a collective of people. The Garden cannot constantly fill up and expect for things to change.

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo


Hey  dopey.... What if I have NEVER bought anything NY Knick related?

Then what Captain Obvious????


Now I will really hear CRICKETS!!!!!!!!!!!!

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

@ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK Corporate dollars? Corporate dollars? If you have ever bought any NY Knick shizz you are contributing to his corporate pockets.

ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK
ENGLBERT_HUMPERDINK

@woodmusgo

Because Obvious it is the corporate dollars that really make DOLAN rich. 


FAN-ATICS dont matter at all. If you were paying attention you would already know this. There is absolutely nothing you can do why???? BECAUSE YOU ARE UNIMPORTANT & INSIGNIFICANT!!!

Is that clear enough for you???