Melo, STAT look forward to speaking with Phil Jackson

Adam Zagoria, Team Reporter

Carmelo Anthony and Amar’e Stoudemire want some zen.

Both said they are looking forward to speaking with Phil Jackson, who will be introduced at a press conference on Tuesday at 11 a.m. at Madison Square Garden.

“Yeah, if he’s coming on board, I’m pretty sure he’s going to want to sit down and talk,” Anthony, who is set to become a free agent this summer, said Friday at practice. “I’m hoping to sit down and just have a conversation. At the end of the day, it’s Phil Jackson, man. I’m pretty sure all you guys would want to have a one-on-one with him. I’m the same.”

Anthony said he hasn’t heard anything official from the Knicks on the Jackson front.

Carmelo Anthony,  Amar'e Stoudemire“Not at all,” he said. “I think you guys know a little bit more than I do as far as when it comes to that, so until something is officially signed then it’s kind of hard to speak on. As players we’re not given details about things like that. We just know it’s out there. It’s a possibility of him coming on board. So when that happens we’ve got to be ready for that.”

Jackson is on record calling the Knicks’ roster “clumsy” and said Anthony and Stoudemire don’t fit well together.

“Stoudemire doesn’t fit together well with Carmelo,” Jackson told HBO’s “Real Sports” in 2012. “Stoudemire’s a really good player. But he’s gotta play in a certain system and a way.  Carmelo has to be a better passer. And the ball can’t stop every time it hits his hands. They need to have someone come in that can kinda blend that group together.”

Anthony said his game has evolved over the years, but wasn’t sure how to address Jackson’s critique.

“Maybe at that time I was shooting the ball a little bit too much,” Anthony said. “I really don’t know what to say or how to respond to those comments. In the Post I’ve heard Phil said some things about me. But I don’t take it personal. I don’t take it no way. At that point he was just another guy who had an opinion. So I didn’t really take it personal.”

Stoudemire, meantime, said he, too, is looking forward to talking with the Zen Master.

“Yeah, I mean, I’m an avid fan of Phil Jackson,” said Stoudemire, whose contract runs through 2015. “He has a winning pedigree that’s unmatched, so to have that type of leadership around would be awesome.

“Without a doubt I would love to sit down and just pick his brain about basketball and what it takes to win and so that’s going to be great for us.”


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.




69 comments
brookdon
brookdon

Press conference Tuesday at 11. It's official!

rgm891
rgm891

11 am. Tuesday Press Conference Book it!!!!!!!

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

OT:


Doesn't Steve Nash saying he wants the money rather than winning hurt him in chances of getting a decent contract??  Its bizzare hed come out and say it...although hes keeping it real, how does a contender pick him up now after saying this??  Obviously he doesn't care if he plays for the heat or the kings...

brookdon
brookdon

Did anyone see the report about Nash admitting the only reason he hasn't retired is for the money? Damn that's bold lol

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

"I’m not going to retire because I want the money. It’s honest. We want honest athletes, but at the same time, you’re going to have people out there saying ‘He’s so greedy. He’s made x amount of money and he has to take this last little bit.’ Yes, I do, have to take that last little bit. I’m sorry if that is frustrating to some but if they were in my shoes they would do exactly the same thing."

-Steve Nash

This is a prime example of whey you can never believe a player when they say it's about winning.  Here is a guy who has never won a thing, who could be a backup at a lot less than $10mil a year on say Miami with a chance to win. Instead he TELLS us it's about the money. Now I applaud his honesty, but I wish athletes would stop about the winning vs. money mantra.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Phil Jakcson deal = $12 million a year....Dolan drove the price down! LOL


Per ESPN.


Also, Kay just said don't be surprised if the Lakers come in and swoop Jackson away. 

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

5 PHIL JACKSON COACHING CANDIDATES:


As the new president of the New York Knicks, Phil Jackson has plenty to do to turn around a franchise that hasn't won a title in 41 years. One of his top priorities will be to figure out who's coaching the team next season. Below, we offer five candidates whom Jackson may turn to: 



Steve Kerr: Kerr won four titles while playing for Jackson and the Bulls. He's intimately familiar with Jackson's triangle offense and has expressed an interest in coaching. The one drawback here is that the Knicks would have a first-year president and first-year coach if Kerr is brought on board. 

Byron Scott: The ex-Laker has 13 years of experience on an NBA bench and is well-respected in coaching circles but you have to wonder if the hiring of Scott will go over well with Knicks management and the team's fan base. 

Brian Shaw: Shaw signed a three-year-deal to coach the Denver Nuggets last spring. So it's unlikely that he ends up on the Knicks' bench. But Shaw has strong ties to Jackson. He won three titles with Jackson as a Laker. And he has an intimate knowledge of the triangle.

Phil Jackson: We know Jackson turned down an offer to coach the Knicks and has expressed no desire to return to the bench. But a source told ESPN LA's Ramona Shelburne last week he is open to the possibility of coaching for a short period of time if it was necessary in a transition for a franchise with championship aspirations. So the possibility of Jackson starting next season on the bench shouldn't be summarily dismissed. 



Mike Woodson: This is the long shot of long shots, given how the season has gone. But until the Knicks officially fire Mike Woodson, the possibility that he ends up coaching the team next year should at least be considered. Woodson and Jackson both have a strong affinity for legendary Knicks coach Red Holzman, so maybe that helps Woodson, who is under contract for next season, state his case to remain on the bench when he gets a chance to talk to Jackson. Also, the Knicks have won five straight and are making a late playoff push. 




rgm891
rgm891

I want to thank Mr. Woodson for one thing.  If it wasn't for this terrible season, I doubt PJ will be part of our organization!!!!

lobcity1
lobcity1

So SAS said that Dolan doesn't want the protest on the 19th which is the reason why he wants to hold off the Phil Jax announcement.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

Hopefully Phil can persuade Melo and Stat to collectively Opt out and take Less 

or Stat to Opt Out and take less and Melo to Opt in for one year. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

OMG Phil still hasn't reached out to Melo?  WOW That's so revealing! 

As for STATues, he should already have figured out that Phil has huge marker on his calendar for when he is out from that crazy mac contract. STATues talking to Phil is like Woody talking to him. 

rgm891
rgm891

@Jerry Gee  Yeah man ST John's blew it yesterday also to make the big dance.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Carl hill

SAS is giving the story to him.

rgm891
rgm891

@brookdon Haha yeah man Orlando just hooked us up with that.  Insane.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Orlando_knickfan

I would never take less $ and i will milk the NBA as long as i can if i was a player. Now what i wont do is never stop competing and stop caring bc i got my money like Eddy Curry, Eric Gordan, & Bargs.

brookdon
brookdon

As fans we can't kill them for it either. If my boss wanted to overpay me, I'd take it no questions asked and you're a hypocrite if you said otherwise.

rgm891
rgm891

@MeloStat301 ESPN has to be joking. How is Woodson even on the list.  Ultimate trolls

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@rgm891  That's a great point.

His pathetic coaching led Dolan to take serious measures.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Jerry Gee  Knicks don't do "matinees".


In any case, imo, it's a must win given our schedule in April.

rgm891
rgm891

@OLDKNICK The main point of the protest was this simple fact of Dolan giving up bball power.  It has been done.  Whatelse is there to protest again?  Fire Woodson.  That's happening already. CAA to much power?  Already done with the signing of PJ.  This is going to be a celebration not a protest.

rgm891
rgm891

Hahaha exactly man.  Dolan's plan all along.

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

@brookdon  I agree, but comparing going from $75K to say $82K is a lot different than going from $10mil to 6$ mil.  What a hard pill to swallow for a guy who has made over $110,000,000 in his career.

My heart really bleeds.

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

@thatsagoodpoint It's so funny because Lebron, Wade, Bosh are lauded about taking less, but it wasn't even that much in the grand scheme of things.  They only discounted MIA about $2.5mil per year. To me, if they sacrificed like $5 per, that would say something.

However, to be fair, they did take less back then, but this is why I doubt they do it again to get Melo in there.

lobcity1
lobcity1

thatsagoodpoint.

Dolan has his geniuses over there that knows how to handle ish like this. If he continues to wait then most likely holding would be the best idea.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Jerry.

This should be ppl attitude about everything in life. Stand up and not let a scum like Dolan exploit fans.

I hope more ppl would protest ObamaCare.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Rgm891...

No we want him gone!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint @xmenreturnNo such thing! Phil is not the property of another team. He can speak to anyone on the Knicks team Dolan allows him to.  This is what makes this so bad for Melo.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Jerry Gee @xmenreturnLMAO!  You're delusional!  This speaks volumes man!  Melo has to know this. He is being lumped in just like everyone else even when he has an opt out.

Melo has to know that Phil didn't come here for him period.

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

@thatsagoodpoint Wade won't opt out I think. Lebron IS GOING to get a full max.  Riley has to hope Bosh signs with a team under the apron for a S&T, but I do think Bosh gets max money from CHI IF Melo stays.

rgm891
rgm891

@thatsagoodpoint @rgm891@MeloStat301 Phil would see it as a decoy in his coaching deficiencies and attack Woodsons weaknesses.  At least I hope. haha.  I really want no part of him here next season.

lobcity1
lobcity1

rgm891.

If it doesn't make dollars it doesn't make sense..

Take away his money by not buying tickets etc..and he will be forced to give up MSG. If he doesn't want to give it up he will be forced by state senators and other high power officials if the MSG is not making bc they rely on MSG stock. Dolan don't run NY.

rgm891
rgm891

@lobcity I don't care who's protesting against me I would never sell the Knicks if I was Dolan. Making so much money and only going to grow. Would u sell the Knicks if u were in Dolan's shoes?

lobcity1
lobcity1

rgm891.

I refuse to believe that bc the fans show how much power they have by forcing Dolan to bring in Phil and give up control. Think about all the things fans could do and change...We can do ALOT.

rgm891
rgm891

@lobcity I understand your point. But again Dolan is not selling the Knicks.  No point in wasting your time and effort protesting against a cause that will never happen.

lobcity1
lobcity1

rgm891.

If hiring Phil is his way of apologizing to fans then the Knicks will always stink under Dolan. I'm sorry i am not that desparate to just accept anything Dolan does and be fooled into thinking a change is coming. I have to see more especially when he charges a crazy amount of $ for Knicks Tickets.

rgm891
rgm891

@lobcity I can understand that for sure man.  Hiring Phil Jackson is by far the best move we can get from egotistical Mr. Dolan.  We know Dolan is not going to say anything.  This was his apology to all of us.  What is done is done.  Even if he did apologize,  will that change anything that happened in the past? Talk is cheap, look at our team especially to the media.  We know Dolan cares about winning and I applaud him for giving up the power for us to succeed.  Took long enough but at least it happened

lobcity1
lobcity1

@rgm891

Getting Phil doesn't make up for a decade of bad Baskeball. I want to see more. He should be on tv apologizing to fans and giving them assurance that he plans on improving this team and willing to do whatever it takes. Hiring Philis not enough.

rgm891
rgm891

@lobcity Have fun protesting getting Jim Dolan to sell the Knicks.  Haha.  This is good enough for me man

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

Its still kind of funny how Phil has been negotiating his contract for the last few weeks but you seem to think he should have called Melo to negotiate his before Phil even had one. I could hear Phils assistant now...should we call Melo and tell him about our plans moving forward?? Nah he isnt in the plans lets just not call ever and wait for this to all blow over

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@thatsagoodpoint @xmenreturn@onewhoknix

 True I thought of that as well. However. I would think Phil would want to look Melo in the eyes and say he is his guy and that they will do great things together so see how committed Melo is with things.

An agent can never tell you what you can gather by looking and speaking directly to the player.  

For instance, would you want to speak to Bynum directly or have his agent give you total bull about his commitment? lol


xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@onewhoknix @xmenreturnYou must not if you think a GM or coach negotiating a contract cannot talk to prospective players they deem critical!

Phil does not have to take this job and he surely shouldn't need the money.  Wouldn't it be smart for him to check with the key player to see what his plans are maybe or tell tell him his maybe before inking his signature to the deal?

Otherwise, Phil has signed on without any assurance that Melo wants in or wants to opt out. 

Yes he maybe able to convince Melo his way but why even take that risk if Melo was a must have for his signing? He could have gotten that assurance from Melo himself before he signed on.

What I'm getting at here is that Phil is now the new GM and etc and he and his team will have to perform due diligence be very smart to rebuild this team.

This makes absolutely no good bizness sense unless Melo is not that important to Phil and that takes our team one direction vs another.

Whether you like or dislike Melo, I'm interested in how Phil may opt to go with this team.  That's my interest as a fan now.


onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@xmenreturn @onewhoknix no I have never been near an NBA contract negotiation but please give me more insight on how it works. If Phil calls Melo without even being on NYK payroll, or payroll for any nba team for that matter, that comes off as a little crazy don't you think?

"Coaches and GM gets to speak to players all the time if they need to have some assurance that the key player will be there if they plan to build around or keep that key player."

Coaches and GM's on NBA payroll right meaning they are employed by a team. As of yesterday, Phil was as much a part of the NBA as you and I.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@onewhoknix YIKES Dude., You never been near a contract negotiation have ya? lol

Coaches and GM gets to speak to players all the time if they need to have some assurance that the key player will be there if they plan to build around or keep that key player.

If Melo didn't have the opt out, then this wouldn't be AS important but he does and Phil came onboard without those assurances when he would have easily gotten them if he wanted to.

The pt is to try to figure out what is Phil intention or plans for this team. 

 


onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@OLDKNICK @xmenreturn @thatsagoodpoint thank you. I don't know what Phil is supposed to say..."Hey Melo, I am not part of the Knicks FO but I would like to speak about your contract and what we plan to do moving forward."

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@OLDKNICK @xmenreturn@thatsagoodpoint

 I'm stuck on this because this is one of the biggest decision Phil has to make maybe soon other than a new coach and etc. 

 This decision sets the path for our team and if some of you don't see that, shame on you. There is no magic here but tough decisions. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Jerry Gee @xmenreturn@thatsagoodpoint

Not for me. I am onboard with this but it does not serve well for Melo. 

I see this as maybe forcing Melo to force Phil hands to move him because if he don't opt out, he will not take any less money. 

 Just an interesting set of events that may occur moving forward. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@rgm891 @xmenreturn@OLDKNICK@Jerry GeeA to the Men!

Some of talking about Woody but that's  nonsense since Woody is a goner.

The Melo thing has the potential to get real nasty if Melo forces Phil to move him because he will not take any less money and he thinks Phil does not want to build around him.

Can't wait for this to materialize.

rgm891
rgm891

@xmenreturn @OLDKNICK@Jerry Gee Absolutely agree.  Once we hear the decision regarding Melo and Phil, the dominoes will fall for the better regardless!!!!