NBA exec: ‘Raymond Felton is the worst starting point guard in the NBA’

Adam Zagoria

Raymond Felton may have had a decent game against the Denver Nuggets Friday night, but he isn’t viewed favorably around the NBA.

And that’s putting it politely.

“Felton is the worst starting point guard in the NBA,” one NBA executive, whose team recently played the Knicks, told SNY.tv. “I’d take 10 college point guards and about 30 NBA backups over him right now.”

Felton is ranked No. 48 among 50 point guards, according to CBSSports.com.

USATSI_7677313_110579513_lowresThe Knicks traded their first-round pick in the 2014 NBA Draft to the Nuggets in the Carmelo Anthony deal. Ironically, DraftExpress.com currently has the Nuggets selecting Syracuse freshman point guard Tyler Ennis at No. 9 with that pick.

Syracuse is currently 22-0 and No. 1 in the nation.

“[Ennis] is better than Felton,” one NBA scout said.

Anthony, a Syracuse product, is so enamored with Ennis that he hopes he stays another year at Syracuse which, of course, would prevent him from joining the Nuggets — or any NBA team — next season.

As for Felton, he went for 9 points and 7 assists in a 117-90 rout of the Nuggets, buying him some praise for at least another day.

“Whenever he is finding guys, getting in the lane with penetration, it clearly helps our offense,” Tyson Chandler said of Felton. “Raymond has all of the tools. He has to understand  that his whole team is behind him and we believe him.”

The same can’t be said for the rest of the teams in the NBA.


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.

214 comments
ninotasca
ninotasca

@jblukin @AdamZagoria sometimes you don't need to read the article, the headline tells me everything I need to know (and already knew)

Josh Pacifico
Josh Pacifico

Not all on ray. Dude has been bad this year and there's no denying that. More blame needs to be put on the head coach for these reasons:

1. Unless the backcourt consists of toure/prigs and shump, we CANNOT be picking up full court. It's a waste of energy for ray, it's never effective, and the defense is broken down immediately. Don't know why Woodson continues to urge ray to pickup in the backcourt. 2. Rebounders and inbounders need to start finding Felton immediately. JR should not be taking the ball up the court Ive seen him dribble the ball off his foot one too many times this year. Like Tyson said, knicks offense is most effective when Felton can create off pick and roll, or when they run the double screen foul line extended with one guy fading and big man rolling (they never do it). When defense adjusts, there should be counters. No one can play off the ball when knicks go Melo iso and there are never any off ball screens. Transition game is also nonexistent except when hardaway goes coast to coast. Bottom line is that the coach sucks. He is so stuck in his ways and is incapable of making an in game adjustment (copeland in round 2, refusing to go small until bargs got hurt). We ran mike d out of NY because Melo didn't like him but at least there was a strategy implemented. It's unbelievable what this franchise has done to accommodate the CAA boys. We need JVG back SMMFH

monstah
monstah

Felton is terrible this year - last year he was tough and a leader and this year, he plays like a tired fat guy. Professionals are all about consistency and Felton is NOT consistent. Get rid of him.

tommy2b
tommy2b

And we expect to get Rondo for him... smh

Frank Gebel
Frank Gebel

I cant understand as bad as we are at point and Udroh never sees the court, he is better than Ray and with all our injuries MWP can only get garbage time,unbelievable!

Ruben
Ruben

Trade Felton for anyone else...maybe Felton and cash for Payton Siva and a second round pick

Trade Tyson for Pau Gasol

shai6sense
shai6sense

@SparrowMinded ככה זה שרוב הזמן אתה חושב על מה תכאל ולא על איך תשחק

knickster
knickster

An absolute blow below the belt to a player who has played as hard as anyone else in recent Knicks history.

I'm pretty sure this is all in the writer's mind - anyone can claim his own quotes and opinions are those of "an NBA executive".

Adie Bonan
Adie Bonan

Felton also has very poor defensive habits. He tends to go under a pick and ends up giving up an uncontested jumper to his opponent. He doesn't have the reach to go under a pick and try to block shots. Also, he tends to drop off his guarding man, clearly shown in the Milwaukee game, and ends up giving up another uncontested jump shot. Felton only has the stubborness and ego, which sometimes is important to lead a team, but he doen't have the physique nor the fundamentals to be starting in the NBA. 

Adie Bonan
Adie Bonan

Felton can be agressive at times and possibly pay off, but usually that's not the case. He has absolutely no control nor composure that is so important in a PG position. If you compare to Damian Lillard, you can clearly see the difference. Ray's penetration to the basket tampers his visibilty to see the full court and usually ends up in a too strong of a pass or a desperation shot for himself. You've got a team mate like JR to do that. I would take a top highschool point guard over Felton any day of the week. 

skot
skot

Just some ridiculous comments by some "NBA Executives". I mean if they want to comment like that, why don't they put their names to it. What are they afraid of? Felton hasn't played well this year for whatever reason. But he is capable of playing like he did yesterday and when he does, guys like Ty Lawson don't look that much better than him. Now I have no idea why he doesn't play like that every game, but to say they would take 30 NBA backups and 10 college PGs over him, I hope their owners know that these are the kind of GMs they have on their team. I mean fans are given to the hyperbole, but these are GMs. It is easy to comment anonymously. Their work needs to be evaluated on similar terms...

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

i will say atleast he wanted to play here. he seems to love playing in NY and i do like his enthusiasm but he needs to put in a lot of work since the position does not come natural to him. 

buddhabing
buddhabing

What are the off the court problems they mentioned during the game that may be causing him to be distracted? Tina Cervacio made mention of it but the announcers didn't elaborate.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

he is an undersized 2 guard. he does not have point instincts.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

Metta World Peace: Life's lesson: everything is not perfect according to your wishes. So just enjoy. Whether i play or not , i am enjoying NYC. Twitter @MettaWorldPeace


Here is another media story with anonymous sources saying MWP wants a trade!!


I am sick and tired of hearing what these cowards, who choose to hide their identity, has to say...TRUTH!!

mike23
mike23

I think that is a stretch to say he is the worst starting PG in the NBA but I definitely think the knicks need an upgrade, no doubt. They need a playmaking/assist type pg if they want melo to stay. A guy who makes those around him better with his decision making and knowledge of how to set their player up to best utilize his skills. If they can some how get Rando I think that would be a great move (if he is going to be healthy of course). 

monstah
monstah

@Frank Gebel  I agree about Udroh - and also Pablo almost ALWAYS gets things going with passes and defense and rebounds and just being active!

brookdon
brookdon

Not to mention, NBA executive could mean anything.

zebeto
zebeto

@refguy22 .....dude just has to permanently lose 20 lbs ...and keep it off . ...and it'll bet he"ll be a decent point 


ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

@buddhabing  It's probably girlfriend issues that can mess with your head it did to Wade.I think if Felton plays like yesterday this executive can start eating major portions of crow.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@refguy22 He sure ran a great PnR with Amare (2010-2011) and Chandler (2012-2014).  That is PG skills, my man!!

lindro88
lindro88

Do you think MWP really is happy sitting on the bench for a bad team? He's been through a lot in his life. I guess he's looking at the bright side. Life could be worse than making 7 figures and living in your home town. As a competitive athlete, I'd guess he'd prefer to be playing on a team with championship potential.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@mike23 Exactly!!  It is even worse that this so called GM, thinks there are 30 back up PG in the NBA better than Felton.

knicks
knicks

Actually, you're wrong Zdiddy. It took forever for Felton to get his timing on the pick and roll with Amare (like beginning of December) after a nice "allstar-esque" stretch, he promptly flamed amid trade rumors, injury, and heavy minutes...and we regressed. Then the trade came and the rest is history.

He is and was a mediocre pick and roll player.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@zdiddy4nyk @refguy22  melo runs the pick and roll well too. he's not a point guard either. 

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@SheSaidSpikeWho @zdiddy4nyk So, it wasn't anonymous?  Well. I appreciate that info...Thanks!!  I am cool with his brother coming out and saying it and not just hiding like a coward.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@lindro88 I don't think he is happy or should he be.  I don't like guys on my team, who are happy to be the 2nd fiddle.  I want guys who are pushing the starters and trying to take their jobs.  That is how you get a great team.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@lindro88  Metta should be getting Shumperts minutes. I like Shumpert and wouldn't like to see him traded but he's played his way onto the bench. Meta can provide the defense Shumpert does and score better.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@lindro88 Mario Chalmbers, Phil Pressley, Shelvin Mack, CJ Watson, etc are not better than Felton!!  I don't have the time to name all the guys that felton is better than...

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@refguy22 @zdiddy4nyk Good discussion/debate...I like the fact that you just didn't make a statement, like some on this blog, with no ability to argue your point. 


But, I think Ray has average PG instinct, not great or none.

I will agree to disagree!!!


knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@zdiddy4nyk @refguy22  instincts and gifts---same thing. ray just doesn't have them. he learned how to be a pg--there is a difference. disagree if you like. that's what discussion and debate is all about. it's ok.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@refguy22 CP3, Nash, Kidd, Stockton, Isiah, Magic has PG gifts..not Ray!!

Ray has average PG instinct.  I disagree with your post that stated he has no PG instinct!!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@zdiddy4nyk @refguy22  the article is referring to him NOW. at this present time. instincts are something you don't lose. you can learn to be a point guard and then lose your game but actual instincts stay with you.


instincts: A NATURAL APTITUDE OR GIFT


you telling me ray has point guard gifts?

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@refguy22 A starting PG who has played over 630 games...don't average 6.5 apg without PG instinct. 

Felton was not always this bad at guarding other PG...fact!!

Ray ran the offense very well in NY before the Melo trade...he was averaging about 8 apg.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Necessary Point Guard qualities:


you have to see the court well


game time management


guard other point guards effectively


dribble effectively (not just for no apparent reason)


run the offense in a coherent manner


ray is deficient in those areas. i do believe though that he could possibly be better under a different coach.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@refguy22 Your post stated that Felton has no PG instincts...I respectfully disagree with that statement.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@zdiddy4nyk @refguy22  having the "instincts" to be an overall player doesn't make you a point guard.

zdiddy4nyk
zdiddy4nyk

@SheSaidSpikeWho @zdiddy4nyk

To be honest Woody did disrespect MWP when he put him in the Bucks game with less than a minute to go.

You don't put a vet in games like that unless you ask them...period

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@zdiddy4nyk @SheSaidSpikeWho  


They have been conversing. Artest's brother sent Berman a tweet saying "I called you back". And then this story comes out. Isola has been on it for a while saying that Artest's brother would eventually be an unnamed source. However, Ron's brother is now saying he never said anything about Ron wanting to be traded.


Although, he did tweet this when Woody played Ron for about 30 seconds of garbage time against the heat:


"Mike Woodson disrepected my brother. Plain and simple," tweeted Artest. "Might as well given him a DNP-CD. Dude had a great career, you do this."


"I'm not gonna say fire Woodson. It's not that serious. But if you don't want to play him, trade him. That's all."

OLDKNICK
OLDKNICK

@Sandro @zdiddy4nyk @lindro88  That is real low right sandy? I mean what could be worse? Your wife or girl telling you that you are the 30th best lay she has ever had.. LOL!

Sandro
Sandro

@zdiddy4nyk @lindro88

Chalmers and Watson are better than Felton and Chalmers isn't even a backup. But I agree that there are not 30 backup PG's better than Felton.