Oh Yeah… 2001: Camby and Van Gundy

SNY’s new show, Oh Yeah…, looks back at the night in 2001 when a potential brawl involving Marcus Camby was avoided by Jeff Van Gundy’s sacrifice.

Oh Yeah… takes viewers on a trip down memory lane by re-visiting the most entertaining, offbeat, and perhaps forgotten local sports topics over the past 40 years with each episode devoted to a specific year. New episodes air Sundays at 10 pm on SNY.




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SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Ian Begley @IanBegley

Keep hearing, fwiw, that the Lakers have pushed strongly the idea that L.A. can be "Carmelo's team" once Kobe's contract expires in 2 years.


SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Josh Newman @Joshua_Newman 

One thing I have maintained about Shumpert and I'm sticking with it: Needs a change of scenery, will become a star somewhere else.


When we have no one other than Timmy and JR to guard the other team's best perimeter player, people will realize what Shumpert brings. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

It should be fun to watch LeBron dump Cleveland, not once, but twice!

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA  ·  23m

Within Heat, still confidence they'll keep LeBron James. They know difference between his agent's agenda, and James' strong mind of his own.

BiggieTKB
BiggieTKB

If Philly is feeling Magnanimus why not expand the deal to Stat, Bargs and Timmy for Thad Young?  that sheds about 27 mil which would set us up to offer the full mid level to Pau.. Thad is a good glue guy next to Melo



Kvdaone
Kvdaone

i forever have love for JVG yo

knickfan2
knickfan2

Jeff Van Gundy...true Knick for life. Nice video.

#Knickstape
#Knickstape

Is it me or any time they post up video from SNY it's all screwed up?

petehasglu
petehasglu

Speaking on First Take, ESPN's Stephen A. Smith said the Knicks and Sixers have had conversations about a deal that would send Amare Stoudemire and Iman Shumpert to the Philadelphia. Although what the Sixers would send back isn't clear, it likely wouldn't be much more than a draft pick or non-guaranteed contract player, as the Knicks would do the deal to clear cap space. Newark Star-Ledger - See more at: http://hoopshype.com/rumors.htm#sthash.Re55XlIj.dpuf

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

@SheSaidSpikeWho 

I wouldn't go as far as saying he will become a star, but Shump does need a change.  Shump has and will always be in trade talks.  If last season was any indicator, I really don't know if he is "head strong" enough for NY.  


bb_dot
bb_dot

@SheSaidSpikeWho I don't understand why many here talk as if it is impossible to get another guard who is good at D. I for one do realize what Shumpert brings just as I do realize what he doesn't bring. I think it will be harder to replace Timmy's talent (particularly for the price) than Shump's. Not saying we should stay put after trading/losing Shump. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@DaGawD 

I don't see why Philly would  give up their cap space for STAT and Shump, plus give us a draft pick back. You know what they say, "When something sounds too good to be true, it usually is."

bb_dot
bb_dot

@OLDKNICK LOL. I read that too. I was surprised to hear that the letter was on the website for 4 years! Memo to Gilbert: Too little , too late.

chuco
chuco

Hell yea @jaime what question is that

#Knickstape
#Knickstape

@BiggieTKB i think phil wants to keep bargs as Pau Lite cause we can't really afford Pau.

phenomenal
phenomenal

My only issue with thad is that he aint much of a shooter and doesn't really come off as a smart player to me.  Mad athletic though.... but I think Timmy has a great skill set to play in the triangle (or any system for that matter) cause he could shoot.  Don't wanna start to lose shooting..... which is why i'd be fine if it was stat, bargs, shump for thad and financial freedom. 

FREEEEEEEDOOOMMMMMMMMM!

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Kvdaone I love JVG for all that he did for us in the 90's. The swag, toughness, grit and hard nosed ball he helped maintain in NY.

I'd love to have him here at any sort sort of role.

But we gotta real about a couple of things: He quit on the team. It's that simple. Hell, he's even been public about regretting that decision. This isn't subjective, it's fact.

Also, and seeing how b!tchy and nitpicky a big portion of TKB is, they'd be all over him because of his weak offensive schemes.

bb_dot
bb_dot

@orlando_knickfan LOL. you mean the same Cavs whose owner (in)famously wrote "The Letter" in 2010? Yeah, I want to see that happen...

zebeto
zebeto

@petehasglu  if this deal happens no reason why Melo and Pau arent on the knicks roster next year !

mrdbo
mrdbo

@petehasglu I have had a gut feeling that Phil has a secondary move ready...but this would sound too good to be true. I know Philly needs to meet the minimum salary requirements, but I will not hold my breath on this one. It would also explain why Phil would even reach out to Pau, expecting to able to make him a respectable offer. I cannot wait for the chips to fall!

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@bb_dot @SheSaidSpikeWho I like Hardaway. Have you watched him on D though? 


Who do you suggest we get to replace Shumpert's perimeter defense (he wasn't even used properly on defense with Woody...at all)?

Kvdaone
Kvdaone

@VerySilentJay @Kvdaone  i dont see it like that. I see it like Dolan disrespected him and pissed him off to the point whr it wasnt about the team any more it was about principle and morale as men. i cant get mad at a man who stands his ground to repel ignorance

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@mrdbo @petehasglu 

Philly really doesn't need to meet the minimum salary requirement. There is no penalty. If you pay less than the 90%, you just have to distribute whatever you are under it to the players on your roster. So, in effect, the contracts will automatically adjust upward to meet the 90% figure.

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@SheSaidSpikeWho Once Phil and Derek get take hold of Timmy he'll be okay on defense. He had Woody and crew before so...

phenomenal
phenomenal

Honestly, more than upside, I think THJ is better than Shump right now.  At the very least, Timmy has a smooth jumper, which is a WAY bigger tool in this NBA (whether in the triangle or in a Spursesque system) than what Shump has to offer.

Yes, Shump could be a thrilling defender, but he commits silly fouls and takes dumb chances.

This league is more of a SF league than a SG league so Shump, more fit guarding SGs is already less valuable against the games premier SF scorers who are bigger than him.

Plus, there's shump's injury history already.

Not sure why folks rather throw in Timmy.  Maybe it's thinking he will bring us back more? I dunno

knicksgirl35
knicksgirl35

@bb_dot THjr is young with no serious injuries. He is enthusiastic and not a depressive. He will learn defense. He can shoot lights out. He seems focused on basketball and not on being a rapper. He just seems like more of a winner than Shump to me.

phenomenal
phenomenal

Hmm. I thought there was a penalty. Either way, if i'm am owner/gm and the money will be spent anyway why not try to get some assets in return?  However ppl feel about Shump he is still a young guy with potential, and Amare's contract could yield interesting return at the trade deadline at the very least (taking back a contract from a team eyeing rebuild).  Aint that better than just giving current players under contract more money?

bb_dot
bb_dot

@knicksgirl35 agreed. Shump is a valuable defender but that's about it. He is a very inconsistent shooter and somehow can not convert his athleticism to get to the rim more often. Obviously his injuries play a role here but that's a real problem for him. He often makes wrong decisions with the ball as well. Thinking "triangle" that doesn't bode well. Timmy on the other hand has the potential to become a very valuable triangle player due to his shooting. He is also better in cutting to the basket. He needs to pick up his D but I believe he will. At this juncture I much rather go with Timmy's potential than Shump's game.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@phenomenal 

Shump will be a restricted free agent next year, so he isn't really much of an asset. Perhaps they might want Early, Thanasis, THJ. and/or Larkin. Philly will have many suitors for it's cap space and it won't come cheap.