Phil Jackson believes Knicks can compete in Eastern Conference next season

Phil Jackson said if the team re-signs Carmelo Anthony, they can compete in the East in the 2014-15 season (Begley, June 5).

Jackson said for the Knicks — who don’t have a draft pick or cap room — it’s more about having a “refreshed attitude.”

“I think they call it a beginner mind,” the Knicks president said. “Needs a beginner mind to start over again. In the process to bond together, that’s what teams do that are successful and come back with ‘OK we can do this. We can collectively get ourselves back on the same page, same breath and same idea of selfless behavior, whatever our roles and get out there and play the game that’s competitive.’ There should be ample opportunity for this team to come back into competition next year.”

Keith Schlosser, Lead Writer

Jackson hasn’t made any sudden personnel moves since becoming Knicks’ President, but perhaps that’s for the best. His mentality is on point. For this team, achieving success next season should come down to putting mind over matter.

Entering training camp last fall, one could argue that the Knicks actually did look better on paper than they did the season prior. The likes of Andrea Bargnani, Metta World Peace, Beno Udrih, and Tim Hardaway Jr. all appeared to be talent upgrades over some of the team’s departing players.

Having won 54 games and earned the team’s first Atlantic Division title in nearly two decades, the Knicks were only poised to continue building on such accomplishments.

Of course, looking good on paper isn’t everything, especially when a team removes respected veterans from a locker room. Nevertheless, the Knicks are still a talented bunch.

A new voice (in the form of a new coach under the guidance of Jackson) could undoubtedly be the difference maker here.

The talent is there. A new season will provide the Knicks with a fresh slate to put past struggles behind them. Without much cap space until 2015, the current squad needs to start believing in themselves again. It would certainly appear Jackson does.

Sam Spiegelman

Well, Jackson is right.

It’s easy to compete in the Eastern Conference. It has been since LeBron James was drafted by the Cavaliers.

The best teams include the Derrick Rose-led Bulls, James’ Heat team, Boston’s Big Three and the Detroit Pistons featuring ‘Sheed, Chauncey Billups and Tayshaun Prince.

It today’s East, there are the Heat, which could (potentially) lose Bosh and/or James this summer. There’s Indiana, which could take a step back if they lose Lance Stephenson. There’s Chicago and the question if Rose returns back healthy and if they can add some offense in free agency.

So if ‘Melo returns to the Knicks, the team can easily compete. Jackson needs to upgrade at point guard, and I think that’s really a simple fix to the offense. It didn’t flow well through Raymond Felton last year, but when he was at his best in 2012-13, they were the East’s No. 2 seed. That’s a major difference.




186 comments
MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Derek fisher James dolan already have a relationship:


"Lin finished with 38 points on that February night, including a spin move around Fisher that sent Madison Square Garden into delirium. It was a signature moment for Lin and a night Fisher and the road-weary Lakers would rather forget except for what happened after the game. When the final buzzer sounded, Fisher walked toward the baseline near the Knicks bench and embraced James Dolan."



Fisher and Dolan, the Chairman of Madison Square Garden, have a history dating back to the NBA lockout in 2013 when they sat on opposite sides of the labor negotiations. There were reports that Dolan and late Lakers owner Jerry Buss were visibly annoyed by the hard-line demands of certain owners, including Cleveland’s Dan Gilbert and Phoenix’s Robert Sarver. Fisher found an ally in Dolan, and according to a source, Fisher believes he can be successful working at the Garden with Jackson and under Dolan.

Read more: http://www.nydailynews.com/sports/basketball/knicks/fisher-catch-day-garden-article-1.1816104#ixzz33xJV6UB5

jax13
jax13

I would be ok with dealing shump to okc for a pick. Shump seems to have a lot on his plate not basketball related.

The biggest need we have is a pg, plz get one. I like Blake but I would prefer a collison cause he can break down defenses n defend quick pgs n keep em in front of him.

Shump has a lot of potential but he seems more interested in everything besides improving his game.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

From the article posted by zebeto:


Oklahoma City could also help the Knicks in free agency, as Thunder guards Thabo Sefolosha and Caron Butler are free agents. A lengthy defender, the 6-foot-7 Sefolosha had been the Thunder’s starting shooting guard for the last few years before losing his 3-point marksmanship and falling out of favor with coach Scott Brooks. The defensive specialist was benched for much of the playoffs.

During breakup day, Sefolosha said he had “no clue’’ if he’d be back. He’s known to love Fisher, who could be named the Knicks head coach as soon as next week. The Knicks have their $3.5 million mini-midlevel exception to spend, plus the veteran’s minimum. Their preference in free agency is at point guard (Steve Blake, Patty Mills), but Sefolosha and Butler could fit at the right price.

Ray Jorge
Ray Jorge

Off Topic: I know it's may sound like "Crazy Talk" but watching video of Stats end of year play on realgm.com, Melo & Stat playing well together makes it more the Obvious we need to go all in on a point guard who has "Young Steve Nash" court vision & ability. Pass first pg who can dribble penetrate hit an open shot. Early season Stat looked Horrible but late season Stat was "Beastly" with scrub guard play! I'm so tired of the Charlie Ward-Toney Douglas-Raymond Felton type pg's it's so sickening! If the rumor mill is true were thinking about "Steve Fckn Blake"??? I hate watching Knick pre games & wondering how our opponents point guards are going to torch us & wishing they were on our team. Trade Chandler Hardaway Toure  for Kyrie & fillers. Teach Kyrie the Triangle let Phil bring in Pau Gasol & lets have a fun season till 2015 when Amare & Bargs comes off the books! Your thoughts??? 

Kevin Olenick
Kevin Olenick

To what phil jackson is saying about his upcoming rebuild of his formula, i do not think that our roster can't win. Ny is just a messy team that can't play defense, causes conflicts, and makes the most defensive mistakes ever. even though missing the playoffs eight times, it took dolan idk like every penny to find players and a good coach. he'd been using all the pressure since ewing left. many people around ny have no idea what this team is about. thinking that half of the roster is not part of phil jacksons triangle

Kevin Olenick
Kevin Olenick

to get farther in the conference, the whole team needs to step up.

barnaby87
barnaby87

The big question is who is Phil going to get for guys like Chandler, Shump, Felton, etc. to make this team competitive because I don't think Steve Blake or Pau Gasol can get us to where we need to be.

theking
theking

I would trade chandler for him in a heart beat idc what he does on offense just stand in the paint and block shots

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@zebeto  I think they believe they can snatch PJ Hairston with the 29th pick....Hairston has a more complete offensive game, but I'm not too sure I give up shump for a pick on somebody I "think" will be available...possibly if Hairston is available at 29...knicks will move shump

jeandd323
jeandd323

@Ray Jorge Brilliant idea except hell will freeze over twice  before we get Kyrie for that package

jeandd323
jeandd323

@OLDKNICK Paul George got his team to the playoffs. For  good, bad or indifferent, the Pacers got the ECF finals !  Where did our Knicks go? hmmm Home early !


Fire Woodson !!!!!


Oooops - he is already fired !!


GET US A COACH !!!!



1harris1
1harris1

Wow. Well, if true, I'd say the odds of him becoming the Knick coach are no worse than 70%. I had thought he would favor the Lakers because of his ties to that organization and the fact that he still resides in L.A., but if the Lakers don't want him.........

I doubt he'll come back to play next season. Maybe he would be interested in sitting out for a year and see what options are available after next season, but I suspect the opportunity to work now under Phil may be too good for him to pass up

I thought from the beginning his personality translated better for the Knicks scene than did Kerr's. I'm not too worried about his recent comments as to what his feelings were about NY as a rookie. The guy is a proven leader and winner. I think he'd do well here.

omega_red
omega_red

@illmatix


" it's easier to tone a guy down than to crank a guy up"


that quote from the article sums it up well

HypoCrit_calNYKfans
HypoCrit_calNYKfans

@barnaby87 

Do you know what a focus Shump under Phil Jackson is going to do to Steve Blake?

If you don't know you will know!

lobcity1
lobcity1

B87,

I think the question should be, Why Chris Bosh a PF has a better jumpshot than the Knicks pg Ray Felton.

theking
theking

Wasn't his wife it was his side chick

zebeto
zebeto

@MeloStat301 @zebeto  is a offensive minded SG really that important when we already have Thjr and JR on our roster ???

Chris
Chris

@knowledge @OLDKNICK So the player suffers because the coach stinks? That is perfectly good logic. The NBA is about politics and marketing not ability and fairness. If your myocardium sheath is complete, ponder this. Melo gets the same calls KD gets, We might be looking at a ppg of around 40

barnaby87
barnaby87

@lobcity Felton has a better shot than Rondo does, so that's not saying much my man

Chris
Chris

@lobcity He is a better player, and works harder on his game

barnaby87
barnaby87

@knowledge @barnaby87 Yeah, but we're not THAT much better with them.  We need to figure out a way to pick up draft picks and improve our roster for the long-term.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Mel Brown @theking 

It's probably more fair to say that Hibbert is inconsistent. He is capable of having great games to being the Invisible Man. That type of variable could be attractive to a team that thinks they can straighten his head out. I'd rather not take the chance at that salary. 

jax13
jax13

Exactly.....we need a friggin pg!!!!! Use 3mil on collison, Vasquez, Blake, patty mills.......plz sign a pg.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@zebeto @MeloStat301  He's not only offensive minded, he can defend as well...he isn't thjr by any means...he's 6'5 230..and strong.


Spending most of his time guarding small forwards, like he did at North Carolina, Hairston showed very nice potential defensively this season, particularly early on when he was locked in and really focused on getting stops (something that definitely wavered as the year moved on and the reality of the D-League set in). His excellent wingspan (6-9 ½) and strong frame allows him to play bigger than his just-average height, and he does a very good job of getting over ball-screens thanks to his quick feet and ability to fight through picks. His length and solid instincts serve him well in the passing lanes (1.9 steals per-40, just like at North Carolina) and he'll also come up with the occasional blocked shot for good measure. If Hairston puts his mind to it, he should be able to emerge as a solid defender at both wing spots in the NBA.


From DraftExpress.com http://www.draftexpress.com#ixzz33x9f6YjC
http://www.draftexpress.com


Combine that, with his offensive game...he can flourish in the triangle.


I'm not saying I would give Shump up for him,. but the knicks worked him out...maybe they fell in love with what they saw.

theking
theking

@Mel Brown @Knicks_Fanatic @theking  one thing he does is play defense tho ... chandler doesn't ... teams don't just get to the paint easily when that goof ball is there they just walk in the lane against chandler ...


with a real pg hibbert could be effective  its not like he I weak the dude is strong even tho im not a fan of his I do like how he clogs the paint . look how indy defense looks suspect without hibbert on the court even the great paul George looks average

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic @theking @Mel Brown  that's true but if you are the defensive anchor you tell your squad to stay with their man ... if that is the case felton would get killed all game

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Mel Brown 

One of Hibbert's complaints against Stevenson is that he would steal rebounds to pad his stats. A writer called it friendly fire rebounds;

After Stephenson missed out on the All-Star team, he changed. He started a bit of a personal vendetta against East coaches, wanting to personally send a message in those games, which took him further out of the flow on some nights, sources said. Overall, the team noticed a shift in Stephenson from a more team-oriented approach to a more self-oriented focus, where he started obsessing about his statistics. People within the team believed his upcoming free agency was also a motivating factor for Stephenson, who wanted to enhance his value, something he believed suffered when he didn't get an All-Star nod.
As a result, Stephenson started annoying his teammates at both ends. Not only did he start dominating the ball more — his assist rate dropped dramatically in the second half of the season — but he was robbing numbers from his teammates. He has always had a habit of so-called "stealing rebounds," jumping in front of or over a teammate who had an uncontested rebound to get it for himself. This phenomenon reached a new level in the back half of the regular season. Hibbert, who had his rebound totals heavily analyzed by the media and fans, was often a victim in these friendly-fire rebounds.
Stephenson's act had long worn thin by late March. When the players had meetings to address issues with the sudden struggles, Stephenson sometimes wasn't involved. Occasionally he appeared to be unaware they were even happening. Most players on the team, now that they were losing, shared similar feelings about Stephenson, but did not vocalize their problems publicly.
https://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/their-season-over--the-pacers-now-face-the-questions--do-you-want-lance-stephenson-back---video-062801853.html

theking
theking

@Mel Brown  that's the thing bro ... its melo. lt George or bron have melo stats from last year they would be crowned the greatest of all time but since its melo it get swept under the rug ... that being said I would take hibbert over chandler any day of the week . not that hibbert is great but that  chandler is wack to me and always is hurt come playoff time. just certain ppl I don't want on this team like bargs stat or chandler

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@theking @Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown 

Chandler grew tired of Woody's switching defense and spoke out against it several times, much to Woody's chagrin. Chandler gave up and played the way Woody wanted and that got rid of the switching man. I think we need to see Chandler play for the new coach.

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic @theking @Mel Brown  regardless you get played to play the game. melo got run into the ground and tore his shoulders up but still came to play every game all while taking all the criticism that chandler and stat deserve.


15 mill you should come to play every day idc if the coach has you guarding a pg all game that's what you do

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Mel Brown @Knicks_Fanatic 

I think he could be more aggressive, but you aren't supposed to battle your teammates for boards. If Hibbert is in position, Lance should be heading upcourt. It should be interesting to see if Indy resigns him and for how much.

theking
theking

@Mel Brown @theking  that's true but we can use stats as well or trade something else to get a pg that we need badly. like I said im not a fan of hibbert but if he had a pg like rondo that can get him the ball I see him scoring 15 ppg and getting more board

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@theking @Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown 

Chandler was guarding the PG, so you shouldn't get on his case for not protecting the rim. Chandler won a ring, started on the Olympic team, was DPOY, and a starter in the All-Star game. Let's see how he plays for our new coach and not a fool like Woody. D'Antoni let Chandler run the defense his first year here and we were 5th in defensive efficiency.

theking
theking

@Mel Brown @theking  what do you think we should do mel? hibbert wants out he is def a top 5 center I would take him but that would make the need for a pg more then it is now but still

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@theking @Mel Brown 

I'm not so sure that Hibbert would be a good fit with Melo. He clogs up the paint and wants the ball in the post. That would take away from Melo's ability to bring smaller defenders down low. Chandler is a good fit on the offensive end as he doesn't need the ball to be effective.

theking
theking

@Mel Brown @theking @Knicks_Fanatic  lol get paid im not mad about anyone getting money ... I don't want lance on this team tho if he is a clown in indy imagine what he would do in his hometown lol

theking
theking

@Mel Brown @theking  yea but its no guarantee .. I don't want to sit and wait for 2015 like we did for 2010 and end up overpaying for a stat type player ...

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic @theking @Mel Brown  I don't think so because ppl no chandler is not a threat on offense so the center comes to help ... hibbert at least makes moves in the post and has a lil jumper ... both are over paid but if I had to choose I pick hibbert

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@theking @Knicks_Fanatic @Mel Brown 

Chandler averages 9 ppg for his career and Hibbert 11. Hibbert is terrible shooter for a center hitting only 47% from the field. Chandler hits 58% for his career and 64% as a Knick Chandler is also a better rebounder. 

Having moves and putting the ball in the hoop are mutually exclusive in this case.

theking
theking

@Mel Brown @theking @Knicks_Fanatic  ppl ran Marbury out of town and I don't even think the struggles were his fault ... brown shouldn't have tried to change his game he should have let Marbury be aggressive.


I understand that but artest said himself he is glad the knicks didn't draft him because he would be doing dumb shid with his ppl. ny is a big distraction


and yea he has talent but is it for real talent or is it just talent because he was in a contract year . I want him to play like that every year not just when its time to get paid I don't like players like that , that's y im not big on lowry

theking
theking

@Mel Brown @theking  ooo of course not like I said hibbert is not great but I would take him over chandler ... im sick of lookin at him on this team, he gave up and you don't do that regardless

theking
theking

@Knicks_Fanatic  all on lobs tho ... what does chandler do when his back is to the basket? what does he do when you pass it to him in the lane? like I said I don't want hibbert for his offense I like his defense its better then chandlers regardless of switching