Phil Jackson can impact Carmelo’s future… Just ask Kobe

Harris Decker

During the TKB Podcast, Moke Hamilton and I discussed Phil Jackson at length. One of the debates was whether or not his lack of front office experience scares Knicks fans. The answer we both came up with is a definitive no. Just because you’ve never done something, it does not mean that you can’t.

If there’s one thing I know Phil Jackson can do, it’s win. He’s done it his entire career. As a player, as a coach, and soon, as a member of a front office. Jackson understands winning on a level that most don’t. He doesn’t care about talent, egos or hype. He cares about how much you can contribute to his plan.

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During the aforementioned podcast, we spoke with Eric Pincus of the LA Times. I asked him about the relationship between Jackson and his former superstars Kobe Bryant and Shaquille O’Neal. My question centered around what we can predict for Jackson’s relationship with Carmelo Anthony.

Pincus discussed at great length how Jackson pitted Bryant and O’Neal against each other. Bryant was exuberant, feisty and had a will to win. Shaq was quieter than Kobe, but still wanted big things for the Lakers. Jackson new that with two superstars, he had to take sides. He sided with Shaq and in doing so, drove Bryant to become one of the greatest shooting guards in NBA history.

Jackson understood that Shaq needed to be coddled, while Bryant needed to be pushed. The question becomes, which does Anthony need?

“He gets the big stars to change and embrace the team concept” Pincus said during the interview.

That’s important for a number of reasons, especially because of the decision that will face Carmelo and the Knicks this offseason. Jackson will have a few months in New York to figure out if Anthony can fit into his system, the way Bryant and Shaq did as they developed. If Anthony is not on board, then he will not be a Knick in 2014-15.

On Monday, Anthony had this to say about Jackson: “As long as it’s gonna put me in a position to win, I’m willing to do whatever. I’m not sold or stuck on my play.” That’s a very good sign for Knicks fans who hope Anthony sticks around.

On the eve of Jackson being introduced as the new Knicks’ president, there are more questions than answers.

How will Jackson evaluate the Knicks over their final few games? How will he treat rookies like Tim Hardaway Jr., and Jeremy Tyler and, most importantly, how will his presence impact Anthony’s future with the Knicks? In less than 24 hours, we will start to get some of these answers.




194 comments
xmenreturn
xmenreturn

Unless I'm missing something, when did Phil get a 30 year old so-called superstar who hadn't won anything and build around that guy to win rings?

melo7
melo7

What time is Phil being introduced

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

To all of the haters:

YOU ARE DISMISSED! GO BACK TO YOUR DADDY'S BASEMENT AND PLAY WITH YOUR LITTLE SCHAMMY! EAT SOME FRUITY PEBBLES AND TAKE A DUMP THEN GO BACK TO YOUR BASEMENT HOLE!


THE KING IS ENTERING THE BUILDING!!! LONG LIVE THE KING OF NEW YORK AND HIS NY KNICKERBOCKERS!!! 


dagawd
dagawd

Lmao @ melO learning from Phil


Mayb if he was in his early 20's but at 30 he's going to do what he's been doing his entire career in the nba

Anti_u
Anti_u

Of course the Nuggets beat the Heat & Clippers, but lose to the Hawks. SMH.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

I understand Woody is being sent out to scout the Bermuda Triangle after the season.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb Yep.  That would be cool.  I'm anxious to hear his comments about Chandler and Melo.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb Joe always distressed about our Jets.  He's a true Jets fan though.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb Shut up man! My Jets are waiting to snag all the leftovers!  There's gotta be some good crumbs left! 

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Maybe we just have to catch the bobcats instead of atlanta!

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Anti_u  

The Hawks got the Nuggets on the second night of a back to back, just like they got the Bobcats. Tomorrow the Hawks have to go back to back against the rested Raptors. That will be a tough task.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@carl hill  

Nah, I like both players but don't see the fit with the triangle...when the team's running the triangle, the first thing the PG usually does after crossing halfcourt is pass to the wing and run to the corner (though of course, other options are there based on what the PG reads coming up the floor).

Can't imagine Rondo wanting anything to do with an offense that will put him off the ball so much of the time...

rgm891
rgm891

@carl hill  Isn't his defense terrible?  The pg needs to be able to shoot and defend.  And be able to dribble up the court haha.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb @xmenreturnIt sure is but some people are trying to make Phil something he is not.....He's lord of the rings not The Lord!

rgm891
rgm891

@xmenreturn @akamarb  The Jets are pathetic haha.  I am glad this PJ stuff caught us all by storm or I would be focused on them a bit more.  Not even going to bother with them until I see the final moves.

rgm891
rgm891

@akamarb  the bobcats have 3 more wins over the hawks.  We're like 6 games back from them.  No way we catch them

rgm891
rgm891

@BigChiefTriangle @carl hill  100% nailed it man.  No need to get a max contract pg on board.  Go after Marc Gasol with the money and bring in his brother for the Mini MLE and make him come off the bench.  

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb LOL Yep, you know I'm more interested in the Melo questions, I just threw in Chandler to soften things. lol

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@xmenreturn @akamarb  Don't be a debbie downer, negative nellie or a simple simon. Something good is happening for your NY Knicks.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb @rgm891@xmenreturn 

We're patient man!  We're trying to let this Phil thing die down before we steal the headlines!  Expect a big signing.....sometime. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@akamarb @xmenreturnLOL  Yep she would have a great time watching you pull down Biggie's capri pants.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@rgm891 @BigChiefTriangle @carl hill  

I wouldn't be shocked, honestly...I think the Metta situation was all on Woody, sending one of the team's ring-bearing vets into  the final minute of a blowout next to Toure Murry, smh.  Disrespect.  

Metta's lost too much of a step to be a very good perimeter defender, but he still could have played spot minutes at the 3/4.

rgm891
rgm891

@BigChiefTriangle @carl hill  Haha might as well bring Metta back also.  Imagine he came back and had an impact?  Woodson would look like even more of a fool.

rgm891
rgm891

@BigChiefTriangle @rgm891 @carl hill  100% man.  He may be having somewhat a down season in terms of injuries but he's averaging close to 4 assist a game.  That's so big in the triangle offense especially for a big. Still playing really well.  

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@rgm891 @carl hill  

Marc can also anchor the defense...something Lamarcus won't do to the same degree.  A lot of fans want the "name" player with the 20-10 numbers like Love/Aldridge, but team defensive impact is a big deal.  

Marc can truly impact both sides of the floor with his smarts and communication.


*Marc also gets brownie points for this.  #BasketballNeverStops

rgm891
rgm891

@carl hill @rgm891  The reason I rather target Marc Gasol over Lamarcus Aldrige is because I want Jeremy Tyler to develop and become a nice roster spot at the four.  

rgm891
rgm891

@carl hill @rgm891  Man it will be beautiful to watch. I can totally see this happening.  If PJ does indeed add Pau this summer, it's a given who's going after at 2015.  It's a no brainer for sure.  

rgm891
rgm891

@carl hill @rgm891 @BigChiefTriangle  That would make the transistion to add his brother even easier to this team because he's the perfect post player for the triangle that we need. Phil Jackson Paul Gasol, how can Marc say no?

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@carl hill @BigChiefTriangle 

Lin seems like a good fit for the triangle. He can shoot from deep, pass, and has an adequate handle. At $3-4 million, he would be a good value.  

Maybe Phil will bring him in just to piss Dolan off.

johneco
johneco

@BigChiefTriangle

I agree, Rubio is a pretty good defender.

Rondo is (or at least was) a great defender, one of the best.  Plus one of the best playoff performers in the whole NBA.  But he costs more (although I would say he's worth it).

In any case, neither is a good fit for the triangle, if we go that way.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@VerySilentJay @carl hill @rgm891  

Rubio has more than quick hands on defense - he is one of the best backcourt team/help defenders in the league.

Also, his individual perimeter defensive numbers can look worse relative to other PGs because Love and Pek are two of the absolute worst rim-protectors in the league.

Rubio is a good defender, all things considered.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@carl hill @rgm891  Steals aren't an indicator of how good of a defender you are.

You can have nice awareness and be great at reading the passing lanes.

But he need guards that can get over screens and execute good man on man defense.

Rubio, imo, isn't a good defender.

I'll take Rondo any day of the week.

Tougher dude, takes no sh¨T, and was able to carry a team that had Pierce, KG and Allen all together.

rgm891
rgm891

@carl hill @rgm891  That's def a plus.  How is his man to man defense?  I thought he couldnt defend but I could be wrong