Play Smart, Execute and Move On

Via NY Post

And don’t let petty nonsense get in the way.

Add that to the lesson plan awaiting the Knicks tonight.

“There’s big-time urgency on our part,” Knicks coach Mike Woodson said yesterday after running the Knicks through what he hopes will be the final practice session of the first round. “We played the whole season for this, to be able to close a series out in front of our fans. I’m expecting our guys to step up and play.”

For Woodson, though, there is still an element of the unknown at play here. There are pieces of the Knicks’ puzzle who act like they’ve been there before because they have actually been there before. Jason Kidd and Tyson Chandler won a championship two years ago in Dallas. Kidd and Kenyon Martin went to back-to-back Finals with the Jersey Nets a decade ago.

Tommy Dee

This is where Woodson has to lead and where Melo has to carry the torch. Pace yourself coming out and don’t get caught up in the moment. This is part of the process and another step in the road. The Knicks to a man, not just JR, have to be professional and focused. They know if they played the Celtics for 60 NBA minutes they would win 100% of the time. They need to exert the same patience in the second half of games that they displayed in the first 3 games.

If they do that to a man they will win, the fans can celebrate and they can mark off another goal on the check list.

Most importantly they can get valued rest.

 




78 comments
Zach14
Zach14

This is BS. Let him play!

orange2327
orange2327

@don22-you are delusional! As long as Wang /snow/Cappy are in charge nothing will change!! This talk of great prospects in our system is bunk!! If that were the case we'd be a far better team today than we are!!!

dimaio34
dimaio34

And nothing against cappy. But we need a horse back there. Brent sutter would be ideal. Only thing is he wouldn't put up with wang

dimaio34
dimaio34

Now after this year they need to add a goalie. Looking at Elliot from stlouis also I really like reimer from the leafs. I still want Poulin as back up he's capable. But after saying this we Really missed our window with Schneider. That is a huge trade for the devils. We need a GM like Lou

dimaio34
dimaio34

Play Amac 18 min not 30 hes fried and we r not even at game 50. Never mind the grind if a first round series. If he plays less he will be better. But they have to add a veteran on defence. They will never last a first round series

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hey what do you think if adding Campbell?

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hey orange 2327. I still am looking at it like they can. Just looking forward that's all. Anything can happen

dimaio34
dimaio34

What's going on with anders lee? He's a keeper but not sure if he fits right now. But he should get a long look next year. He's a awesome player. Just hope they give him a chance

dimaio34
dimaio34

I would love to add abdelkader. All purpose and difference maker. Guys like this can change a series. Did anyone see how reinhart played in the juniors. He was awesome played a controlled game. He's should be on the team next year

dimaio34
dimaio34

Here's who I take into the playoffs!!

Tavares VANEK okposo

Neilson bailey Martin

Strome Nelson grabner

Cizikas Clutterbuck abdelkader

Campbell macdonald

Hamonic de haan

Hickey strait

Nabokov

Poulin

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hoping donavon plays mon looking forward to see how his confidence is now after a few games in bridgeport

dimaio34
dimaio34

Pulock is killing it in Brandon getting lots of points

dimaio34
dimaio34

Hey how about adding Campbell from Florida. If they blow this road trip coming up wonder how this team looks after the deadline. I wouldn't trade amac

orange2327
orange2327

@mitchfritz the longer strome goes without scoring the more you do wonder about how good he really is!! The flip side of it if he were playing for a better team on their third line he probably would have scored!! Maybe the better argument is he should not have been called up if the plan was to stick him on a meaningless third line with nelson(who is not that good) and clusterbug/cmac!etc!!!

Don22
Don22

I will ask you again.  Why do you bother?  At least until Charles does sell this team, why do you waste your time?  Why are you watching games if there is nothing to root for?  If you are so skeptical about the young talent on this team then you can no longer root for OK or DeHaan or Hamonic or any other young player that does well.  If you do you are a hypocrite. 


I tried to pay you a compliment that I think you are a great fan and you tell me I'm delusional because I see some talent that I am hopeful can contribute to this team?  



Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

He knows Chuckles, Orange. Or has a friend of a friend that used to play basketball w him - one of those deals. Happy CA New Year, Don! Or is that Rm, or Red, or.....when you see sockpuppets descend on this place after a "significant event" lauding it in every which way, you know that there's major astroturfing that's going on here.

dzruggie
dzruggie

@dimaio34 What we needed was a top 10 pick to get Schnieder - why is that such a difficult concept?????

orange2327
orange2327

Yeah anything can happen like Wang bringing in a real gm/coach!! Wonders abound!!

orange2327
orange2327

What playoff are you talking about???

wmayshays
wmayshays

@dimaio34

Me too.  

I just wish he AND de Haan could both be paired with Hamonic.  

Pairing anyone (esp a young player) with Carkner or AMac is counterproductive. 

wmayshays
wmayshays

@dimaio34 

You have to be excited about the youthful defensive prospects.   It seems like every single one is getting good reviews.  And what I like most is that they're all big and strong.  No more Katic/Ness type players.   Pedan, Mayfield, Reinhart, Pokka,  Pelech, Sumerby, Leduc all big guys that will not get pushed around.  Nore will they be easy to get aroung with their arm reach.  Even Donovan and de Haan are 6' (+) and capable.  Pulock is built like a LBer.  



Bryan Ammirati
Bryan Ammirati

Why not he is our worst defenseman. I don't count carkner because he shouldn't even be playing. A mac does nothing good. Why exactly is he on the power play?

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz

Yeah I still feel that way, though I understand why Strome should be playing center at some point.  I just think he could really grow with JT showing him the way.  Every single guy that plays with JT becomes a better player.  

Plus KO is like a second captain IMO, he should lead an improved second line. 
Put Nelson on the second line.  Spread out the youth, while giving them a good opportunity to succeed and build confidence.


PS. thanks for putting my tag in all caps ;)


Although I couldn't keep my full tag with SNY

dzruggie
dzruggie

@orange2327 No - the more Strome goes without scoring - YOU wonder how good he is.

Don22
Don22

@mitchfritzI don't know that you can really put a number on that.  I think you need to take into consideration his overall game and how he looks out there. For the most part, I don't think Strome has looked out of place.  I think he is doing fine on the 3rd line.  They don't look bad and you can tell Strome is taking it in stride and working hard to get better.  It's easy to say he should be on the 2nd line, but that doesn't mean that would work either - especially since Grabner and Bailey haven't exactly been playing lights out either.  He's getting a solid 13+ minutes a game.  He's going to be fine.


I haven't read the rest of this thread so I don't know if anyone called you names yet.  I will refrain.  LOL.

orange2327
orange2327

Hey Mitch I don't disagree with you!! JT scored in his first game!! Strome is a perimeter player at least now he needs to show he can mix it up in the dirty areas!! Right now I don't the ''elite'' tag for him!!

orangeblue
orangeblue

@mitchfritz his confidence is starting to show, dude.  Did you watch the last game and see him pull off that sweet deke getting into the offensive zone? He would have never tried to pull that off if he wasn't getting comfortable.  Him and Brock will start clicking at some point and it will be for real not a fluke

isles23
isles23

@mitch. How long did it take Giroux to score this year? It happens man, the key now is to see improvement in his play and IMO I have seen that. When Strome gets his first I'm willing to bet more will follow.

Don22
Don22

@Zee ExecutionerYour act is getting old.  I am assuming you are a fan of this team but you can't see anything positive.  You can't enjoy a win.  You can't root for any players because they are all flawed.  Tell me exactly what is your reason for even being here?  Don't start preaching to me how you've been a fan since 72 and are disgusted about how this proud franchise has fallen.  That's BS.  If you were any type of fan of this team you find something to root for.  Instead you come after guys like me that do root for the team and for the players and try to find something good.  You come up with the same rehashed lines about being friends with Chuckie or whatever.  You are nothing more than a troll and I am a fool for engaging in your BS.  I know guys like Orange and Camb don't like me either and can't wrap their heads around why someone would try to find positives in their team - but at least they offer decent hockey insights to these posts.  You offer nothing.  Nothing at all. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Actually, you can add Isles23 formerly known as Matt to the list. Wonder what happened to DAVID ALL CAPS sockpuppet. Kevin or whomever is behind so many of these poster handles, do bring his handle back. His comments were oh so insightful and entertaining!

orange2327
orange2327

Can we send crappy to the glue factory??

camb33
camb33

@orange2327 Uhhhh...Wangs playoffs?! Don't get it twisted, every team makes 'em

orange2327
orange2327

Cmon stop with the prospects stuff!! Its all speculation besides with Wang/snow/crappy its all moot!!! You know it!!

MysteryMachine
MysteryMachine

@rmreturns All good comments but Strome does not appear to have nearly the same talent as Tavares (at least in my opinion from admittedly a very limited number of games). Tavares scored in his first NHL game and showed glimpses from day one.  Yes he went through some rough patches in his first season but also was surrounded by arguably worse players and a different coach.  Tavares had also just turned 19 when he began his career while Strome was 20.5 when he made his debut.  Nonetheless, you are correct that it may take a few years before we see Strome reach his full potential, whatever that may be.


On the flip side, a player like Bailey has had more than enough time to figure things out and does not belong in the NHL.  Unfortunately for me, I'm stuck watching him for another 4.5 years thanks to everyone's favorite GM.

orange2327
orange2327

I also think strome/nino are hamstrung by the fact that they are with a perennially poor franchise with serious issues regarding the owner/gm/coach/player development compounded by an atmosphere that has no recent history of success!! Even last years trip to the playoffs!! There was no carry over of confidence/cohesion/etc etc!! This atmosphere cannot nurture young talent/it has no basis/foundation of leadership to do so!! These are long term/institutional problems that can only be solved if ownership is serious about winning!!

Don22
Don22

@Zee ExecutionerSorry.  You should call Miriam Webster Dictionary if you don't like the definition. 

Boycotting what?  If you want to boycott then you should be boycotting everything Isles, not just what suits you.  Stop going to games.  Stop watching them on TV (yes, ratings help).  Stop posting here (yes, web hits help).  Stop everything.

I don't deny you the right to be frustrated or the right to criticize.  But don't preach and then go watch the game tonight. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Find something to root for? What crap. Why find something that isn't there unless you're selling something....like snake oil for example. The team moving is about as close to the nadir as one can get. The owner using the team he's moving as a tax shelter is galling. To try to sum up, boycotting is the only option for anyone who cares about this franchise. Non-cooperation with evil is as much a duty as cooperation with good. Gandhi said that.

And your definition of fan leaves something to be desired. Ardent enthusiasm, yes. That's in all dictionaries. I've seen zealous zeal, too. Uncritical support?! No, I don't think so. That sounds like a self-serving wiki deal there.

Don22
Don22

@Zee ExecutionerI have no problem with criticism.  I don't even think this team is above it.  But when all you do is criticize and can't find a single thing good about the team, then don't you think it's time to move on?

I'm not expecting you to all of the sudden say wow - you're right.  But why the hell do I have to be delusional or a toolbag or whatever just because I prefer to say - hey, we have some good prospects that may help the team.  Hey, we've played well the last week or so.  You spout such witty words as Emperor and Chairman when referring to Charles.  It seems to me that you are the one that is trying to be a dictatorial emperor because if someone doesn't agree with your "wisdom" then we are labeled as loyalists to the team or - haha, I love when you write this - friends with Chuckie.  Sorry Mein Fuhrer.  I don't agree with your rhetoric. 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

Once again.....intense uncritical devotion? Intense devotion? Yes. Uncritical? Please. No.

Only a complete toolbag devotes oneself uncritically. Do we even give family members and spouses uncritical devotion? Rainbows and unicorns you sell.

Don22
Don22

@Zee Executioner Forget my definition. Why don't we use the actual definition of the word Fan - short for fanatic by the way:

marked by excessive enthusiasm and often intense uncritical devotion 

 

Zee Executioner
Zee Executioner

I suppose it depends on Don's definition of what it is to be a fan.

I think at this point to expect anything besides poor results until the Emperor sells is ridiculous, sad, pathetic folly.

Don22
Don22

@orange2327If you keep having that attitude then you might as well stop being a fan until they sell the team.  I mean come on?  What's the point?


Vic, I know you are a big fan. But if you can't even let yourself be hopeful for some of the good young talent in the system, then it's really not worth sticking around.  Yes, it's speculation - but speculation worth getting excited about.

wmayshays
wmayshays

@orange2327 

Speculation is not pure gamble. 

Be reasonable, strength in numbers and positive signs of growth bode well.  It makes me feel a bit more confident about the future.  


And aren't you glad they're not the shrimps we're used to banking on?

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz@wmayshays 

The young players might have a learning curve that must be tolerated, but it could be a steep one.   Besides it was youthful aggressiveness that really led to the strong forchecking, turnovers and scoring opportunities, which in turn helped us get as far as we did last yr.  

Putting guys like Nelson and Strome on the top lines does not preclude this team from making the playoffs.

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz@wmayshays

Exactly, Cappy can certainly do more to help the rookies improve, IMO.  

Even if he was a GREAT coach and every practice was better than the last, most of what you learn is in game and hands on (so to speak)   He needs to have a game plan that puts growth and ability over service time. 

wmayshays
wmayshays

@mitchfritz@orange2327 

+100000

I know Wang is not selling right now, I also don't think Wang is going to fire Snow right now.  And since I know Snow will not fire himself, I can only hope that the coaching gets upgraded.  I don't dislike Cappy as a person, and I think he might even be a good coach someday.  BUT I do not think he is the man for this team.  Not right now.

orange2327
orange2327

@ mitchfritz its not just Cappy its a complete top to bottom organizational issue IMO!!

Don22
Don22

@mitchfritz@orangeblueI think it's way to early to label him anything.  He will get there, don't worry.  And like I said in my earlier post, he's been playing well overall and hasn't looked lost out there except on a few occasions. 

isles23
isles23

@Mitch, I get you and agree with regards to Giroux but that was part of my point, even great players can go a long stretch with out scoring. As far as what other teams do it really depends. I've seen teams give guys top minutes right away and I've seen teams start slow with players and put them on the 3rd or 4th line. But if you remember JT started his career very hot, including scoring in his first game, then he went in a big drought and went well over 10 games w/ no goals and not many points. Some guys hit the ground running others take a bit to get going but I believe Strome has a bright future in this league.