Poll: Will Mike Woodson survive the All-Star break?

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Mike Dell Italia
Mike Dell Italia

This team is going nowhere rite now and Woodson won't be the coach next year so I wanna see Allan Houston be the coach why not . That would be cool to see him coach. A coaching change could spark this team into the playoffs.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

To everybody whose saying "it won't make a difference whether we fire heady murphy or not"---HOW DO YOU KNOW? it would be better to take that risk and see what happens rather than stick with slow one whereas you and all the other NBA coaches know what we're getting.

lindro88
lindro88

If the Knicks lose to Sacramento at home, after the Kings play tonight, Mike Woodson should be fired.  I don't care if they promote the head trainer at that point.  The Kings are actually pretty talented, but have no idea how to play together.  The Knicks should win that game by 20 points.  

illmatix
illmatix

it makes no sense to fire Woody at this point of the season....aside from Melo and Junior there has been no positives to take away from this season so far, sorry but firing Woodson makes no difference on the outcome of this lost season

rico
rico

the answers don't really go with the question.


I gotta find a better Knicks blog…suggestions welcome.



knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@XpectTheWorst  coaches can be and have been fired at anytime in the season. sometimes with positive results. look, all the opposing coaches know exactly what the Knicks are going do under headson. with a new coach not so much. that in itself would be an improvement.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@XpectTheWorst  YIKES! Woody became head coach into the season from Pringles!  Avery Johnson was fired last year and the Nets still made the playoffs.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@illmatix  Woodson's multiple mistakes not only have cost this team games, but has players underachieving and playing well below their own standards.

As long as Woodson sticks around, these low performances won't change.

The motivation isn't there anymore.


While I agree it's not healthy to get rid of a coach midseason, I just couldn't stand not making the playoffs, and Woodson just won't get this team to a postseason. That much is clear, imho.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@illmatix players start to reject the coach after a while. hearing a new voice or having a change from a higher position is key. take a look at Brandon Jennings starting to give a crap after mo cheeks was canned

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@illmatix I remember when some were saying the same thing about not firing Pringles into the season because the season was lost.  

Whether it turns around this season or not, this team needs a coach that has a clue and that should start right away rather than wasting another year.

Nick White
Nick White

@illmatix why keep him? is he helping this team in anyway? new coach equals new rotations NO MORE SWITCHING. dudes a bum he can go lick his lips elsewhere

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@kneggyknik  Never understimate the power of change on players.

Many players' individual performances have steadily decreased under Woodson, maybe because they've grown tired of him or maybe because they just need something different. 

Maybe new leadership is just what they need  to pick it up. At least, imo, I think this can definitely help some of our players.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@kneggyknik Hiding with the rest of our 'management.' When you claim the team is good enough to compete for a title and then cant lock down the 8th seed while the atlantic is historically bad, you would avoid the media also. Its like promising the family that we are going to Peter Lugars for steak and then taking them to McDonalds for a McRib instead.

Frank Gebel Jr.
Frank Gebel Jr.

@kneggyknik  Its PG if you dont have a floor general you dont have a team,you just have parts. This team has plenty of talent but it has nobody to lead!

illmatix
illmatix

@VerySilentJay @illmatix  my point is are we really going to get a quality coach now...i think we have a better chance at snagging a better coach during the off season

illmatix
illmatix

@onewhoknix @illmatix  dude i hope if Woodson gets the axe then that is the case, i am not sure that will happen though....it will depend on who they replace him with

illmatix
illmatix

@xmenreturn @illmatix  whoever they put in his place is only going to be a stopgap until they find their coach for the next couple of seasons....I rather get a real deal coach over the summer than have Herb or Walker run the team with more than likely the same schemes


i think too much hasn't happened right for Woody to stay and unless we get a "real coach" now i see no point in putting a band aid over what is obviously a gunshot wound

illmatix
illmatix

@Nick White @illmatix  i agree that Woodson is stubborn and has many flaws but a new coach (especially if it is one of his current assistants) isn't going to make much of a difference for this season

brookdon
brookdon

Exactly. I'll extend the issue to the starting backcourt in general. Shump and Felton combined have been terrible

rico
rico

@Chris @Kiyan Carter  I think we have found the reason Woodson is still the coach.


a. Herb Williams?

b. Allan Houston?

c. Woodson still getting paid.




lindro88
lindro88

@XpectTheWorst  You made a comment that mid season changes never work out.  Woodsy was 18-6 after taking over.  Last year they won 54 games.  They didn't win a championship, but the idea that its championship or nothing is pretty stupid. The Nets fired Avery johnson after 18 games and PJ went on to have a very good season.   Woodson could not be doing a worse job. I am never in favor or constant change.  Its a terrible way to run a franchise, but when a team goes out and underperforms just about every night, the only thing that can be done is to change coaches.  They can let Herb Williams finish out the season, or be a little bold and call a guy like PJ and see if he wants a shot at the job.  Either way, Woodson is not a victim of injuries, or bad luck. Every team has injures.  He has been as bad on the sideline as Felton and Shumpert have been on the court.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@XpectTheWorst If you don't care about this team then why care about Woody being fired?

If you think Woody can't do anything with this team then why keep him around and not use the time to get in a better coach to work with the players we have?


VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@XpectTheWorst  I'd rather make the playoffs and give it a shot than give away a lottery pick to Denver. You never know.

I don't care how, just make the playoffs. 

Anything but the playoffs would be a massive failure and grounds for complete changes.

It's unacceptable to stay out of the postseason. Unacceptable by every standards, no matter how low they've turned into.


That I said, I just don't have faith in Woodson being able to acheive such a precarious goal.

illmatix
illmatix

@VerySilentJay @illmatix  yes totally on the players but see this is what i am saying ....Herb? thats the answer?  as far as i am concerned he is part of the problem....the FO has kept him lurking around the team for what has been years now...why?


just get me a real coach, no gimmicks, no lack of imagination...just a straight up bball coach

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@illmatix @VerySilentJay  I guess when/if Woodson goes it's up to the players, no doubt.

From the rumors going around though, if Woodson goes, he goes with his staff and Herb takes over.

Who knows...

illmatix
illmatix

@VerySilentJay @illmatix  i don't disagree that change at the helm is needed i am just not sure if the team will respond in kind...i guess for me it depends who they bring in, if it is one of Woodson's assistants then i am not on board but if they clean house in the coaching department then yeah maybe i would be in favor of that

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@illmatix @VerySilentJay  No, we're not getting a quality coach, but at least there'll be some much needed fresh air.

It's clear in some of the players' body language that they aren't 100% there anymore.

You have some requesting trades.

You got others questioning the coach's defensive schemes.

On the flipside, you got the coach calling out his players.


This, in no way, is a fashion to deal with issues within a team. And it all starts with the coach. That's where leadership and discipline comes from.


Personally, I think some players just need a new presence, plain and simple.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@illmatix As long as he sits them when they aren't performing or playing hard, I'm fine.

illmatix
illmatix

@xmenreturn @illmatix  he wont, i just don't see him being able to rein in these guys when needed


i am so over the switching

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@illmatix Herbie won't hurt anybody.  As long as Herb put in the guys who plays hard and hold them somewhat accountable, that would be an improvement. 

illmatix
illmatix

@xmenreturn @illmatix  like i just told @VerySilentJay  it depends who they bring in....Herb would be as clueless (if not more clueless than Woodson) and Walker i know nothing of as a coach....I'd take Pablo as our coach right now

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@illmatix I hear ya but I would rather see our players play without having to do all the crazy switching and with some scheme so we can get a real feel for who are the keepers. 

Stop gap or not, Woody needs to go so that someone else can try to get this team in a better mindset. 

Why people want to stay on really bad is beyond me.  In the long run, we are all dead!

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@illmatix @Nick White  it just might. that's a chance i'm willing to take.

bockers
bockers

@brookdon Agreed.See my trade for Reggie Jackson and G.Monroe.THJR s/b our SG.