Quote: Amar’e says Knicks are best team… on paper

“On paper we might be the best team in the league. We’ve got great players on this team who accomplished so much. We just couldn’t put it together.”

-Amar’e Stoudemire (Begley, April 13)




160 comments
jeandd323
jeandd323

Frankly, I am tired of these pronouncements from the Knicks players and coaches. Basket Ball is played on the court not with our mouths. As Bill Parcells so appropriately stated "Your record is who you are". We should close our traps and perform on the goddamn field ... Geeez ... 


No humility at all for such an under-performing team 

KnicksMaybeThisYear
KnicksMaybeThisYear

Knicks didnt get much from the PG or S position for the majority of the year.  You can add SF to that list as well. if you think Melo was playing PF more often than not.

I'm surprised they won as much as they did.

KnicksMaybeThisYear
KnicksMaybeThisYear

One thing some forget to factor in when it comes to playing in the Tri-state area - TAXES

Makes a huge difference in net pay playing in a state without income tax and the riduclous tax for property etc in this area.

That being said, Melo might not lose as much as everyone thinks if he can swing a deal to Houston.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

So we're 2 Wins away from our ESPN expected win total of 37 lol 

we're such underachievers 

cole3244
cole3244

interesting comments by stat and just proves the team is a bunch of paper tigers just like some of the fans on this blog, yes i'm talking about the positive patsy's or if you prefer whiny wilma's, you chose which you know who you are.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

 Here's my assessment of our Current Roster and my theory 


Chandler and Felton should be the only players on the move..keep Melo if you can hope he and Stat Opt Out to take a lesser cut or Stat Opt out and Melo Opt in 

i was for trading Shump but i think he finally understands that he needs to attack and stopped being timid on the offense

but if he can be included in a package to land a Star so be it

JR is now Novak on steroids and therefore should stay his injury definitely had to be an issue, his IQ still low but he is a scorer and started to find other ways to contribute

THJR is gonna be a impactful player in the league so instead of doing what we usually do and trade away prospects lets develop him 

PG is what we need and a certified rebounder case closed. 

we started winning because this is my theory- 

Woodson sat down with Phil Jackson and Phil gave Woodson some of his plays and schemes and said make some adjustments so we can make the Playoffs this probably happened the week before the announcement. 

Maybe it's me but i feel the Schemes changed in my opinion. 



hosket
hosket

...I know I'm in the minority but.....whether they sign Melo or not....it will happen when it happens and I'll deal with it. JR...he is what he is...once the knee straightened out....even Phil was impressed.  Felton...we're stuck with him...maybe the personal issues...OK....fine. Stat...one more season...and being healthy...fine with that.

The guy I want off....and can get something for is .....Chandler.  Lousy defensive instincts....gives up base line, happy feet. forget getting position.....and his new volley ball tap back is lame [just get position and get the damn offensive rebound], terrible hands....bobbles then grips.....and no O, heads down to other end of the court when the Knicks are in process of shooting a 3....so only 1/3 of rebounds are offense...should have way more with these shooters........Understand he was hurt....terrible thing but....when healthy brings little.....as Marv used to say..he would have a "quiet 15 rebounds"   a quiet 12 rebounds"...... and sure had a couple big games..20+ but quiet.......all the better to drive his value up...

Funny thing...once Woody discovered Aldrich....the middle got plugged.....he was a pleasant "surprise"....for a guy who was with the team all year....in every practice. Why didn't Woody dicscover him sooner...the only other 5 on the team......Woody.....another subject.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

All the bandwagon BK Nets fans should be ashamed of themselves, if you wasn't rocking with them while they was in Jersey you should get stoned and banished to Canarsie 

cole3244
cole3244

well well the positive patsy's have graduated to the whiny wilma's, but considering the bb acumen and lack of class what could you expect from this crowd.

mel brown
mel brown

Hilarious....I'm reading excuses and sympathy by Suns fans.  Knicks fans made no excuses.  Ironic.

mel brown
mel brown

And....of course there are people on here that speak in hypotheticals...."if the suns were in the east....blah, blah"  IT DON'T MATTER.  THEY ARE IN THE WEST.  PERIOD!!  THEY ARE GOING FISHING.....REALITY IS A MOTHER....

mel brown
mel brown

So much for the Suns...the "model of excellence".....LMAO.

dagawd
dagawd

Suns played good just couldn't pull it out, Future very bright for the Suns

Ray Jorge
Ray Jorge

OFF TOPIC: How many of you guys would be willing to trade Felton & JR for Jeremy Lin this season & if so would we be in the playoffs?

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

The funny thing about the folks slamming Phoenix for missing the playoffs is that they would in contention for the 3rd seed in the East, with their 47-33 record. Plus, they played in the much tougher West. Silver will work to get the top 16 teams in the playoffs in the near future.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

@KnicksMaybeThisYear  Miami may be his Destination if Bron don't leave , The Whole Heat Squad is eligible to Opt out after Playoffs 

oh and No Taxes there as well

CiceAsNice
CiceAsNice

@hosket Chandler has the worst hands in the NBA!  Pat Ewing's hands weren't this bad!

Chris
Chris

@OLDKNICK  thing is he is complaining. DAW 

only 2 more games. I don't drink but I will be celebrating when he's out.

johneco
johneco

@Jaime You didn't mention how horrible THJr is by this measure.  7th worst defender in the whole NBA, and not even a positive on offense.  Interesting future test case for whether someone can improve on D.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@BiggieTKB  

Bulls and Charlotte were just 13-17 against the West, we were 11-19 as was Washington, and Atlanta was 10-20.

New Orleans was 19-11 against the East,  Phoenix was 20-10 and Minnesota 17-13.


BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@mel brown  

What's cracking me up is seeing a TKBer go out of his way (multiple paragraphs!) to bash a re-building team for finishing 10+ games above .500...additionally funny since that little anti-Suns spiel was in response to no one - and I've been told that this was a KNICKS blog.  Lol!


Biggie never ceases to amaze with his spin jobs.


johneco
johneco

@BiggieTKB That's a popular perception.  However, if you look at "real plus minus", which ranks players according to their effect on the score, and is completely independent from the kind of stats you're talking about (points, rebs, 3pt%), he's still ranked 8th in the NBA.  He even has a positive effect on Minnie's defense.  Whereas Melo for example (someone I know you like), falls to #44 (mainly due to defense). 


rank  name  offense  defense  total

8 Kevin Love, 3.95  1.43  5.38

44 Carmelo Anthony, 3.62  -0.45  3.17


I think Minnie just needs more experience, and should be tough next year.  A few veterans would work wonders for them IMO.

BiggieTKBNY
BiggieTKBNY

@Ray Jorge  if lin would be a back up and be gone by 2015.. id be okay with it


but not going to happen ... Lin isnt a Phil jackson type of player

BiggieTKBNY
BiggieTKBNY

@Knicks_Fanatic  instead of just being realistic with themselves and just come to the fact that OUR knicks just STUNK this season


THEY RATHER BASH a team that would have been a TOP 3 seed in our conference


if Phoenix was in the EAST ... knick fans wouldn't even have that week of HOPE ... hoping atlanta would lose every single game 


Atlanta went like 8 and 27 or something in their last 35 games and WE STILL COULDN'T GET THE 8TH SEED



THATS HOW BAD WE WERE SMH

KnicksMaybeThisYear
KnicksMaybeThisYear

@BiggieTKB  10% of your total income is a big deal - compare it to how much more Melo will make playing for the Knicks minus how much Melo might potentially save by playing in a no income tax state.


So if the Knicks can give him 20 per year and Houston can give him 17 - you factor in the 10% you save plus the property taxes - it not too different (these are not exact numbers)

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@BiggieTKB Yes, people often talk about the taxes, but it is the non deductible utility costs that are the real killer. Unless you have gas, heating oil bills for a large house combined with the sky-high electric bills are the real killers.

KnicksMaybeThisYear
KnicksMaybeThisYear

@KnickelusKnickleby Yup - but I just dont see how they sign all four of them, someone has to leave.

For Houston, they have Parsons to offer up and probably clear cap easily.

KnickelusKnickleby
KnickelusKnickleby

@Jaime @KnickelusKnickleby  Exactly, Nets should've came to Brooklyn humbly and they would've got our respect but not only are they trying to be Bullies but they do things to slight us 

like Proky probably got banned from MSG so he went and got a Team to spite us 

they signed 2 of our Arch-Enemies in Pierce and KG and they throw little jabs at us 

while New York to me is New York...no disrespect but when people come here they wanna Visit NYC not Brooklyn 

BK is just an added incentive 

mel brown
mel brown

@BiggieTKB  LMAO.....folks are delusional.  It also kills me that folks think that by bashing the Knicks it makes them "realists". 

dagawd
dagawd

@Sandro Guedes They were supposed to be a below 500 team but the chemistry clicked and they had a great season

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Sandro Guedes @Knicks_Fanatic 

Teams like Atlanta need to be in the lottery and teams like Phoenix should be in the playoffs. Minnesota and Phoenix will get lottery picks and Atlanta and Charlotte won't. The West gets even stronger that way.

mel brown
mel brown

@Sandro Guedes I see you have really developed a good relationship with your "father".   That's nice to see.  LOL

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@mel brown @Sandro Guedes @BiggieTKB  You're not getting any replies, because you're right, don't worry.


As long as it fits the ageda, it'll be put out there.

If it means going back on previous statements, it shall be done.

mel brown
mel brown

@Sandro Guedes @BiggieTKB Bottom line, your dream team that you believe is the model of excellence didn't make the playoffs.  So, in essence they are in the same situation as my knicks...gone fishing. 


So much for your model team. 

BiggieTKBNY
BiggieTKBNY

@Sandro Guedes @Jesus Blas @HopeforTheBETTER  


what about coachi.... nvm

BiggieTKBNY
BiggieTKBNY

@Sandro Guedes @HopeforTheBETTER @Jesus Blas  


but I thought Felon has a higher Assist/Turnover ratio than Bled.... NVM

BiggieTKBNY
BiggieTKBNY

@Jesus Blas @HopeforTheBETTER  wait


how many turnovers did Bledsoe have in that game they beat us by 24???