Quote: Anthony on loss to the Thunder on Sunday

“Against Portland it was just me, I just couldn’t make a shot…Today, it was just trying to find out different ways to do it; seeing two or three guys every time, that’s tough to do. So I have to figure out when I see defenses like that what to do.”

-Carmelo Anthony after scoring just 15 points against the Thunder

Harris Decker

Carmelo can learn something from Kevin Durant. The way Durant has developed his game, learning to pass out of double teams, could be the answer for Anthony. This year, with his supporting cast faltering, Anthony has been tempted into taking wild shots while facing fierce double teams. Against the Thunder’s smothering defense, Anthony did not have enough magic to overcome Durant’s 41 points.



265 comments
Chris
Chris

Harris, I don`t believe you said that, Melo has to learn from Durant. Melo gets triplied every time he touches, 1/2 the time Ray is guarding Durant or Shump is gambling, with no doubles, no triangle def and you have the audacity to say Melo has to learn. All this stuff is on the SA coach that has no idea what to do. What tree did you fall out of to come up with that lame junk?

knickster
knickster

Melo WON'T OPT OUT. His agent probably realizes there is not a big market for him right now.

darealeric
darealeric

Hey Melo, here's $130,000,000 and six more years for you to "figure it out"...

jax13
jax13

Every bit can help, if they make coaching change, what are the chances we go like 20-10 for remainder n get like a 6 seed?

jax13
jax13

Hey can we get some kind of exception if bargs is done for year?

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

Sorry, HD, you're way off on this one.

Tremendously off.

"Melo learn to pass off the double?"


Christ, isn't this what we've seen from him the past season and a half? I swear, it's almost as if people don't even watch games.


Not to justify Melo, he had a rough shooting night. It happens. So no point in explaining what happened yesterday.


And let's be real, Durant has learned to pass more. In terms of scoring, he's still a pure shooter who can attack the basket at. In terms of go to moves in isolated situations....he ain't go none. His height and built allows him to get a J off pretty much any defender at the 3, or 4 for that matter.


And let's be real about another thing: Melo's had the most inconsistent group of teammates I've seen in a long time, and yet he's managed to carry this team as much as humanly possible. 


The problem here is that people criticize, bash, or hate, becuase they expect certain players to be something they're not, hence they don't appreciate what they do bring to the table.

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

Melo is either staying or going to Chicago (if they clear room).  I thought about Miami, but I cannot fathom Bosh opting out or even Wade for that matter.  Even if Lebron left, Melo could not get anywhere near the $23.5 mil he could.

LAL want Love and know they can get him easy. Melo and Love on the same team makes about as much sense as having Ewing and Smits on the same team.

LAC will not break up their team

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@knickster  

If he doesn't opt out and has a career ending injury next season, it will cost him over $100 million. He will opt out and Dolan will offer him the max of $129 million.

darealeric
darealeric

Just about as much chance as ANY player who wants to play with the black hole dummy.

"Hmmm, let me see, I get to pass the ball to Melo 30 times a game and never win a championship? Yup, sign me up"

-Rondo, Rose, etc.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@jax13  Never understimate the power of fresh air and change.

A team with no will or soul is what we've become under this guy.

No chance we makes the playoffs under him.

Given our schedule...just no chance.


With a different hand in charge, possibilities at least will present themselves.

Frank Gebel
Frank Gebel

@jax13 This team has talent,enough to win every 2/3 the rest of the way. Go get a PG doesn't have to be great and change the coach and watch the energy we play with!

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@jax13  

No, you have to apply before January 15th;

DISABLED PLAYER EXCEPTION -- This exception allows a team which is over the cap to replace a disabled player who will be out for the remainder of that season (it can also be granted in the event of a player's death). This exception is granted by the league, based on an application from the team and a determination by an NBA-designated physician that the player is substantially more likely than not to be unable to play through the following June 15.

If this exception is granted, the team can acquire one player, via either trade or free agent signing, to replace the disabled player:

  • The team may sign a free agent for one season only, for 50% of the disabled player's salary or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception, whichever is less.
  • The team may trade for a player in the last season of his contract only (including any option years), who is making no more than 50% plus $100,000 of the disabled player's salary, or the amount of the Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level exception plus $100,000, whichever is less.

Teams can apply for this exception from July 1 through January 15, and cannot apply after January 15. Once granted, the exception expires when a player is acquired, when the disabled player is traded or returns to the team, or on March 10 of that season, whichever comes first. This exception is granted on a season-by-season basis -- if the player will also be out the following season, the team needs to apply for this exception again the following season.

ScottE
ScottE

@Knicks_Fanatic  Always talking, always looking for an edge.  Another guy whose impact can't be measured with stats.

Sandro
Sandro

@orlando_knickfan

Because Melo's option are so limited, the Knicks should only throw 100 mil at him.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@darealeric  Black hole?

You've never seen a game in your life.

Amare's a bigger black hole than Melo's ever been.


Jesus. The things said on this place.


So because the stat line says there's few assists he doesn't pass the ball?


SMH....

Chris
Chris

@VerySilentJay @jax13  Correct, there was no plan for guarding the Thunder. I watch exactly the same mess called Knick defense every game, there are no changes for opponents . And again if you watch off the ball, Ray gets totally lost after the first pick and stands in the paint guarding no one

jax13
jax13

Exactly.....trade chandler for a pg n pick. Not to say we can win the east but we can get to a second round game n make it interesting.

Which would sway melo to stay

jax13
jax13

Wow. Nice research....thanks!

jax13
jax13

With pepperoni?

Chris
Chris

@Sandro  Throw 100m at him with a efing plan, 1. new coach 2 a legit pg, and 3 another scorer

buddhabing
buddhabing

@Sandro  No need to insult him. If he's not willing to take less just sign and trade him. Try to low ball him he'll sign elsewhere and Knicks will be left empty handed.

Chris
Chris

@xmenreturn  What are you guys debating, you are both right in what you say, but Xie what point are you trying to make, Melo doesn`t pass. Well if he gets it late in the clock, and no one is moving he doesn`t have time to dribble and look, so what should he do give it back to Ray?

Chris
Chris

@xmenreturn @VerySilentJay  You ever watch off the ball when Melo gets it? You would be shocked by yhe lack of movement. You going to throw the ball that is frozen to a spot that the defense knows? If so, you will be the turnover king

Chris
Chris

@darealeric  No fool, Melo turned on his dumb but when he found out DumPhony demanded trading him for DWill, get some truth to your posts or get lost

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@ScottE I agree with that until I saw Woody coach in the playoffs and then I remembered why ATL never went anywhere. 

Woody sat out 2 best shooters and tried to match up against a physical Indy team that couldn't score when we needed to score and try to get the lead to put pressure on that team. 

ScottE
ScottE

@VerySilentJay @xmenreturn  If that team stayed healthy, they would have gone all the way.  A great combination of smarts, toughness, and lights out shooting.  We were skunking the best teams in the NBA.  Woody looked brilliant! We have none of those things this year, and Woody looks like the DA he is.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@VerySilentJay He did this some but our PGs had the ball in their hands more.  Melo trusted Kidd to run the offense. 

We still were a perimeter team but we had better shooters. People forget Novak and Cope and even Brewer in the quarter of the season. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@VerySilentJay The offense was better last year because we had better spot up shooters.  Also for a nice period of time when Melo was out, people like JR made the extra pass to people like Novak. 

Finally, we have players with a better b-ball IQ like Kidd,Thomas and Rasheed

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@xmenreturn @VerySilentJay  When the offense was clicking last season, it all started through Melo.

You know that.

What happened? The personnel who helped aren't here anymore and the coach has regressed into a little league assistant.

His offense makes no sense, his players rarely execute.

Yet it goes back to Melo?


I can't agree with that. 

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@darealeric  If you're talking about Karl, then you're talking about the inventor of "iso Melo".

And if you don't remember, it was Karl who threw Melo under the bus first.

Get a grip.

ScottE
ScottE

@darealeric  Yeah, cause Melo has Oakley and Mason and the Xman backing him up, right.  People forget, Ewing had guys go off on him.  He wasn't the defensive force in the NBA that he was in college: FACT!  He had the support and team defense that afforded him the luxury of being a "black hole" on offense.  That is the point I'm making.  Dantoni got canned because he didn't care about defense and Melo knew that his game did not fit his philosophy.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@VerySilentJay Melo passes the ball just not always with a real purpose.  For instance, I hold the ball until I get into trouble and then just passes to the near guy it's not the same as looking for ways to find your teammates in a good position to do something with it. 

STATues does that for the few times he passes.  You can almost see him thinking "I need to get my 2 passes out of the way so I'll just passes it to the nearest guy and fulfill my quota!" 

So there passing just to be passing and then there's passing to find an opportunity or to exploit the defense and etc.

darealeric
darealeric

Ewing? LMFAO. Ewing was a warrior every night and great defensive anchor and example to his teammates, WTF are YOU talking about? No relation whatsoever

ScottE
ScottE

@darealeric  The problem has never been about a black hole on offense, it has been about the gaping hole on defense.  By your measure, Ewing was a black hole on offense, but there wasn't a gaping hole on defense.

darealeric
darealeric

Way to figure it out genius, there was a coach who's gameplan didn't revolve around Melo shooting off ISO every play, remember his name? Yup Melo tuned him out and wouldn't have any, got him to quit. Now lets wait for the dumbasses like you to say it was never "proven or written about in the papers"

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@orlando_knickfan @VerySilentJay  The ACL was the true test. Meniscus tear it's extremely treatable, to such degree that doctors give you option to rehab it without surgery.

Ultimately, it's up to the player.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@orlando_knickfan @VerySilentJay  People overrate what he's gone through.

The ACL was the real challenge, and athletically, he was more than fine after coming back. There's no denying that.

Torn meniscus is an extremely common occurence for players, but if properly cared for it never has an effect on a players' athleticism or well being overall.

Rose just had extremely bad luck due to his style of play.

If Melo does leave, it'll be back to the WCF, where he doesn't have to compete against LBJ, Wade, and Bosh.

Sandro
Sandro

@buddhabing

I would only give him 130 mil if it was on a sign and trade, which I believe we can't do due to our cap situation.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@Sandro  I agree he's not worth the max but you're not going to convince him to take anything less in my opinion if you're the Knicks. You either give it to him or sign and trade him if you don't. Trying to convince him to take less would be fruitless.

Sandro
Sandro

@budhabing

Carmelo is not bigger than the Knicks.

If he sees 100 million dollars as an insult, he can leave for all I care.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@Sandro  In his mind he's a max player. Anything less is an insult in these athletes world. Just ask Robinson Cano. 

Sandro
Sandro

@budhabing

Insult him?

I'm giving him 100 mil, which is more than he can get somewhere else...how is that an insult?