Quote: Chandler after last night’s win

“…When you gut wins out like this together as a team, they’re also good building wins. I expect us to build on this.”

-Tyson Chandler, after last nights double-overtime win over the Bucks




36 comments
VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

I don't want to nitpick or anything, but is it me or did Chandler play waaaaay too minutes for someone who just came back from injury?

Wasn't around yesterday, so I don't know if it was already discussed.

buddhabing
buddhabing

Say what you want about Shumpert but i would rather keep him; a guy who plays hard and is a team player to a malcontent like JR who is streaky and prone to boneheaded decisions on and off the court. Only in the Knicks bizarro world is the later preferred to the former.

buddhabing
buddhabing

If you don't want to fire Woodson why not bring in a defensive coach? At this point i wouldn't be adverse to bringing in a Lawrence Frank to help out in that area. That's how bad it's gotten on the defensive end imo.

buddhabing
buddhabing

Until this team learns how to play defense they aren't going to be able to string wins together. Their inability to make stops late in games to keep or extend leads will be their downfall unless they address the problem. How many more wins could this team have had this year with a few key stops when they needed them?

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

I get it, but the Knicks shouldn't have to gut out wins against the Bucks missing OJ Mayo, Larry Sanders, Zaza Pachulia, and Caron Butler.

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

This win was very important because all hell would of broken lose if we didn't .

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@VerySilentJay He did play too many mins, but Knicks don't win the game without him late in the game.

ds2488
ds2488

@VerySilentJay Not nitpicking to worry about player's health.  This coach is riding players worse than Dantoni ever did.  Melo playing a career high in minutes after all the minutes he played?


It's very dangerous to the team imo.  Would not be surprised to see a few more injuries coming up.


Just one of many reasons why this coach needs to go.

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@buddhabingI agree. Shumpert is slumping bad, but he's being made into a pariah and scapegoat on this message board. I'd rather have Shumpert shooting 1-6 and grabbing boards and getting steals, than JR shooting 5-20 (mostly from 3)

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@buddhabing I'd be into that and it would also rub Brooklyn the wrong way, which is always fun.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@CL4nyk We're missing Felton, Prigs, Kmart, and Amare.  And its a road game.  A win on the road is ALWAYS a good thing.

Marvel
Marvel

@zdiddy4nyk 

The coach is the biggest problem. thjr is shooting 47% from the field, 41% from 3.....yet chuck mgeee aka Jr.smiggity is shooting 33% from the field, 34% from 3 and get to throw up any shot at any time...


then you have metta drastically outplaying shump who is 5 for his last 35 for 17 point... but gets little run.


Then you SWITCH EVERYTHING ON DEFENSE..murry cankkeep up with the PG, yet he's getting switched onto Pfs??


it goes on and on...





buddhabing
buddhabing

@ReneNYK1 What's wrong with all hell breaking loose? Maybe that's what this team needs at the moment. 

buddhabing
buddhabing

@CL4nyk @VerySilentJay How about subbing for him earlier or in the middle of the game? It's very dangerous to play guys returning from injury so many minutes. Especially guys with durability issues.

Chris
Chris

@BiggieSmalls @VerySilentJay Play Cole, cut CSmith and bring in Tyler, there are two very simple things he can do. He can give Murry more minutes, he showed he can defend, let him play more he will get better. No one has ever improved will sitting the bench. The best move Woody can make however is to quit, or if he wont then get fired. Note klast night he used up his TOs too early and didn`t have one for the last 10 seconds. He was switching Off and Def like a real coach. Wonders happen when you are out on a limb. PS He didn`t help his cause by throwing Melo under the bus

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@BiggieSmalls @VerySilentJay Go small, use Aldrich, there are alternatives.

Imo, Woodson's playing selfish and isn't looking out for his players. His first interest is his job and not his players.

It's clear he doesn't have trust in certain individuals, who could be very useful.

MWP and Aldrich can easily be a decent 4-5 combo against a lottery team for 10 minutes.

ds2488
ds2488

@BiggieSmalls @VerySilentJay Use his freaking bench.  He has Aldrich rotting away there.  If he can't trust Aldrich to play in that situation, why even keep him on the roster to waste a roster spot?

buddhabing
buddhabing

@thatsagoodpoint @buddhabing I know what your saying but what type of return will you get for a guy like Shumpert? I would rather get rid of a JR where it would be an addition by subtraction move than getting rid of Shumpert who at worst could be a good role playing defensive specialist in this league. Knicks need to weed out the guys who aren't playing hard or smart. JR and all his baggage would be a good start.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@Sandro Guedes @buddhabing Good point but anything would be better than this switching monstrosity of a defense they run now. That's how desperate i am for some type of change.

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@zdiddy4nyk Oh come on. If the Knicks weren't 10 games under .500 you'd have a point. But they are, so you don't.


Of course every team gets beat, sometimes by bad teams. But this isn't a fluke, it's a trend.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@buddhabing@CL4nyk@VerySilentJay He didn't play that many regulation minutes.  It would have been under 30 minutes if the game ended after the 4th quarter.  It was the double OT that racked up his minutes (and Melo's).

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@buddhabing@CL4nyk@VerySilentJayI agree. Truth is Aldrich should have been getting some minutes when Chandler was out and they were getting killed on the boards or opposing guards were carving up the paint.


But truth be told, Knicks needed Chandler bad in the 4th and overtimes. It was shoulda/woulda/coulda with subbing by that point. Not to mention, Woody is looking to salvage his job.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@thatsagoodpoint @buddhabing I understand but it's all about the culture this team should be trying to build. That of playing hard and being selfless. Again i'd rather get back a lesser player for JR than you would get for Shumpert if said player was a hard worker who would adhere to a team concept.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@CL4nyk But we got the W.  If we string together a few more wins no one will look back and say "that was a bad win."  They'll look back and say "that gritty double OT win on the road when we were missing a lot of players turned things around for us." 

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@zdiddy4nykAnd teams like the Celtics and Lakers haven't dealt with injuries?


Injuries are a part of the game. Despite them, Knicks should have enough talent to be hovering around .500, especially with a fairly easy schedule.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

He does need to get off twitter but I'll tell you this: Brandon knight prob scores 50 if Shump isn't on him in the second half. He prob had two points on him.

Marvel
Marvel

@zdiddy4nyk

 i get the posative angle but,stop the crap. Shump has nothing but decent defense..miss me the slump amgle..


get off twitter and go practice.


SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

The only thing that has improved is the energy. It's still not up to par. Woodson hasn't made any adjustments except for shuffling lineups. The game plan looks as bad as it did in the preseason.