Thanksgiving Roundtable: Has Mike Woodson lost the locker room?

Ben Kopelman

I do not think he has lost the locker room quite yet. I think Melo, the leader of the team and the leader in the clubhouse, respects Woodson and appreciates his approach. You can tell by how hard Melo is playing out there right now that he has not given up on the team or the season. Once Melo starts to slow however (see: Mike D’Antoni), Woodson is as good as gone. Shumpert and JR are not in charge, so I think as long as Anthony keeps showing up and playing hard, Woodson will remain in control of the rest of the roster. Whether Bossman Dolan gets impatient before that happens, however, is another story altogether.

Harris Decker

Of course Carmelo Anthony sets the tone and if you’re going to answer this question based soely on what you’ve seen from the superstar then the answer is no as Ben said. What I disagree with is that Anthony doesn’t tell the whole story. He’s not getting production from many guys that were expected to play huge roles this year and the team is playing without a spark. This spark is the key reason I think Woodson is losing the locker room. I don’t think it’s completely gone but it’s very close. He needs to turn things around or Anthony could join J.R. Smith, Iman Shumpert and Raymond Felton as players, lost in this system.

Sam Spiegelman

No, I don’t think Mike Woodson has lost the locker room. There are a number of outlying factors in the Knicks’ inexplicable play so far this season. Carmelo Anthony is shouldering the load, getting inconsistent contributions from his supporting cast and the bench. Tyson Chandler and Raymond Felton are both sidelined, meaning the team is without its best defensive player and rebounder and leading assist man. Another thing to consider is the schedule. The Knicks have played against a lot of Western Conference foes already this year, and perhaps can turn things around against the weaker Eastern Conference teams — with a healthy Chandler and Felton, of course. That being said, if the Knicks fail to right the ship the blame will inevitably fall into Woodson’s lap. It’s New York; the city is desperate for an NBA championship and will go through however many coaches before it gets one.



12 comments
isles23
isles23

With Leddy now locked up isles will have an estimated 21 mil in cap space for next year. Even if they sign Boychuck to big money they will have around 14 or so mil to work with needing no other major contracts to sign aside from if they want to lock up a one of the RFA's. Not a bad job building a cap friendly roster for a back up goalie GM...

rmbbanned2
rmbbanned2

@isles23 Yep. although as per the Friedman article- 

"planning on $69 million dollar cap" as per an unnamed GM. That is tight money league wide- and definitely will factor into contract talks..

mrcisback
mrcisback

  Zack Kassian has 4 goals in 3 games, 9 goals in 35 games. He's that tough guy who can score some goals and protect John Tavares back come playoff time. Kassian is Matt Martin 2.0. We have to improve team toughness or Tavares will have a target on his back come playoff time especially when facing the bigger teams in the league.

isles23
isles23

Mrc, JT is gonna have a target regardless of who we get. Not saying I wouldn't mind another PF but good ones are hard to come by and IMO its not worth it to bring in some just to 'protect JT'. I want a guy that can play too.

caseysdad
caseysdad

@puckznpadz @mrcisback

puck, the flyers are cash strapped due to some horrendous contracts, as i'm sure you are aware of, A Mac, Streit for 2, they seem to always overpay and fall short most years, you'd think they would wise up some.

isles23
isles23

Hover. Leddys minutes were cut come playoff time but if you asked coach q if he'd like to have Leddy in his lineup for the upcoming playoffs I'm certain it's a yes answer. They had to trade him for cap reasons. I'm confident Leddy will preform well come playoff time.

tag1
tag1

Mrc you are correct the Habs made a trade yesterday and toughened up the playoffs are a different animal if things get physical and CHIPPY you have to be able to respond.

Speaking of the playoffs being a different animal I was reading comments on the Hawks board and they were mentioning that Leddy was not effective in the playoffs and that Coach Q was not a big fan of his so let's see what he's got come playoff time.

hoverlow
hoverlow

@tag1  You need to remember Leddy is still just 23!  So his playoffs with the hawks were when he was 20,21,and 22.  Who has his D pairing during those playoff games?  I think the hawk boards (and coach q if that is true) are probably a bit bitter that they traded a 23 year old d man who has his best hockey ahead of him. 

mrcisback
mrcisback

@isles23 Your exactly right 23. JT will have a target on his back regardless but the difference is an opposing team will pay the price with a dirty or cheap hit on our top players. A guy like Kassian is a player who i think can score 20 goals and 40 points in the right situation and beat up half the league in the process. I remember John Tavares talking about Kassian in the minors saying that this guy hits like a mack truck. He was being used all wrong on Vancouver with limited ice time and on the 4th line until recently. A few more goals by him and he won't be available. I remember watching the 2009 draft after the Islanders picked Tavares and when they traded up tpo the 12th pick i was saying it has to be Kassian, Instead they picked Calvin Dehaan and i was disappointed. Kassian went 13th to Buffalo.

puckznpadz
puckznpadz

@mrcisback  I like the guy and personally I would not mind seeing him or maybe Wayne Simmonds on his wing.  Flyers are cash strapped maybe we can swing a deal.  Kassin may only cost a pick.

mrcisback
mrcisback

I gotta give Garth Snow a lot of credit for getting Nick Leddy signed before March-02 right under Johnny Boychuks nose. It shows that the Islanders are committed to winning. I also love what Nick Leddy said. Leddy said now that he's signed, he is going to give Boychuk some extra encouragement to get a deal done. "Well i love playing with him, so i'm going to be pushing his buttons a little more", Leddy said with a grin. Get it done Snow.

caseysdad
caseysdad

@mrcisback

mrc a great point Leddy will be using psychology on 55, hope that works, and to yoir [point if Boychuk wasn't certain about the commitment of the Isles the Leddy signing should tell him that they are 'in it to win it'