The Good, The Bad and The Walt Clyde: Week 12

Ben Kopelman

Every Knicks fan struggles with the optimistic angel on one shoulder (we got Eddy Curry!) and the ever-depressing devil on the other (we still have Eddy Curry??!!). After each week this season, we will offer up the positives and negatives of the last seven days in Knicks-land to help sort it all out and put your mind at ease. 

Record during the week: 1-3
Game results: Win vs. Suns (98-96); Loss @ Bobcats (108-98); Loss @ Pacers (117-89); Loss vs. Clippers (109-95); Loss vs. Nets (103-80)
Overall record / Games Behind: 15-26, 5.5 GB

THE GOOD

Coming out Ready: What was initially one of the Knicks’ worst characteristics has slowly turned into a positive one. The Knicks have been coming out with energy and purpose in a way we did not see over most of the first half of the year. Against the Suns, the Knicks were up seven after the first quarter, and the team played well in the opening frame against the Pacers and Clippers in following games. Waking up before tip-off is something this team had a lot of trouble doing earlier in the season, so it is good to see they remedied the problem.

Kenyon Martin: Martin played spectacular ball in the fourth quarter and OT against the Suns last Monday. In the Knicks patented switch-on-everything defense, Martin held his own against and stayed in front of Goran Dragic, who had shredded the Knicks the first three quarters. Offensively, he had two huge put-backs that allowed the Knicks to separate themselves in the overtime period. Just like Jason Kidd last year, Martin’s presence on the floor makes the Knicks a better, more confident team. For all the money thrown around to lure guys into the Garden, a veteran’s minimum might have been the best investment.

THE BAD

Coming out Ready: What the heck was that on Monday afternoon? Who sleepwalks through a rivalry game on national TV? How does Mike Woodson explain having his team so unprepared to play in front of its home crowd? Despite how good the Knicks made them look with yesterday’s performance, it’s not as if the Nets are some Eastern Conference juggernaut. They stink, and the Knicks came out so flat that they made the Nets look like contenders. A truly pathetic showing by what is slowly but surely becoming a truly pathetic team.

Kenyon Martin: After playing so well against the Suns, Martin injured his ankle against the Pacers and has been in civies ever since. Add in Amar’e’s bum ankle and what was slowly turning into a solid two-headed monster is now a bench-ridden nothing. Kenyon and Amar’e need to get healthy if the Knicks are going to turn this thing around. These sentences get more and more sad with every passing week…

THE WALT CLYDE

Takes a Fashionista to Know a Fashionista: Complimenting Woodson’s turtle neck and sports coat look against the Suns, Walt commented, “I’ve noticed Mike’s gotten some new suits.” Imagine that guy critiquing your style on a regular basis. We need to get Walt to rank the Knicks from most to least fashionable. This needs to happen. This season is so depressing we need novelty fun like this. Jill Martin, I’m looking at you.


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63 comments
knickgirl35
knickgirl35

the writers here need to get some real deal blog writers out there who actually do some digging and get some good info. this is THE KNICKS BLOG i mean cmon

lola69
lola69

Basketball wives hoochies whatever gossip on the street is Carmelo is not going nowhere.

tifoso6
tifoso6

I am boycotting until Dolan does something intelligent.  No TV and no money for going to the games.  I wonder if any of the fans feel as I do.   I will keep up however by  reading this blog. 

dagawd
dagawd

Inside sources are saying Dolan will not Fire Woodson and he would rather give him an Extension

cole3244
cole3244

i see the believers are a little subdued lately but after just one win they will be on the fast train to the ecf and league mvp again. 

stupid is as stupid does.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Rondo's game tonight would fit perfectly into the Knicks play 1 pt on 0-8 from the field, guess he's gearing up for a Knicks uniform

rico
rico

there really is no GOOD right now. 

a flash and a dash of good ball almost 2 weeks ago doesn't rate



xmenreturn
xmenreturn

Kidd has the Nets playing decent b-ball for every game in 2014 and they have only lost one this year.  Yet Woody with more experience can't get our team to play hard or show up in our own house.

lobcity1
lobcity1

Would Memphis trade Conley?

lobcity1
lobcity1

I wish we still had Novak

rgm891
rgm891

@thatsagoodpoint I like this idea. What about conley just like lobcity mentioned? I think teague would be better for the knicks though.  

Chris
Chris

@Sandro Guedes You are sometimes real bright, who is going to take Melo if he doesn`t say he wants to play there. He has said he wants to be on the market, that means if I am a GM, I can`t take a chance on a trade because he might not stay

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@zdiddy4nyk 

Atlanta is not going to trade Millsap for Asik. They've already turned that one down. Asik hasn't played for a month, no way Houston gets anything of great value for him.


The Knicks won't trade Melo.


Houston wouldn't want Melo with Harden. Not enough balls for those two.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Seth Nadler I'll take him no matter what.

Obviously, many here would find a myriad of ways to bash even a great playmaker like him.

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

@RespectDaColor MANY posters on here should listen to Noah..rooting for your team to lose weather its for draft position or to fire a coach or trade a player, is childish and stupid, and hey they aren't a fan anyway.

Chris
Chris

@kneggyknik Unfortunately that might be true, and this horrific season could get much worse

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@lobcity 

Now that dude would be a good fit here ....plays on BOTH ends of the floor CONSISTENTLY well.

rgm891
rgm891

@lobcity I would like to look at him also. I always liked him myself. Looks like they're shedding cap themselves or at least trying

tommy2b
tommy2b

Yeah that's the problem.  Melo is going to test free agency so whoever is trading for him is just getting a rental player.  And it would look horrible for the Knicks to trade him 2 years later for 25cents on the dollar.  That's why he's probably going to end up playing it out in NY.

lola69
lola69

@Tomas @tifoso6 i'd do anything to get Mike Woodson out of NY and off of my TV he's so ugly with that stupid beard.

360ProMobile
360ProMobile

@Sandro Guedes Only trade that can happen is Walker. Dump Chandler and JR to LA and Bring Gasol and another piece. We need to dump Felton and Bargiani too! 

Chris
Chris

@MeloStat301 Got the gloves on, here we go. Why is it childish to want to get rid of DAW? He is a terrible coach. I should root for a terrible coach who has destroyed his young players and thrown most of the others under the bus to cover his gleuts? Get real man

lobcity1
lobcity1

@rgm891

I  like him to. I think if Rondo is not a possibility then i think targeting Conely is realistic if Memphis are interested in trading him.

lobcity1
lobcity1

@VerySilentJay

lol.. That has been my wish since last season, I figure let me make another one since my wish of Woodson getting fired cannot be granted.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Sandro Guedes If he stays, it depends on how much money he takes (as you've stated). However, if the Knicks organization doesn't show some kind of competence, they will HAVE to pay him the $130 mill for him to stay in such a dysfunctional mess. Melo and his agent know that. 


I also read that LA prob won't offer him the max that they are allowed to give him.

Chris
Chris

@Sandro Guedes My point is if he were really interested in a team he would make it public. He is holding a gun over Jimmy`s head to straighten out this franchise IMO

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@Sandro Guedes Glad we could agree on something.


In all fairness, you're the one who decided to bring your personal life on to the blog. 

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@Sandro Guedes So it's only ok for you to spam my post with snarky comments? When it's done to you look at how sensitive you get. You can dish it but can't take it smh.


Just for the record, I've had this handle since Hahn's Knicks Fix. That's going back several years. Your Novak comment a few threads back in regards to my handle was completely off base. Had no idea who Novak was before he was a Knick. I'm a fan of the team 1st, not individual players. I'd move anybody if it made sense and it improved the team. 

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

 @Sandro Guedes Really is amazing how much time you have for the blog again Mr. Humanitarian. :-) What a difference a week can make...

Kenny Kaufman
Kenny Kaufman

Hawks? Don't be silly!

Houston has no cap space!

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@NoVaCaInE @Sandro Guedes 


Picking up his option and waiting it out a year does seem nice because he can actually see what the Knicks are going to do before committing to stay for the rest of his career. However, and I'm sure you know, it is a risk. What if he sustains serious injury...he's out of money or he loses a lot in free agency. 

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@Sandro Guedes I agree there too. I was one of the few here who called for this thing to be blown up. I also cautioned people during the winning streak that the Knicks were far from out of the woods. That the Knicks still have many flaws. This team can't win a title as currently constructed. 


If it were up to me, I'd move everyone outside of Melo, Shump and Timmy. I don't see any GM that's willing to help the Knicks shed their mistakes. When Walsh did it a few years back, it came with the price of including several 1st round picks. 


I also don't see any team willing to give us multiple picks back for Melo. When we traded for Melo, he was 26 and in his prime. Also, Melo wanted to be a Knick. There is no way at his age now we will receive a similar package. 


I don't see Chicago and LAL being realistic teams for Melo. Can they afford him? Yeah, will they be title contenders with him? No. Kobe is old and shot and D Rose will never be what he once was. Also, Joakim Noah is just as injury prone as Tyson is. Maybe more than Tyson. There just isn't a big market right now for Melo. No team other than the Clippers makes sense for Melo. Melo should take a hard look at picking up his option for next season. Test the 2015 FA's when the Knicks can bring him back along with another Max player.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@lobcity But let's not aim so low as to wish for Novak.

I'll settle for wishing a trade for a new PG.