The lamest of lame ducks, Mike Woodson feels the pain

Harris Decker

I officially feel terrible for Mike Woodson.

Mike WoodsonThe coach of the New York Knicks has done a horrible job this year. He’s taken a roster of players that won the Atlantic Division last year and drove them to spot where they are trying desperately to finish close to .500.

Woodson will likely be fired on the final day of the regular season and to say that it’s undeserved would be a flat out lie. He deserves to be fired. He did a bad job this year.

Now that Phil Jackson is running the Knicks, he will install a head coach that fits his system. I believe that nothing could have saved Woodson’s job and he knew it months ago.

Since then, with owner James Dolan and general manager Steve Mills completely out of the spotlight, Woodson sat on the podium day after day and took the questions.

He took the “How do you explain giving up 51 points in a quarter?” questions. He took the “Do you expect the players to speak with Phil Jackson?” questions. And he took the “Do you still feel like you’ve lost the team?” questions.

Now that he’s been all but fired, it’s simply hard to watch. I sat in the pre-game press conference last Sunday before the brutal loss to the Cavaliers. He was forced to answer questions not about the upcoming game but about whether or not he’d meet with Jackson when they were in L.A.

No man deserves what he’s being put through. On the TKB Podcast, I called what he’s going through “white collar torture.” He’s being battered with irrelevant questions and is getting no support from the front office.

This is of course the definition of a lame duck coach. But Woodson is below a lame duck. He’s gone. He knows it. The fans know it and the team doesn’t seem to have the will to win a few games to send him out on a high note.




102 comments
knickgirl35
knickgirl35

Put the DAM whiteboard away Woody and COACH!! He has no clue how to motivate this team. His vocabulary is so limited he can't even talk to them unless he's seething angry--CURSING is NOT coaching!

That's why Melo got so frustrated with his azz. He was writing on the board again instead of rallying the team. HE DOES NOT KNOW HOW TO DO THAT! This dumbazz should not be with the NBA!!!

lindro88
lindro88

Atlanta has no reason to make the playoffs. I wouldn't be surprised to see Teague or Millsap come down with sinus infections. That being said, if the Knicks fall into the 8 seed, they'll be embarrassed by Indiana.

tifoso6
tifoso6

Woody is not and has not been up to the job from the beginning of the season.  When the season started I was one of the fans who predicted a bad season.   Woody does not have basketball knowledge, intra-personal skills or listening skills to be a top coach. My wife who has studied body language for years is shocked when Woody stands with his arms crossed at his chest during the games, a complete sign of weakness.  Do I feel sorry for him?  No he is well paid for his job.  I am sure the players told him that he was screwing up and he did not listen.  He should have stepped aside and taken a job with the team like John Starks.  The Cleveland game was one the worst coaching jobs I have ever seen.    Goodbye to Woody.

Ray Jorge
Ray Jorge

Good Morning fan base! For all you guys who believe you understand what it takes to be a good coach, here's your opportunity!(without silly sarcasm) lets say Phil taps you on the shoulder & says coach this team to the playoffs & he'll reward you with a million dollars! Our remaining ten games has above average point guards how will you"THE COACH" plan to defend them with our current roster while scoring enough points to win the games? I'm not a Woody fan or hater but I read a lot of the blogs displeasure with him so I want to hear simple solutions if you were "THE COACH"!  

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Away on in Greece on my honeymoon...had to check in on my Knicks...game and a half out..let's go!! Get in...and its all 0-0....although the laker loss was disappointing Knicks will make this push!!

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

Bag that. The entire post (no disrespect, HD)

Dude's making millions of dollars, and he'll still get paid next year even though he'll be unemployed.

He's destroyed this team in every possible facet. His lack of coaching and leadership has led players to regress in unexpected fashion, and every single weakness he's had as a coach and leader have been tremendously exposed.

He's thrown players under the bus, and has shown little to no life when it comes to truly breaking down how his team lost multiple games in pathetic fashion over and over again.

Sure, it sucks being the lame duck, but this is something many coaches go through, and many GM's throughout the league have to live with at same status.

There's absolutely no justfications for all the screw ups Woodson has made this season.


Obviously the players are to blame as well. I can't give Chandler, for example, a pass. He was probably the first to give up. Felton incredible regression has no explanation. The way players like Beno (never was a big fan of his game) and MWP were handled was beyond ridiculous.

His "defensive minded coach" status has been completely destroyed, as well as his capabilities to "hold players accountable". This is evident by the way his entire team gave up on him 3 months into the season.

His lack of adjustments, his consistent mistakes toward end of games, his managing of minutes, his awful rotations and lineups, and the fact that it took him all but 60+ games to find a decent formulas speaks volume about this guy's negligence.

I've never seen a coach take so many steps backwards as a professional.

I don't feel bad at all, especially because he'll be getting paid all through next year, and, knowing this league, he'll still find a job somewhere. And if it isn't in the league, he'll likely get a job at the college level.


This dude has done nothing to earn my respect.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Don't feel to bad for Woody, I guarantee that Since Woody would never get another head coaching job in the NBA again, the Knicks will use him in some capacity in the front office as reward for being a good soldier.

cole3244
cole3244

nice post but showing a little class won't go over very well with the four letter word crowd no nothings on this site, they will continue to throw out their insults since their bb knowledge is as limited as their vocabulary.

Josh Gabriel
Josh Gabriel

The Hawks are doing everything humanly possible to give the Knicks the 8th seed. Knicks aren't cooperating.

lpeezy31
lpeezy31

Don't get ya hopes up, not w/ this team

bigdishing
bigdishing

What is stopping Jackson from helping Woodson with a practice or two? Get these bums to rotate on defense. Actually, I'd love to see him just coach the team for the next couple of weeks, though that would be kinda classless. 

franktkb
franktkb

Atlanta is 6-19 over last 25, including a 5 game winning streak.

franktkb
franktkb

I'm convinced that the most important guy on Atlanta is Korver. They don't win without him. Atlanta has the Wizards in DC on Saturday. Not an easy game.

zebeto
zebeto

ATL going down !!! Knicks need to take care of buisiness tommorow !!! I need some HEART !!!!!!!!!

Anti_u
Anti_u

Could of been in the 8th spot tonight, if they didn't lack heart.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@OLDKNICK  Sheer will has gotten the team their wins. They are on there own and Melo knows that. It's as though they don't even have a coach. The assistant coaches are all lame ducks as well with no contract extensions---like their gonna do their best at the job. 

Atleast Woody is gonna get paid his millions. The assistants get squat.

Chris
Chris

@firebaldy  Coaching is not easy and woody is not only ignorant of what it takes but he is also stubborn. he kills his young players and demoralizes the others. 

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@OLDKNICK  JR can score and Phil is pragmatic. If he can't get rid of him might as well play to his strengths, minimize his weaknesses and possibly even send him to drug counseling. Phil sent Metta to a psych so....

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@tifoso6 you are the expert on what it takes to be the best coach in the nba.....incredible.

tifoso6
tifoso6

@Ray Jorge  Because he failed to develop Murray there are no really good options.  Shumpert can be used.  But it really depends on the team you are playing.  You have to use some double teams if the other team has a weak shooter.  Because he did not use Tyler enough this limits your options.  Tyler at the power forward and Chandler can close up the middle.  But because Woody did not have the sense to develop his options by using Murray and failing to recognize that neither felton nor prigs can stop a fast guard,  there is no good answer at this point.

1harris1
1harris1

The key is to win 2 out of the 3 remaining games on this road trip, and then win all of your remaining home games. No easy task, but that's 36 victories right there with those wins alone.

Still think it's a longshot. I took a look at Atlanta's schedule and I see 37 victories for them when all is said and done (based on games they should win and lose ). Atlanta's upcoming schedule includes home games to the 76ers, Pistons, Celtics , as well as a road game at Milwaukee. It's hard to imagine them losing any of those games, even as bad as they're playing. They also have home games against Cleveland and Charlotte .

buddhabing
buddhabing

@johneco  With that remaining schedule the Knicks will have earned the 8th spot if they get in unless Atlanta loses the rest of their games and Knicks get in through the back door.....lol

tommy2b
tommy2b

@MeloStat301  Congrats on getting married ;)  I hope the Knicks make the playoffs for you!

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@bockers  Given that we have no draft picks to work with now....it's no use to really mention it.

We'll see what Jax's scouting capabilities are once 2015 comes around.

Maybe we see some draft day trades in 2014.

I don't see Chandler finishing his contract in NY. He still has value and he'll be an expiring contract, while being a player that commands a lot of interest and respect around the league.

Amare's probably the dumbest player alive, but his expiring contract can also be of use next season.

AB, however, will be unmovable unless Jax somehow manages to get him to opt out...which seems impossible.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@VerySilentJay  Yup I don't need to hear about the pain of millionaires who are going to suffer the indignity of having to NOT earn their millions.

lindro88
lindro88

I doubt Woody is done coaching. He'll wind up as an assistant somewhere, and could possibly wind up a HC again some day. He's had many winning seasons in this league, and while he's had a terrible season, outside of NY it's more about the players.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@cole3244  Is this a joke post?  Criticizing others' vocabulary and calling them "no" nothings?  Using no capitalization and a run-on sentence?  Well done lol.

lindro88
lindro88

"Knicks got that". Lol. What Knicks team have you been watching?

Andrew Sodergren
Andrew Sodergren

@moneyball @Harris DeckerWoodson would still be gone, in my opinion. Unless the improbable happened and the Knicks got into the NBA Finals. Phil will want to get his guy in here, and a few upsets in a terrible Eastern Conference won't change that. Doubt Knicks even get into the playoffs. Their schedule is pretty tough coming up.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@bigdishing  

"though that would be kinda classless." Hey, that's never stopped the Knicks before! Lol


I think Phil and Woody just operate on two different frequencies...Phil might feel that to be a waste of time this late in the season.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@franktkb  

Seriously...Korver opens up everything for the rest of their offense, especially in the closing minutes.  He has had an UNBELIEVABLE year shooting the rock...I mean 49% from deep? Are you kidding me?

1harris1
1harris1

@Anti_u Could have been in the 8th spot tonight if they didn't lack talent.  They're not that good.

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@tifoso6 developing a player takes at least two years.....I can assure you Murray has learned more than knew prior to joining the Knicks. 

MeloStat301
MeloStat301

Thanks bro! Really appreciate that...in the Lobby with the free WiFi checking in..haha...:0). Hope we make the playoffs as well...as they say...anything can happen.

Mel Brown
Mel Brown

@tommy2b If you want Shakespearean style English go sign up to a Harvard forum or blog.  People are here to express themselves in a very abbreviated fashion.....I guess you're the model of excellence in ALL you do.

Anti_u
Anti_u

More talented than the Cavs and Lakers. Especially since both of teams were playing without their best players.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@OLDKNICK @firebaldy  Re: the Knicks giving up 51 points in a qtr, Woody said, "That's never happened since I've been here." Hellooooo Woody! That's never happened period! Wtf.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@thatsagoodpoint @OLDKNICK @firebaldy  If Phil does smoke (which I doubt) he doesn't need JR's grimy connections who sell that chemicalized shiit.

1harris1
1harris1

@Kiyan Carter We're not that good Kiyan.  We have some talent, but it's not functional.  Who besides Carmelo is clearly a top 50 player in the NBA?  Tyson?


Should we be better than Atlanta and Charlotte?  Yeah, I'm not going to argue that point.  And we've lost so many games at home to awful teams: Philly, Boston, Sacramento, N.O without Anthony Davis for virtually the entire game, Cleveland without Kyrie; throw in road losses to Milwaukee and Orlando.   That you can pin on our coach, who in my view deserves no sympathy for his current plight, good guy or not.


It's a combination of flawed talent (collectively speaking), and a substandard coach (at least for this season) who doesn't know how to consistently maximize the talent we have.  That's why we brought in Phil.  Things have to change. 

1harris1
1harris1

@Anti_u  I hear you, but we're also 8-25 against plus .500 teams this year.  That stat is very telling.