The sad truth about last night & this season

Harris Decker

Mike WoodsonLast night, the Knicks played a competitive game, almost beating the Toronto Raptors. If not for a huge drop off in the level of play during the 4th quarter, they would have pulled out the win. The Raptors sit in first place in the Atlantic Division, placing them in the playoffs. If the Knicks had won, they would have pulled to within 2 games of a playoff spot.

Carmelo Anthony sat out last night with a leg injury and it’s safe to say that with him on the court, the Knicks likely win that game. He is the type of player that can beat a team like the Raptors by himself. Sure it’s been an up and down season for him but last night, he would have made a difference.

So where does that leave us as Knicks fans?

Come April, the Knicks will be competing for the Atlantic Division title. They are as talented as any team in the division and Anthony is the best player in the division. He will get them into that position.

But what does that mean for the Knicks? They aren’t as good as any of the potential playoff teams outside the Atlantic and will likely be one and done in the playoffs. They don’t have a draft pick in 2014 so tanking doesn’t make sense. A playoff birth seems like the only thing to play for and the promise of winning anything once April arrives seems like an impossibility.

For now, it will have to be enough. We can all look to 2015 and the potential of a slew of free agents coming to New York. But for 2013, this is it. The Knicks are a bad team in a weak division. They are the most talented in a group of very unimpressive teams. The Nets and Knicks will battle into April once they get their feet under them. The Atlantic Division will continue to be the weakest in the NBA and fighting to be bounced in the first round will have to be enough for ’13-’14.

584 comments
Nell
Nell

Where is Tyler? Want to start rebuilding, get Tyler here, rid yourself of Chris Smith, get rid of Felton, Shump, JR, Aldrich and Beno and get some guys that can run the floor and shoot. Oh yea, get a coaching staff non related to CAA and actually run practice and coach

frankieboy
frankieboy

Sad truth is NYK will most likely not make playoffs , lose Melo , fire Woodson and ultimately start from stretch the hard way .


OR


They can trade Melo at deadline to Clippers in a multiplayer deal with Tyson and others and getting younger and faster. 



Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

Gee Wally, if Bargs isn't rebounding, he shouldn't be on the floor. This, just after giving Chandler a pass for his rebounding tonight even though since Chandler has come back, Bargs has regularly out-rebounded him. Nothing like a balanced review of the players.

fasheezee
fasheezee

Woody saying Toure was the reason they lost the game. What a cokesucker!

Wicksell
Wicksell

Would you guys think less of me if I cried?

knick4life
knick4life

Not that this is all Woodson's fault but what a disaster of a weekend. Hopefully the organization goes in a different direction.

maceinyourface
maceinyourface

This team need to subtract some players more then it need to add players

madskills
madskills

So Dolan basically promised the team that they're going to continue to be horrible...smh

fasheezee
fasheezee

Enough. Get out of NYC Woodson.

jax13
jax13

I guess playing the raps twice in the last two days did not give chandler enough time for chandler to take out his aggression on people....how bout starting the game with that fire

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Orlando has moved ahead of us and if Philly wins, they will also.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

This season is over, if you really have a plan for 2015, you have to trade Tyson. You can't just finish this season with 20 wins and not have a lottery pick and keep things the way they are. Tyson is not part of our future and has value.

Wicksell
Wicksell

so we're 9-21 after tonight. With the upcoming schedule what are we most likely to end up with next week?

rkj473
rkj473

If Woodson goes with the same starting llineup next game he is an idiot. Start Murry- THJr- SHump-STAT-Chandler... go to war with those guys. Enough of this Beno and Bargs crap.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Maybe Chandler should have shown that fight in the 3rd quarter

Wicksell
Wicksell

Who was Chandler trying to punch?

bockers
bockers

Mills need to trade some player before they lose all value.

jax13
jax13

Chandler is a moron. Enough already.....

tommy2b
tommy2b

Chandler wants to fight. Lowry clowning us.  Just another night of Knicks basketball.

bockers
bockers

Insanity: doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

tommy2b
tommy2b

Chandler settling some scores

jax13
jax13

Chandler gettin plunked by a 21 yr old

moneyball
moneyball

Lowry 29 points- 11 Dimes- 8 Rebounds

However ..Shumpert > Lowry???????????

Dev Rangam
Dev Rangam

Been saying this forever. The Clippers r the only team that we can get full value for Melo. They r also 1 of the few teams that he would resign with to ensure team they can trade studs ie Blake, Deandre, picks. Trade Melo!

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@Jerry Gee Last night, it was whoever is the strength and conditioning coach, tonight it was Murry. He'll eventually throw everybody under the bus but JR and Melo. But I'm sure that Melo, back in NYC, is spending this Saturday night resting his ankle and not going out on the town.

tommy2b
tommy2b

He has to guard Stat or Bargnani's man as well as being the only guy who actually rotates and helps defensively.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@madskills Again, in so many sports, an endorsement by the owner usually becomes the kiss of death. Be patient.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@jax13 How about using more than two fouls nad knock some people down and grab the rebounds that he's allegedly being paid to get.

madskills
madskills

@Sandro Guedes Lowry's 32pts is equivalent to 15pts against everyone else but your point still stands.

madskills
madskills

@bockers Only players with any value are probably Melo, Chandler and Hardaway Jr.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@moneyball It doesn't matter. The Raptors never wanted Shump for Lowry unless a 1st round pick or THjr was included as well.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@tommy2b He has to guard Bargs man when Bargs is stuck out on the arc on a switch or running out on a corner shooter that the guards can't seem to cover.

Wicksell
Wicksell

@Seth Nadler 20  games below .500.....scary thought. I really hope it doesnt happen.

bockers
bockers

@madskills@bockers Chandler,Shump,JR Smith,Bargnani and Felton  .Package Shump and Chandler for a top 6 point guard and a rebounding center who can get 10 points per game.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@OLD_KNICK@Mr.Boots@ExpectTheWorst Since Chandler has come back, Bargs has out-rebounded him and, of course scored more points regularly. You just heard Wally make excuses for Chandler's numbers by saying he's "confused" and "out of place on the arc." You never hear them make the same case for Bargs.


Seems like Woody and the post-game guys have no problem trashing Bargs and excusing Chandler. Bargs can't perform 4th quarter if he's sitting or open constantly and not getting the ball. They are wasting what they paid for him. Look at the numbers.

tommy2b
tommy2b

Denver traded it to Orlando.  The Magic are sitting pretty in the 2014 draft lottery.

tommy2b
tommy2b

yeah they could've run out the clock