To keep winning ways, Knicks have to look past Heat

Harris Decker

Carmelo Anthony, LeBron JamesThe Knicks take on the Miami Heat inside Madison Square Garden on Thursday night. This nationally-televised game is sure to draw interest but it’s not the marquee matchup that TNT imagined when the schedule came out. The Heat have 27 wins and have won 5 of the last 6. The Knicks sit at just 12-22.

TV ratings aside, taking on the Heat is never an easy task. The Knicks will put up a good fight and, win or lose, it’s important for the team to remember the big picture. Over the next few weeks, the Knicks have a chance to go on a real run, gaining ground in the Atlantic Division and working to turn their season around.

After the Heat, the Knicks schedule takes them into matchups against the 76ers, Suns and Bobcats, before they travel to Indiana to take on the Pacers.

No matter what happens tonight, the Knicks can’t let it effect them, even if LeBron James does what he does all over their home court. The rest of the season is more important than any one game, and while beating the Heat would be great, gaining ground in the division over the next few weeks is far more important.




91 comments
SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

I read this heading and thought I missed the game lol. Harris, you wrote the heading like it was a game recap..like this game already took place lol. 

lindro88
lindro88

I think this blog has bottomed out. People posting about the fans not being supportive enough. Blaming Breen for not being a cheerleader. I think It's time to take an exit ramp off TKB.

lobcity1
lobcity1

I just want Dolan's Knicks to start winnning games again.

melo7
melo7

Telling everyone what they already know great write up as usual Harris decker

rkj473
rkj473

I'm sorry but can this blog get a new "Lead Writer?" The current "Lead Writer" is abysmal and clueless. Not to mention he is blatantly stating that the Knicks don't focus on the most current opponent. That is atrocious reporting/ writing. Harris is the JR Smith of this blog.

po_diddley
po_diddley

We can beat any team in this league when we play up to our potential, injuries or not.  BEAT THE HEAT!

lobcity1
lobcity1

We will compete tonight. If we play to our potential we could win but i'm not counting on it.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

Hopefully the Heat can at least re-awaken the MSG crowd.  Place has been a mausoleum this year; not that there's been a lot to cheer for with a 5-12 home record.  

and1buckets
and1buckets

Move the ball,penetrate and dish,stop the opponents 1 and 2's from getting in the lane from the 3pt line...oh, what's that ...  Ray's back? 


*NEVER MIND

lindro88
lindro88

So things are so bad that the Knicks should be focusing on the lesser teams coming up, rather than just keeping things real simple and focusing on beating the team they play tonight. Every time I think I think Harris Decker has hit a new level of stupidity, he tops himself. How about playing them one at a time, regardless of who is on the schedule.

ds2488
ds2488

Let's see if all this JR talk motivates him to start playing basketball again.  Guy has been one of the worst, and laziest, players in the NBA so far this year.  I watch full games where it looks like he's just going through the motions, going 3 pt line to 3 pt line and never to the paint.  Maybe all this talk of trade and benching him will finally get him motivated enough to play.


Either way, I'd say this is getting to be a last chance type of situation for him.  No reason to play him over Timmy, Shump, and even Toure anymore, and unfortunately it's been that way all season basically but the "coach" hasn't done it yet.  

lindro88
lindro88

Grow up. This is the NBA in NYC, not College hoops in Bloomington Indiana. Those are kids not lazy, knuckleheads making millions of dollars to embarrass themselves.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@zdiddy4nyk @SheSaidSpikeWho Fans criticized Ewing back in the day for saying he wasn't clutch or he couldn't get it done. I really don't think they booed the way they boo recently. I mostly remember MSG being a tough place to play for the opposing team. 


I don't claim that Knicks fans are perfect. With that said, there's a difference between a funk and just not trying though. The Knicks fans will give a standing ovation at the end of a qtr if you showed that you busted your butt out there. Fans are fickle. Most just want to see heart, pride, and effort. Those attributes pretty much describe most NY'ers. It's what we identify with. That has been missing more often than not this year. 

mfnlu69
mfnlu69

@zdiddy4nyk Mike Breen doesn't hate on the Knicks, he just speaks the truth when they're playing like dookie...which up until the last 4 games, has been the entire year. And I wasn't aware the play by play guys help the team win basketball games. You're an idiot.

lindro88
lindro88

You think having moron homers calling the games is the issue? I don't mean to be condescending but you sound like a 14 year old. Bid you actually are a 14year old, keep up the good work.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@zdiddy4nyk 

We need go out and find last year's fans. They propelled the team to a 31-10 home record. 

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@zdiddy4nyk Chill out Z. Mike Breen isn't the reason the Knicks don't win lol. Neither are the fans. The heat won the championship last year despite being down. Towards the end, the fans didn't even respect them enough to boo...they just left lol. Fans respond to the product on the court. They pay to see the team perform. 

ds2488
ds2488

@DolanitisDr Most, if not all, arenas would be mausoleums if their teams played the way the Knicks have at the Garden this year.  Look back at all the noon game blowouts, wire to wire losses, and just overall poor efforts against bad teams and it's very understandable why the crowd has been quiet.  


Even that Detroit win- For 3/4 of the game it was very poor basketball being played and very poor effort being displayed.  


I think the crowd is trying to wake up and will tonight if the Knicks put in a good effort.  

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@DolanitisDr MSG  crowd isn't what it used to be back in the day. Old school crowd was like another sixth man. Now it's about getting your picture taken, more celebrities that don't really care about the final results, and jacked up prices that keep real fans out of the Garden.

MSG isn't really filled with hardcorde fans anymore.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@and1buckets 

Ray has always been fool's gold as the Knicks' premier PG.   Why Woodson thinks he was worthy of a guaranteed starting role (alongside the likes of legitimate difference-makers like Carmelo and Tyson) and 30+ min/game is beyond me.

rkj473
rkj473

@kneggyknik Sure, if you want to completely ignore the last 4 games. Even though they are more current than that 41-point lost.

lindro88
lindro88

He's not the lead writer. It's not his job to write something interesting. Thank God it's not your job either.

ds2488
ds2488

@DolanitisDr @and1buckets Ray is fool's gold as a starting pg.  I've said it forever with him.  He's always been bottom 10/bottom 5 out of all NBA starters.  He'd be a fine backup, but as a starter being counted on to play starter's minutes it's just unfair to him.  He can't do it and will break down eventually.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@zdiddy4nyk It sounds like you're saying that since fans watch the games at home, they go to the game and think about Breen's recent commentary and then they boo. I just don't think that happens. It has never happened to me. Breen's commentary has no effect whatsoever on how I feel about the Knicks. The Knicks, however, do. 



No reason to boo Patrick. I was younger then and just loved Ewing to no end. I loved those teams to no end. It makes me sick to my stomach when I see the lack of effort from our current players...it's as if they take this whole thing for granted. 

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@SheSaidSpikeWho @zdiddy4nyk 

And unlike the Miami fans who left early when they thought their team was about to lose the Finals, all the Knicks crowd stayed, stood up and cheered for the Knicks' season after the buzzer sounded in '99.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@SheSaidSpikeWho @zdiddy4nyk  

"Look how they respond to a Kenyon Martin block when he comes out of nowhere to save a bucket. Look at how they respond when Tyson sells out and dives to the floor for a ball or gives us 2 or 3 chances at a shot by tapping it back out. Look at how the fans respond when Shump turns into a defending monster and is just all out hustle. "

THANK YOU.  This ish gets standing Os from the crowd.  (Maybe because in this Knick era these instances are few and far between)

K-Mart "gets it".

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@zdiddy4nyk No Miami fans don't boo. They just leave. And when their team is not doing well, they don't go to the games.  Knicks fans still go (as dumb or as wise as that may be lol).

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@zdiddy4nyk @SheSaidSpikeWho The fans at the game don't hear Breen talking about the game! Breen doesn't even call all the Knicks games. 


How often do you hear OKC players say in their post game interviews "We're just not trying. Sometimes we do. Sometimes we don't." What?! So you expect people that spent anywhere from $200 to $1500 to cheer for someone who says "ehh we may try...we may not"? The Lakers and Celtics? The two teams that have won more championships than we could dream of? What do they have to be negative about? Laker fans boo too though. 


Want to know what I notice about Knicks fans? Look how they respond to a Kenyon Martin block when he comes out of nowhere to save a bucket. Look at how they respond when Tyson sells out and dives to the floor for a ball or gives us 2 or 3 chances at a shot by tapping it back out. Look at how the fans respond when Shump turns into a defending monster and is just all out hustle. Then look at how the fans respond when JR spins in circles at the 3 point line only to chuck up a terrible shot. Look what happens when we MOVE OUT OF THE WAY so the opposing team can stroll to the basket. Look at how Knicks fans respond when 3 of our players stand around and watch the other team hustle for a rebound. Knicks fans don't understand not trying, ZDiddy. That is inexcusable. Hustle your ass off and Knicks fans will be able to stomach the results a little better than a team just not showing up. 

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@zdiddy4nyk @BiggieSmalls @VerySilentJay @thatsagoodpoint I'm hesitant to talk about OKC's fans. I'll wait until they have had a team for a long time and go through the hard times that most franchises eventually go through. I find it hard to be a die-hard fan of a team that just moved to your town 5 years ago. It's weird to me lol. They are very loud though.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@BiggieSmalls @SheSaidSpikeWho It's true. I have had seats 3 rows behind Howard Stern and some behind the backboard seats. It was great because those were the first few times I had ever sat so close. I'm a crazy fan so I don't care about the uptight folks next to me. I'm loud and obnoxious lol. That's why I only date guys who are crazy Knicks fans like me otherwise I just seem crazy lol. However, as times have changed, the upper seats have gotten more expensive thereby weeding out the people that can't afford it. 

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Ryan Postal @VerySilentJay @thatsagoodpoint I think it's just because the fan culture has changed.

That old school fan mentality isn't there anymore. Today you have your bandwagoners, fans betting against their own teams, fans who stop rooting if the team has a negative seasno, fans getting pissed off and demanding trades and destruction if they don't win a ring...

Also....

Most of the fanbase today became accustomed to mediocre ball led by mediocre management and a team that became a laughingstock. We went from a gritty, tough, balls to the walls winning team with a passionate fanbase to a younger group that was less passionate, a bit softer, accustomed to losing.


Also tough rivalries have disappeared ever since the league went soft with all these ridiculous rules, which also takes away that little "extra spice" for certain matchups. 

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@thatsagoodpoint @VerySilentJay That's not a valid argument, imo.

Regardless of how entertaining the cities are, it's about taking the time to see your team and having the passion to cheer for them non stop and helping them in any way they can when they play at home.

The Garden crowd now is filled with people with too much money and little concern for the fans, and prices are keeping the real fans out, fans that are willing to turn MSG into a hostile place to play in.

I don't really picture Ben Stiller or Chris Rock getting in player's ears.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@VerySilentJay @thatsagoodpoint 

And the "celebrity"/"corporate" and pricing factors seem more prevalent in MSG than other arenas.  Even Knicks nosebleed tix are double what you find in most other arenas..

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@thatsagoodpoint @VerySilentJay You go to OKC and you'll find a college atmosphere there. The crowd smothers you.

SA as well.

Boston crowd isn't exactly the friendly type either.

Yes, there are arenas tougher to play in because the crowd puts in the work.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@ds2488 @DolanitisDr @and1buckets 

I really think with these line-ups that Ray fits better off the bench as a change-of-pace backup.  Ray doesn't run an offense, he just runs P&R with Tyson/Amar'e.  He takes way too damn long to cross half-court and set up the offense, and misses entry-pass opportunities when Carmelo has established good post position.  And he can't make teams pay when they double Carmelo in the post.


They should just let Ray run loose off the bench with Amar'e/Tyson while Carmelo is sitting.

lindro88
lindro88

I was joking. No team needs JR and his 3 year contract to tank.

lindro88
lindro88

It's too bad JR is under contract for 3 years. He'd be a perfect addition to a team trying to tank.