Watch: Chris Carlin discusses the future of Carmelo Anthony January 28th, 2014 9:23 am Sorry, this video could not be loaded… Like this:Like Loading... 63 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest MeloStat301 5pts Going through Knicksnow photos, looks as if H20 is giving Shump pointers again on that J. orlando_knickfan 5pts Pacers would be stupid as stupid to trade for Lowry. Firstly, he is going to cost more than Hill in the long run. They don't need any more offense . Thridly, getting Granger on Toronto does not work because he is also at the end of his contract and his knees are broke.The "Gypsy" would want Stephenson which would cause an instant dial tone.Trade has no chance. onewhoknix 5pts http://www.prosportsdaily.com/articles/pacers-want-to-trade-for-kyle-lowry-286964.htmlWow that would be scary. Man it must be great to have management with a brain. rico 5pts Maybe the Suns will take Amare back for their playoff run. He'd be great with Dragic. Next year he'd be a 25 dollar expiring tract to trade or let expireand I am SURE Dolan would agree to pay the entire 25 mil.This actually makes sense OLDKNICK 5pts “I did notice during the game Melo and Kevin were jawing a lot at each other,’’ she writes. “But that’s basketball, the heat of the game. I really didn’t think anything of it. But when Melo went to have words with him, I knew it had to be more than an in-game beef.“I asked Melo about it and all he said was that Kevin said things you shouldn’t stay to a person you have a friendship with or respect for. [Melo] told him I’m not some rookie. We’ve been in this league a while together so don’t treat me the way you’d treat a rookie. I’m sure the words were a little stronger than that but that was the gist of what Melo said back to Kevin.’’http://nypost.com/2014/01/28/la-la-anthony-reveals-in-book-garnett-didnt-say-cheerios/ Knicks_Fanatic 5pts Maybe I'm missing something on the Okafor for Chandler trade. Okafor is out indefinitely with neck surgery and may not be able to play again. He is an expiring contract and the Knicks would need to sign him unless they feel that Tyler and/or Aldrich is a quality NBA center. If they do sign Okafor, there is no certainty about his minutes and production.Chandler is a former DPOY, starter in the All-Star game, and Olympic team center. It would be clearly a step down, especially in light trying to build a Championship team. Maybe Chandler is overpaid, but that is par for the course at the center position. Kenny Kaufman 5pts If given a choice, who would you rather have join Knicks. Lamarcus Aldridge or Kevin Love? rico 5pts I'm fine with hearing or reading what Cris Carlin says. I get no excitement in "see what chris carlin says" just sayin' darealeric 5pts Future? WHAT FUTURE? this season and franchise are a slow motion train wreck and they expect him to stay? Everyone is just standing idly by holding their d-cks in their hands refusing to make any moves. orlando_knickfan 5pts @MeloStat301 Wasting his time yet again. EVERYONE is trying to fix Shump's shot. LOL. What they need to do, is hire a coach that can teach him a handle and decision making. They also need one to teach him how to finish. On second thought, just give him THJR minutes because he can do ALL OF THAT ALREADY. StraightShot 5pts @orlando_knickfan "They don't need any more offense."Huh? It's defense that the Pacers have in spades, as far and away the best defensive team in the league. They are the 19th-best offense.George Hill is a great fit for what the Pacers do - he defends and doesn't turn the ball over. Lowry, while more erratic, offers more offensive punch but is still no slouch defensively.And it's not just a matter of whether or not Ujiri can land Stephenson - he will have to compare the Pacers' best offer to the rest of the market. It's not like the Pacers have no bargaining power here either, and they have 1st-rounders to spare. MeloStat301 5pts @orlando_knickfan Exactly...expect Raptors to ask for Lance. OLDKNICK 5pts @onewhoknix A great team gets better if this trade goes down orlando_knickfan 5pts @onewhoknix Should have done it when we had the chance. However, Lowry does NOT fit that team. He is offense first and they have enough offense. That's why Hill is PERFECT for their system. StraightShot 5pts @onewhoknix Wow the Pacers' situation obviously ain't broke, but Lowry seems like a great roster and culture fit for their ballclub.... VerySilentJay 5pts @rico Hmmmm....no it doesn't. Knicks_Fanatic 5pts @OLDKNICK I wonder if Dolan is still recording what is said to Melo on the court.http://sports.yahoo.com/blogs/nba-ball-dont-lie/knicks-owner-james-dolan-had-employees-record-carmelo-175052823--nba.html StraightShot 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic The trade would purely be for the draft pick...Okafor is irrelevant other than salary-match. The trade would be made with the belief that building a championship team around the current group is infeasible. It's a step-down in the short term for flexibility elsewhere (have two draft picks to throw at Boston for Rondo, or throw one away for Lowry and another for Larry Sanders, etc.). Personally, I'm not in favor of an in-season Chandler trade, but I'd like to see the Knicks look into trading him during the summer.Chandler has many "former" accolades, but the Knicks have to assess what he can bring to the table now and for the next 3-4 years. As a Knick, he hasn't produced any meaningful playoff impact, and his regular season on-court impact appears to be diminishing .... unsurprising for a 31 year-old with a lot of NBA miles. Knicks are in a position where they will need to weigh their playoff prospects this season as well as in the years to come... saintknick 5pts @Kenny Kaufman Aldridge is one of the best players in the NBA, but can be an all-star as a Robin to Melo's Batman because he does everything on the court and doesn't need the ball in his hands.Kevin Love is the better player (right now) but he needs to be the guy to be the most effective.The other option is to not sign Melo, and instead use the 55 million you'd then likely have in 2015 to sign Aldridge, a PG (bledsoe?), and K.Love. Thats a scary scary team. The NBA is full of useful SGs and SFs. If you can have A+ players at C and PF, and a solid next tier guy at PG, you gotta do it. VerySilentJay 5pts @Kenny Kaufman Aldrige, no doubt. He can actually defend and cares more about doing that instead of rebounding.That being said, if you had to choose someone to help Melo, you go for a star PG. No doubt about it. Kiyan Carter 5pts I like having Aldridge as a low post player but kevin love and melo in a pick and pop situation would be lethal....idk im torn between the two thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Heartcore I would absolutely make that trade. Chandler for Okafor and a draft pick would prove to be a pretty decent contingency plan should Melo walk away. If he doesn't it gives us a draft pick. knicks50 5pts @Heartcore I'd rather the Knicks trade for the Lakers 2015 pick that the Suns have. The 2015 draft will be an even better draft and deeper too with more pg and center prospects! Biggie 5pts @Heartcore I would trade Chandler for Okefor and a first. give the minutes to Tyler and the big white guy.i'd take any of the protected picks they own.. Minny top 13, Wiz top 12 or Indy top 14i wouldnt do it straight up. orlando_knickfan 5pts @DolanitisDr Lowry will take away shots from West, Hibbert, and George. That's not what you want. rico 5pts @VerySilentJay @rico why not? Stat is a hometown hero down there. They need inside scoring..they don't need Oka.And if Dolan paid the 25 mil owed to Stat, the Suns (who are not spenders) would have a productive player (when healthy) who is also a home town herofor free. OLDKNICK 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic @OLDKNICK Ya never know xmenreturn 5pts @Knicks_FanaticMost of the words to Melo caught on the recordings are "PASS THE DARN BALL! or It's ISO Time and I can just stand here!" xmenreturn 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic@OLDKNICKMost of the words to Melo caught on the recordings are "PASS THE DARN BALL! or It's ISO Time and I can just stand here!" thatsagoodpoint 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic@OLDKNICK Probably just contracted that job out to NSA. Biggie 5pts @DolanitisDr @Knicks_Fanatic i disagree thjat a Chandler for Okafor deal would be a throw in the towel deal.Would it set the team up for more future flexibility? of course..a future first round draft pick wuold be nice .. but At this point I have confidence that Tyler and Aldrich can provide us with 70% of What Chandler gives us., And when Kmart and Stat get back we can more than fill the minutes. I not giving up on the season and I'd pull the trigger on Chandler for Okafor plus a first. Knicks_Fanatic 5pts @DolanitisDr@Knicks_Fanatic If Chandler is traded for a middle first draft pick, the Denver Nuggets will be the winner of that trade. The loss of Chandler for nothing will insure a high lottery pick for Denver.Right now the Wizards (one of the Phoenix picks) have the 17th pick based on current standings. That would result in someone named Sam Dekker. Not sure that Sam Dekker for Tyson Chandler is a wise move. saintknick 5pts @knicks50 @Heartcore is that a protected pick? kneggyknik 5pts @Biggie@HeartcoreDont be racist, biggie. rgm891 5pts @Biggie @Heartcore You guys think the Knicks are going to even entertain any sort of trades by the deadline? Or wait it out until the offseason or during next season. What u think? StraightShot 5pts @orlando_knickfan @DolanitisDr As an offensive threat, Lowry will also create shots and opportunities for his teammates - something Hill is not adept at doing. In fact, Hill has expressed in interviews that he feels more comfortable as a 2-guard. Biggie 5pts @Heartcore at least make an attempt to propose a trade that would work under the rules.what they dont have access to ESPN trade machine in Angola? StraightShot 5pts @Biggie @DolanitisDr "And you know im not in the "throw in the towel" camp"Yes - did not mean to imply that you were part of that camp, only expressing that I don't think a Tyson trade is a "throw-in-the-towel" deal. Biggie 5pts @DolanitisDr maybe from an injury insurance standpoint but i'd take that risk.. I assume K Mart and Stat will be back sooner or later.. Im not expecting Bargnani anytime soon. but Metta will be back ready to contribute at the 3/4So we could get by with Shump/JR/Melo getting minutes at the 3 with Melo, MWP, Aldrich, Stat, Tyler splitting the other front court minutes.it would also diminish the log jam in the back court possibly getting Toure so minutes.When everyone gets back and healthy we'll have an abundance of players. trading Chandler for a first wouldnt hurt more tn it helps in my opinion. And you know im not in the "throw in the towel" camp StraightShot 5pts @Biggie @DolanitisDr @Knicks_Fanatic I don't think it's necessarily a "throw-in-the-towel" deal, but I do think it is a step-down for this season, if only from an injury insurance standpoint. And hardly the type of deal one would make if a championship was in sights for this season.But I tend to agree with you - in this Eastern conference, and given the Knicks' performance with and without Chandler, trading Tyson would not immediately doom the Knicks to watching the playoffs from their couches...they could stay afloat. StraightShot 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic @DolanitisDr Obviously, I was using the Boston scenario as a hypothetical...the point is that to nab a star player via trade, you need draft picks...which the Knicks have none. IF the Knicks were aware that a very good player was on the block, then a Chandler deal would be sensible as a stepping stone. Teams don't always openly advertise that a star player is on the trading block, anyway - we're not privvy to the reality on the inside (see unexpected Deron Williams trade from Utah)"If the Knicks really wanted draft picks, they wouldn't have traded 3 for Bargnani." Well, that's partially my point...Knicks could then look to swing the picks for another player, as was done in the Bargnani deal...besides, we may be discussing two different things. You are now referring to the Knicks' managerial stupidity/aversion to draft picks as a reason against the likelihood of such a trade; I am simply explaining why a Chandler trade would make some sense IF Knicks management had some brains.By the way, the Knicks are already hard to watch WITH Tyson... Knicks_Fanatic 5pts @DolanitisDr Boston has already talked to Rondo about an extension. They have never indicated he is on the block and they just named him team captain.If the Knicks really wanted draft picks, they wouldn't have traded 3 for Bargnani.If we have to spend a season and a half with Bargnani starting center, it will be hard to watch. StraightShot 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic @DolanitisDr The Denver pick is a sunk cost - it's gone. The Knicks' primary concern has to be the Knicks roster - now and moving forward...not whether or not Denver benefits. (unless embarrassment is that costly to the Knicks' organization)As I mentioned, picks are not just valuable as draft selections, but as trade assets. I'm not privvy to the inner NBA circles, but if Boston says they need two 1st-rounders for Rondo, well... Biggie 5pts @kneggyknik what'd i say that's racist? "the big white guy" .. I legitimately forgot Aldrich's name while typing.. how else should i refer to him? Dont be so upitty. rgm891 5pts @VerySilentJay @rgm891 Yeah this seems like the best case scenario. VerySilentJay 5pts @rgm891 Seems unlikely. At the most, they'll see who gets waived and take their chances on one of those sacrificing one of the last players off the bench. Biggie 5pts @rgm891 i highly doubt it. Biggie 5pts @OLDKNICK the Angola lie was uncovered easier than Water Gate OLDKNICK 5pts @Biggie @VerySilentJay Is that sandy??? Heartcore? Wow too many name changes for me to keep up. I thought he was just busy in angola. VerySilentJay 5pts @saintknick @VerySilentJay @Heartcore @Biggie Not to win per se (we both know this is hardly an option), but at least to reach the playoffs, which was the initial goal.I'd consider it an overachievement as long as Woodson sticks around, and I'll be damned if Denver gets a lottery pick out of us. saintknick 5pts @VerySilentJay @Heartcore @Biggie the question is, do you want to remove your obligations to felton in 2015 (5 mil I think, or close to it)?See, you are still intending to win this year. Biggie 5pts @VerySilentJay Sandro certainly gave up on the season after five games. Arguably in training camp. Maybe sometime in the Summer.They dont want Felton with Dragic and Bledsoe coming back (i assume he's coming back).. plus Barbosa's been playing well for them. Let's try to be real. VerySilentJay 5pts @Heartcore @Biggie Felton's the only PG we have that can generate off the dribble and get to the basket.He's not a starter but a very solid backup PG with a very good contract. Why give up the bets PG we got (even if he's a backup one)?I'm not ready to give up on the season and giving up Felton and Chandler pretty much sends whatever chances this team has of getting to the playoffs straight down the toilet.