Watch: Shumpert’s career night and putback

Iman Shumpert scored a new career-high 27 points against the Spurs as the Knicks got the win on the road, including this putback (around 1:04)…




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Honestly I was waiting for a break out game like this from Shump while slowly losing hope it would ever happen. At the beginning of the season I wrote that he would be the Knicks second best scorer. Boy was I wrong but maybe he'll now break out of his slump and play up to his potential. We sure need that from him.

saintknick
saintknick

Why I loved last night's game-


1) JR using his patented step back to draw defenders and then making the pass instead of the low-percentage shot.


2) Melo not taking all the shots in the final minute.


3) Tyson's minutes leading up to a matchup with Howard.


4) Decent game management by Woodson


5) Comments of accountability after the game


- Not getting my hopes up yet, but I wouldn't be surprised if the Knicks go over .500 in a very difficult january. Some games are write-offs, like when you beat a team by having a guy score 45, or when another team shoots 32%, or even (like for Brooklyn last night) when a team that usually gets 25 free throws only gets 19 and you get 31, and the other team misses 8 of their last 10 shots, with 6 turnovers in the final 6 minutes. Those wins are suspect as far as having meaning.


Knicks won last night because they adjusted to how the players were shooting and defense was positioning. Bargnani was used multiple times to disrupt positioning on both sides of the ball, and JR started the ball moving without eating up possessions. What is interesting is Andrea's stats look bad, but he actually played a solid game away from the ball (he led the team at +19) and Stat was atrocious even though his stats looked good (efficient 11pts, a couple blocks etc.). 


This team would be SOOOOOOOO much better if they had a guy only as good as beno on offense and murray on defense at PG, as well as a PF who can hit a respectable % but boards well and plays ok defense. NOT that I want him particularly, but Faried is so perfect for this system, where 1-on-1 defense is devalued. He would probably average 12 pts and 14 rebounds a game in NY.

saintknick
saintknick

Teams will tank. Be worried about Brooklyn and maybe Boston. Toronto needs to hit one rough patch and they'll down-shift to tank mode. IN FACT, I'll be surprised if Lowry doesn't continue to be a top 12 pg for the next few weeks up until the deadline, and end up going to a contender for a late 1st. Then toronto will enter full tank mode.


The problem is, even if the Knicks can get the Atlantic or 7-8 seed, they will likely be obliterated in the first round. 


First step is to win 1/2 against houston and dallas (dallas probably) then go win some freaking home games. Once that happens, I have 100 comments about what they can do to maximize their chances in the playoffs. But they have to show some life - more than just a bad defensive effort by San Antonio.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Not even digging out of all this snow could take away the good feeling of last night's win.  Even with the previous wins we had, they felt like losses to me.  This was the first time I saw full effort and execution.  And to make it sweeter, the win was against a quality team that didn't want to lose this game either.  

That being said, it's going to take more than one win, even against the Spurs to get me overly excited about the team.  But this was a good start to 2014.  Now let's take it to Houston.  I think Knicks should have won the previous match.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Well the NBA isn't forgiving as we are back right at it tonight against Houston a team we haven't beat in Houston since I believe Crawford hit a game winning shot. We will see if this team can carry over anything from last night. I believe they can since confidence is huge, but I can also see them getting blown out. As is the case with great efforts like last night you want to know why this hasn't been there all year and was last night a fluke or a real turning point.

knickster
knickster

Great win and great game for Shumpert!

knickfan2
knickfan2

Hopefully, Shump and the Knicks can build off of last night's win. I also want to see Murry continue to work his way into the rotation. Its hard to improve your game when your on the bench.

jax13
jax13

I hope these guys rally around a great win last nite n save the season. We can be dangerous when our effort is there......

jax13
jax13

I know jr played well last night but something that never gets talked about is how many mistakes he makes on defense. It's got to stop.

He is clueless on defense. Needs to play smarter on defense

jax13
jax13

I have hammered shump all year n was very happy to see him have that game last nite. He needs that kind of effort consistently, not scoring 27 a game but have that kind of energy, hit a decent percentage of open jumpers n be engaged.

I would start him on harden but harden is good at drawing cheap fouls n would get shump in foul trouble by 2nd qtr.....

rkj473
rkj473

I think Shump guarding Parker for the entire game help him get more engaged out there. Woodson has been reluctant to have in guard the better pg's (for whatever reason). Clearly Shump plays better when he is guarding the other teams biggest threat. Hence the reason Parker was quiet all night, however it opened the door for the sg (like Bellinelli last night) being chased/guarded by Beno. That's not a good match-up.


So for tonight's game against the Rocket, who would you have Shump guard? The pg? Harden?

JerseyFan1
JerseyFan1

Finally some positive news about Shump.

rkj473
rkj473

@knickfan2 I agree about the Murry getting consistent minutes out there. He doesn't look scared out there, in fact he has done a very good job when he is on the floor. 


That back-court with him and Shump-- there could be something there. If i'm Woody, I would want those two guys out there creating havoc on the perimeter.

rkj473
rkj473

@jax13 True, if the Knicks showed up with that effort in the previous games they would have alot more than 10 wins. 


Hopefully this effort remains consistent. 

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@jax13 I think the Knicks need to double Harden and keep the ball out of his hands as much as possible. Force someone else to beat us. 

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@rkj473 You always place Shump against the opposing team's best perimeter player.

Chris
Chris

@rkj473 Yes Shump on Parker was great, no D Beno on Bell was a different story, as was Bargs and Amarie  playing together in the second half. That was a horror show. This man is really clueless

Max Denby
Max Denby

I liked the Murrey shump lineup. That is a lockdown defensive duo.

rkj473
rkj473

@BiggieSmalls I think Shump is key as well with his energy and other intangible. I also feel like he plays better when he is guarding the other teams best player. That way he is engaged on the defensive end and not sitting in the corner guarding 3-point shooter.


For tonight's game, would you have him guard Lin or Harden? You think it is coincidence that the guy shump would normally guard last night (Bellinellli) went off with Beno guarding him?

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@BiggieSmalls Not just Shump. The guard play in general. JR needs to wake up and we need Felton to get on track as well. We are also missing what Pablo brings off the bench. Felton and Pablo were starting to build good chemistry with Bargs in the pick and pop game. 

knickfan2
knickfan2

Yeah, but hopefully the refs don't call an insane amount of fouls in Harden's favor putting him at the line 20+ times.

Chris
Chris

@NoVaCaInE @jax13 The funny thing is, after 2+ years of constant switching, and no clue on rotations, AHW is now trying to say that never happened and he dosn`t teach that. Player are even more confused now because they don`t know whether to stay or switch. To now ask them to doub might finish their brains completely. Note when he tryed to to something different last night (doub the guard on the pick and role) they had no clue how to rotate back to their man. This is really a clown show

rkj473
rkj473

@Chris @rkj473 Lol Yeah that Bargs- Amar'e line-up I don't know Woodson's thought process there.

rkj473
rkj473

@Max Denby I agree, but do you think woody (in a game like today) play the Shump- Murry backcourt against LIn and Harden. Both Shump and Murry should be able to at least contain those guys.

jax13
jax13

Love them on defense too

rkj473
rkj473

@NoVaCaInE @BiggieSmalls I think Bargs misses Prigs more than anyone. His shooting percentage is close to 50% when Prigs passes him the ball in the pick n pop. That's stunning.

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@knickfan2 I know man. It's ridiculous he was allowed 25 ft's last week. Harden's a nice player but he ain't Jordan. That's why I want the Knicks to double and trap him. Keep the ball out of his hands. 

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@Chris The constant switching kills me. Every team knows the Knicks MO and run P&R's to death. Everyone on the team switches. That's a coaching thing. i would like to see more traps and zones. The Knicks defense was so effective early last year when Tyson would come up and trap. The Knicks also used effective traps in the corners. Would like to see them get back to that. I can't stand watching our bigs defend PG's.

rkj473
rkj473

@jax13 That 2nd quarter with those two creating havoc on the perimeter was a thing of beauty. Woody should have been(ecstatic) watching that defensive intensity from his guards.


Personally he should implore that back-court more.

NoVaCaInE
NoVaCaInE

@rkj473 @NoVaCaInE @BiggieSmalls I agree. Pablo is really good off the pick and pop. He had great chemistry with Bargs. Bargs production hasn't been the same since our PG's went down.