Watch: THJr. in Rising Stars duel February 15th, 2014 12:08 pm Like this:Like Loading... 391 comments   Get Livefyre FAQ Sign in + Follow Post comment Link Newest | Oldest MeloStat301 5pts Kyrie Irving with the JR smith Jersey step back... rgm891 5pts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ay0xE1tCZeAThe NBA D League Dunk Contest was crazy. This was incredible. Knicks_Fanatic 5pts I've compared the overall stats from last year to this and there are two areas, one on offense and one on defense, that show how our season has been turned upside down.Last year we has an advantage in made 3 point field goals 891 to 629. Over a full season, we had a 9.5 point edge per game on the three ball attack. This year, our edge is 464 to 443, only a 1.2 advantage. So, we have lost 7.3 off our record setting 3 ball attack. Take the fact that we scored 100 ppg last year and 97.3 this year and that accounts for the drop off in scoring. On defense, it's the free throw totals that are significant. Last year the totals were 1313 to 1378 for a point difference of -65 or -.8. Probably fair because we attempted so many threes. This year it is 766 to 1021. That is a -255 or -4.9. So our opponents are netting 4.1 points more per game on free throws. That how you go from 95.7 ppg allowed to 99.1.Take the loss of 7.3 ppg game from the diminished three ball attack and add in the additional 4.1 free throws made and it creates a huge loss in efficiency -11.4 per game in those two areas. Last year we outscored the opposition by 4.3 per game and this year we are -1.8. That's a difference of 6.1 per game. That's how you go from 32-20 to 20-32 in the course of one season. lansdellicious 5pts @Top8Games @fivewithflores @CedricAPhillips @Marshall_LR The amount of "WTF" that video elicited... SheSaidSpikeWho 5pts It's time for Knicks to jettison Mike Woodson:http://www.northjersey.com/sports/245720901_Popper__It_s_time_for_Knicks_to_jettison_Mike_Woodson.html?c=y&page=1 BigChiefTriangle 5pts So Frazier believes the Knicks have enough time -- and enough pride -- to make a run. "There’s more than enough games ... it’s up to the team," Frazier said. "These guys, look in the mirror, the man in the mirror ... Some of these guys can’t look at the mirror, they glance at it but they can’t look at it (laughs) because they know they're not giving 100 percent." http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/53968/frazier-theres-no-defensive-intensity barnaby87 5pts Al Iannazzone, Newsday: Just about every Knick other than [Carmelo] Anthony or Tim Hardaway Jr. could be had if Knicks officials find a deal they like. ”I don’t really know exactly what’s going on right now as far as trades,” Anthony said. “There’s not that many people out there that I think can come right now in February and change our whole season.” OLDKNICK 5pts SO EFFIN SAD BUT SO EFFIN TRUE !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!http://espn.go.com/blog/new-york/knicks/post/_/id/53957/three-knicks-earning-their-paychecksTo me everyone else can be traded.... I'm just saying!!! knickgirl35 5pts i enjoyed the show. miserable people always find something to complain about. just enjoy things for what they are. OLDKNICK 5pts Perhaps truer words were never spoken by Anthony than on the first day of training camp when he was asked about the pressure that Andrea Bargnani would face in New York and Anthony just laughed at the notion. “Ain’t no pressure on him. You come here and do what you do, play ball. All the pressure’s on me.” http://blog.northjersey.com/knicks/317/carmelo-anthony-1000-watt-star-dark-situation/ Brostoevsky 5pts Kill everything but the the All-Star game and put stakes on the line (like baseball) - winning conference gets home court advantage in the finals.Sucks because the dunk contest used to be awesome, and the athleticism of this league is the draw vs other sports. Don't see any way to bring it back to what it was at this point, though NYKnickerBocker 5pts It's official, the dunk contest is dead. Wall"s dunk was nice but that's all I can say about it. The format was stupid. C0P0 5pts I'll admit I didn't expect Wall to bring that dunk. He deserved that. I'd like an All-Star 3 on 3 game to 21 instead of the crap that Bosh's Team won. BigChiefTriangle 5pts Just curious what some Knick fans think - will Tim Hardaway Jr. make at least one All-Star game over his career? (Remember, even Starks made one All-Star team) bockers 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic THREE (3) BIG REASONS.J.Kidd,Novak and Copeland. OLDKNICK 5pts @Knicks_Fanatic Good work old fella fivewithflores 5pts @CedricAPhillips @Top8Games @lansdellicious @Marshall_LR Aren't you the least bit concerned that Dion looks like an All-Star one in 4 games? Top8Games 5pts @CedricAPhillips @lansdellicious @fivewithflores @Marshall_LR Younger me cannot fathom how I could love a Hardaway so much. lansdellicious 5pts @CedricAPhillips @Top8Games @fivewithflores @Marshall_LR The whole night had spectacles, which is what I want from it. knickgirl35 5pts @SheSaidSpikeWho i like the word "jettison." get his azz on the next jet outta here!!! chudogz 5pts @oldknick. If only we could trade the owner... VerySilentJay 5pts @OLDKNICK That is some depressing sht. tjhassan3 5pts @OLDKNICK "The guess here is that young guard Toure Murry could be making a similar impact if he was given regular minutes. It would also help if Mike Woodson didn't pull him every time he made a mistake. " lindro88 5pts How about a wager. I bet Melo signs for the MAX. If he signs for less you win. "Without a doubt" in February. Lol. Those are Wolf Tickets. SheSaidSpikeWho 5pts @StraightShot He could if he gets a little stronger, improves his handle, and becomes decent on D (his knack for falling on the floor is unacceptable lol).Consistency is the key though. OLDKNICK 5pts @StraightShot Mos Def VerySilentJay 5pts @StraightShot Not with his present game. Way too premature.Right now he's a great shooter with a ton of potential.To make an All-Star game you need a lot more than that. He needs to learn to put the ball on the floor and attack the basket. For starters. A scorer has to be more than just an outside shot.Once he understands how to work defenses that close out on him he'll be able to create a lot. He needs to improve his D, maybe get some upper body strength to play some minutes at the 3.He's great in transition, but he still has a long way to go.Rebounding, D, handle, etc.The potential's very much there. He's a tremendous shooter and an outstanding athlete. If he puts in the work, who knows where he'll go. brookdon 5pts A bit early to say. People called Shump a future allstar after his first few months here before they turned on him. The SG position in the NBA is weak nowadays so if he ever improves his ball handling there's a shot C0P0 5pts Definitely. VerySilentJay 5pts @kneggyknik Yup....it's all gone to hell.I would leave the DL showcase. It's good to see the up and coming talent. BigChiefTriangle 5pts @kneggyknik Agreed. Put it out of its misery. Only people protesting would be the All-Star weekend groupies loooking to "make that paper" rgm891 5pts @kneggyknik They need to get the superstars more involved. Knicks_Fanatic 5pts @OLDKNICK @Knicks_Fanatic Thanks OLDKNICK. It's been puzzling how essentially the same team with the same coach could do a 180. This does explain the point differential and the difference between winning and losing. Many think that firing the coach and/or playing different players will solve the problem. In my competitive world in music, I've seen organizations suffer like the Knicks. They forget what made them good and try to emulate others in attempt to improve. In our case, we sought to emulate Indiana and go BIG. We had to get past the bigger teams like the Bulls and Pacers. That is a sound strategy, but we threw out the baby with the bathwater. We no longer have the shooters to knock down the threes. We lost good defenders, who played well together. CedricAPhillips 5pts @fivewithflores @Top8Games @lansdellicious @Marshall_LR He has played better over the past few weeks. Need to see it happen consistently. OLDKNICK 5pts @chudogz I would be happy to GIVE AWAY the owner. SheSaidSpikeWho 5pts @chudogz Even if we could, we couldn't. The JR Smith of owners. Kenny Kaufman 5pts Murry is overrated and just not that good of an NBA player! He doesn't dribble well enough to play point and he doesn't shoot well enough to play the 2! His defense is good but not great! rkj473 5pts @tjhassan3 @OLDKNICK This. Some fans quickly get upset and say he is garbage when he plays 2 minutes. The Kid doesn't play heart minutes and plays sparingly. Like some fans expect him to just come in a be good. If Murry was getting Felton's minutes I have no doubt he would be doing much better than Felton is.We all say this on the Texas trip when he was getting consistent minutes. I wish Woody would play the Kid and stop giving Felton so many minutes. OLDKNICK 5pts @Biggie @refguy22 The exact definition of sour puss mofos that bitch and moan on this board all the time... BigChiefTriangle 5pts @SheSaidSpikeWho @StraightShot He looked like a damn fool trying to guard Waiters. That was the sad thing - he was actually getting down into defensive stance and TRYING, unlike Waiters on the other end. BigChiefTriangle 5pts @VerySilentJay @StraightShot Rip Hamilton made 3 all-star teams from just scoring off screens. melo7 5pts @verysilentjay there's plenty of just shooters and transition guys that made all star games MeloStat301 5pts @brookdon Landry fields as well...was deemed "utouchable" by some fans during the Melo trade...how silly does that look now?? OLDKNICK 5pts @rgm891 @kneggyknik True, but how do you make a player do something he doesnt want to? lansdellicious 5pts @fivewithflores @CedricAPhillips @Top8Games @Marshall_LR Maybe they can convince Dolan... fivewithflores 5pts @CedricAPhillips @Top8Games @lansdellicious @Marshall_LR I think it's concerning. My dad for instance thinks he's better than DWade :( madskills 5pts @SheSaidSpikeWho @StraightShot I give Hardaway "credit" for trying. Waiters effort was more embarrassing to me. SheSaidSpikeWho 5pts @StraightShot @SheSaidSpikeWho Exactly. It was embarrassing lol. madskills 5pts @Chris @StraightShot Against who? I've been a Rip fan since his days at Uconn and he definitely wasn't known for his defense. I could've looked good defensively on that Pistons squad he played with lol. Chris 5pts @StraightShot Rip played D melo7 5pts @verysilentjay I think thjr is decent at taking the ball to the rim and he's a little below average off the dribble shooting..but he's deadly from three and a savage on the break so I think in years to come he'll be an all star..that's not to say he doesn't need to work on dribbling. But the rebounding anything over 3 boards a game is cool with me VerySilentJay 5pts @melo7 Nowadays? Just spot up shooters like Timmy is now? SheSaidSpikeWho 5pts @MeloStat301 @brookdon That's just crazy. I would have shipped him before I shipped Ill Will. rgm891 5pts @madskills @rgm891 @OLDKNICK @kneggyknik Yeah unfortunately you're right. Or give them incentives in their contracts if they participate. But most likely not going to happen. OLDKNICK 5pts @madskills @rgm891 @OLDKNICK @kneggyknik That is what I thought!!! madskills 5pts @rgm891 @OLDKNICK @kneggyknik They won't be able to do that. What if someone gets hurt participating in something they don't want to do? It's unfortunate that it's become more "popular" to sit in the crowd with nerd glasses on watching the festivities then it to participate but there is no way to force a player into it. The players union would never allow it. rgm891 5pts @OLDKNICK @rgm891 @kneggyknik CBA contracts. Force them in their contracts to get involved in the all star weekend like brookdon suggested.