What the heck happened last night?

Harris Decker

This season has been bad, but if you’d like to see “quit” wrapped into a single game, watch last night’s Knicks game again. That was one of the worst games I have ever watched and it’s sad to say that all hope for this season has been lost.

USATSI_7833845_110579513_lowresAt the end of the first quarter in Los Angeles, the Knicks held a 22-14 lead. The first quarter on its own was very impressive. The defense was smothering and the offense was moving the ball and hitting shots.

All of that hard work vanished in the second and third quarters. In the second, the Knicks surrendered 36 points to a group of players that many fans wouldn’t know from a hole in the wall. Kobe Bryant, Steve Nash and Pau Gasol all sat out, while guys like Xavier Henry and Nick Young led the Lakers right past the Knicks.

At the half, the Knicks trailed 50-42. Then, the third quarter happened.

In that quarter, the Knicks were outscored 51-31. Those 51 points broke records for both teams. Despite a pedigree of players that includes Wilt Chamberlain, Jerry West, Magic Johnson and Kobe , this star-less Lakers team scored a franchise-high 51 points in a single quarter.

On the other hand, the Knicks had never given up 51 points in a quarter. With horrible seasons abound, it’s now fair to include the 2013-14 Knicks on the list of the worst teams in franchise history.

With so much talent and such a big step forward last season, this Knicks team has officially joined the ranks of the ’01-02, ’84-’85 and the ’05-’06 teams. This may not be the worst team by record, but when you factor in expectations, it certainly ranks near the top of the list.

Down by eight at the half, the Knicks watched that lead open up to 28 by the end of the third quarter and by that time the fourth quarter seemed irrelevant. As did the final score.

A brutal loss to the Lakers with Phil Jackson watching from high above the Staples Center seems like just another game for the 2013-14 Knicks but this one was different. It was record setting for both teams and a complete embarrassment for Mike Woodson as he plays out his final few games as Head Coach of the Knicks.




52 comments
Kenneth Brody
Kenneth Brody

I really thought CA tanked it, mailed it in, played to lose on purpose.  Here are two of many examples from last night...

Had a one on one with a shorter player.  Instead of making ANY move, CA purposely CHARGED right into him, lowered his shoulder so obviously that Lala would have called the foul on him.  Just zero brains on that play.

Later, dribbled from the backcourt with lots of time on the clock, no one in rebounding position, hoisted a ridiculously long 3.  Pathetic.

I have not seen this from Melo before.

madskills
madskills

Watching the Pacers and Heat while waiting for the Knicks game and D-Wade will be lucky if he has another season left in those knees.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

Just curious - what do people think of Jason Kidd's coaching acumen?  He was always one of the sharpest basketball minds on the court throughout his entire career.

(And hey, there's another team that has been "snakebit" with injuries to starters and back luck, but bounced back nonetheless)

madskills
madskills

I watched the first quarter of last nights game and thought we were recovering from the Cavs debacle. Then the second quarter happen. We cut it to 8 at half and I went to sleep thinking the Knicks would take control in the second half. I woke up this morning checked my phone and couldn't believe the Lakers scored 51 points in the third quarter. 

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

Woodson on Phil Jackson: "I'm sure when the season is over he's going to try to put his stamp on things." 


Lol.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

Just laughed out loud, thinking about how some of us fans are still coming to TKB for this Sacramento game after last night's debacle...gluttons for punishment.

danewyorkr
danewyorkr

For all those who are constantly putting all the blame on the players, you can put almost every knick on a team with a real coach and their defensive weaknesses will be covered by a defensive scheme. Example DJ Augustine is not a better defender than Felton but a good coach doesn't leave him on an island by himself. Our biggest weakness is the coaching. All those Woodson fans and supporters that chewed the intelligent Knicks fans heads off for telling the truth are all hush puppies now.

fast_eddie
fast_eddie

What happened last night? The Knicks got their asses kicked by a D-list team out of L.A. with our ex-coach who stinks almost as much as Woody....that's what happened last night.

rgm891
rgm891

Al Jefferson is having an incredible season.  He has great footwork.  Good for him man

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

What happened last night?


#knickstape


Yeah, right.

bigdishing
bigdishing

Like it or not, this is happening in the Phil Jackson era. 


The organization made a mistake by sticking with Woodson through the end of the year while it courted Jackson. Everything went on hold. Anyone watching closely in December, or even before, saw this team for what is was: a team that was completely not responding to the coach. I think Jackson should have seen that too. 


Pretty sure I got dibs on the first criticism of Jackson as a Knick. 

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

I'm so pissed/bummed about last night.


I lived in NYC for almost 15 years up until December.  My wife and I just moved to Los Angeles.  Before that I had season tickets with my friend and had to sell my half in order to help us make this move.  Although this year has been bad, it still has sucked not going to the Garden to see a bunch of games like I have the last 4 or 5 years.  


So my wife got me two tickets to last night's game.  First game I've seen all season.  ANd although we lost to the Cavs, we also just had an 8 game win streak, have Phil Jackson…are making a playoff push.  I was pumped for last night and we represented The Knicks in our gear with pride.  There were a lot of Knicks fans there (Lakers fans are pretty chill too, which was nice).  We came out strong in the first quarter.  Then we fell apart.  My wife and I left at the start of the 3rd quarter we were so disappointed.  


The one game I see this year they blow.  The thing is, the offense was fine.  Melo and STAT were scoring.  But the defense was beyond horrible.  It was a joke.  

Seth Plaut
Seth Plaut

Quite simple, the team has quit on Woodson, and we can look forward to his firing! 

tommy2b
tommy2b

I'm glad you've faced the harsh reality Harris.  I hope to see more posts on Phil's plans to fix the mess and less nonsense about the rest of this pitiful catastrophe of a season.

cj1786
cj1786

I'm glad last night was a west coast 10:30 start.  I passed out on the couch just before halftime and spared myself from the disaster that was the 3rd quarter. 

Ramon Saurez
Ramon Saurez

Why are people here surprised? Like I said last year - 2012-13 was our best chance under the Melo-STAT-Chandler regime and we could only beat an injured, washed up Celtics squad in the playoffs. This team is a waste. Clean house ASAP. 



Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

playoffs and no Phil, no playoffs and Phil, which would you pick? if you picked choice 2 like me, then this season has been a succss

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

All jokes aside. Why is the West sooo much better than the East? Dam! 

madskills
madskills

@BigChiefTriangle  I think the Nets have bounced back better then the Knicks have partly due to Jason Kidd but I think it has more to do with the Nets having more veteran players. The Knicks have veterans but none of them are really leaders. If you listen to the Knicks players, that's what they say is the difference between this year and last years team.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@danewyorkr  

Zach Lowe on the Charlotte Bobcats:

"Steve Clifford, the team’s first-year head coach, has helped turn the Bobcats into a top-10 defense...Clifford has installed a basic system designed to minimize Jefferson’s limitations and provide clear roles for everyone. The results have been stunning. Charlotte has been the league’s stingiest transition defense by almost any measure, following Clifford’s demands to get back on defense immediately upon the release of a shot instead of crashing the boards...Clifford has put off the fancier stuff to spend Year 1 on the basics. Turns out, the basics alone are pretty powerful. The Bobcats have constructed a very good defense with so-so talent, a liability at center, and almost zero rim protection. "


Teams like the Bobcats and Bulls (led by two ex-Knick assistants, no less),  have their share of roster deficiencies, injuries, and bad luck.  That didn't stop them from building a top-10 defense.  It's a laughable excuse that injuries during training camp drove this team's fall to the bottom of the NBA's defensive rankings.  Those teams are proof enough that coaching matters.

danewyorkr
danewyorkr

@verySilentJay same here. It's a shame that we can't get this brand of basketball back in nyc.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@rgm891  He's always been severely underrated.

Now that he's the man he's really making Charlotte's investment look good.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@bigdishing  Phil is a proponent of Buddhist principles. All things happen when they are supposed to happen. You don't push or you push away your good. Patience my friend is a virtue.

1harris1
1harris1

If it makes you feel better, it's cold as hell in NYC. Life in southern CA can't be all that bad.

bigdishing
bigdishing

@Blaze NYK  If it makes you feel any better, they've blown pretty much all year. 

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

apparently that was the exact game plan the team followed

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@firebaldy  

More balance, more patience, better drafting, stronger distribution of talent, parity amongst most coaches.

The respect of processes.

In a nutshell.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@BigChiefTriangle  People don't seem to get that Woody is not the least bit smart. In fact he is the exact opposite. He got fired from the Hawks and became an assistant to D'toni. Any Chip coaches ever get fired and became assistants?

melo7
melo7

It doesn't matter what conference you are in when it comes to the lottery smart guy @sandro guedes

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@firebaldy @BigChiefTriangle  

Woody's not just shown an inability to address this team's problems - he's shown an inability to even IDENTIFY the problems.  Woody once stated with a straight face that last year's P&R defense was "pretty solid", despite the fact that the Knicks' P&R defense was bottom-5 in the league!  

Phil operates on a completely different level than Woody.  With Phil in charge, I cannot fathom the possibility that Woody will be coaching this team next year.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@bigdishing @firebaldy  But then Herb's energy plays a major role instead of a secondary one. Woody's negative energy has to play itself out in order for the team to prosper down the road. You see it all now don't you?

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@bigdishing @firebaldy  It is using the powers of awareness, mindfulness and the law of attraction. Look em up. A better life awaits you. Truly.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@melo7  

And that's exactly how an already relatively strong Western conference team can end up with a lottery pick, exacerbating the talent difference between the two conferences.