With front office shake-up looming, Knicks blowout Jazz

Harris Decker

Friday was interesting to say the least. The day started with a report that Phil Jackson had been offered the head coaching position with the Knicks. He turned that down. Then a report surfaced regarding Jackson and a position in the front office. What we knew at tip-off is the same we know now: Jackson is taking the weekend to think about his options and a possible return to New York.

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Before the game, Mike Woodson had this to say about the situation: “I’m the coach of the Knicks.” An obvious, yet misguided statement. Sure he’s the coach, but what that quote leaves out are his feelings towards his general manager actively shopping for his replacement. As I stated yesterday, I believe that Steve Mills actions are in poor taste but the fact that Woodson is trying to act as the coach is a good sign for the team for the rest of this season.

From the start of the game, the Knicks were in complete control. Carmelo Anthony scored 18 of his 29 points in the first quarter as the Knicks jumped out to a 17 point lead. It was a pretty smooth ride from there. Tyson Chandler had another 10+ rebound game, adding 16 points. In fact, every single player who got in the game for the Knicks except Jeremy Tyler scored at least 2 points.

The bench got a nice run in this game, spelling Anthony and the rest of the starting lineup during the 4th quarter. Earl Clark played an unimpressive 16 minutes scoring 3 points on 1 of 5 and Cole Aldrich scored 6 points on 3 of 5. Overall, it was an excellent night for the Knicks who have now won 2 straight games.

Still, the Knicks sit 4.5 games out of the 8th and final playoff spot and the Phil Jackson rumors will continue to swirl over the weekend. As the Knicks enter the final stretch of the season, it will be interesting to see how much playing time Tyler and the other young players on the team continue to play.




106 comments
Sandro
Sandro

Phil has no front office history, so we have no idea if he'll even do a good job at it.


The most positive thing about him coming to NY is the possibility of Dolan stepping back and stop messing around.
The most negative thing about him coming to NY is the possibility of Melo wanting to stay in NY at a max contract.

Let's all hope for the best.


lindro88
lindro88

OT. How about St Johns in the traditional road Blue unis? Blowing a 6 pt lead with 11 seconds left, but still sucking it up to win in double overtime. Rysheed Jordan looks like a real talent at pg. Btw how bad does Trey Burke look.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

The top coaches in the NBA today were promoted from assistant jobs and never coached any other NBA team.

Spolestra

Popovich

Vogel

Brooks

Dolan wants a name.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

i remember watching a Laker practice on tv and i hated PJ at the time but watching that practice turned my hate to respect. he had the team working on FUNDAMENTALS/SKILLS. i believe he's gonna bring a coach in here (if he agrees to come) that has that same philosophy. 

The team can't execute what you want them to unless they have mastered the little things---the fundamentals of the game. 

Simply common sense which many NBA coaches do not seem to possess.

tw22
tw22

Let's get this straight. A report from a source said something about something and then everybody went apes*&t about that something only to then find out that the something everybody went nuts about is actually something else.

I personally don't believe that Phil Jackson was offered the head coaching job of the NY Knicks.In fact, I beleieve that the source that leaked any meeting with Jackson did not know the reason for the meeting and simply said to whatever birdie Stephen A Smith or Ian Begeley have working for them that there was a meeting. ESPN is famous for creating stories out of misinformation.

Phil Jackson is not well enough to coach and travel over an 82 game season. He is however well enough to sit in an office across the plaza from MSG to run the basketball operations of an NBA franchise, so I do believe that the Knicks broached him about a front office gig.

Woodson knows his time will come to an end after game 82 or an unlikely first round playoff exit. None of this has anything to do with Phil Jackson meeting with the Knicks so I would appreciate it if dude's like Larry brown keep their opinions to themselves about things they don't know anything about.


Jackson has no history as front office guy. He didn't have the power in Chicago nor in LA and in fact it was the lack of power in Chicago that led him to leave and then the lack of power in LA that led him to retire there. Things are never as they seem, (or reported). Chances are he would relish the chance to actually run a franchise, so I do believe that the Knicks made a serious offer to Jackson about taking the GM reigns, and I think he is seriously considering it. Beyond that I leave the speculation and misinformation to ESPN and their minions.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

If all these looming rumors help inject some life into this team and mediocre coach, I say keep 'em coming.

The next 4 games are fundamental.

Obviously with this coach no game is a "winnable" one, but Cleveland, Philly, Boston, and Milwaukee....

If you don't seize upon this chance, because it certainly is the last one and a desperate, a last ditch effort. 

If they don't put in the work, it'd be just another example of this team's lack of will and pride. 

newyorker9
newyorker9

looking at them videos on youtube when the Knicks were rivals against Bulls, Pacers, Heat makes me wish us young ones get a chance to see what we didn't back in the day. that would be epic. now that was real basketball.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Amare not being a minus, is huge, but more importantly playing him without THJR on the floor to me is the bigger news. It's taken Woodson 60 plus games to appear to finally have found the correct rotation.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ Sandro. It's worth a shot... IMO... Once a Knick, always a Knick.... People always talk about Ewing not having a job with us, which I wouldn't mind either, not saying head coach either... Jackson won a championship with us and has been around championship bball for a very long time.... Melo said he would take less $$, Phil gotta hold him to his word....

1harris1
1harris1

@Sandro Phil is extremely smart and is a basketball person.  I am praying that he accepts the position, although I'm not expecting it.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Knicks_Fanatic  Name brand coaches possess a high level of creativity and intelligence. That's exactly what we need.

Chris
Chris

@firebaldy  i coach with that philosophy. maybe i should send in my resume. lol

rgm891
rgm891

@VerySilentJay  It's now or never. Our april schedule is beyond brutal.  We gotta take advantage no excuses.

lindro88
lindro88

Woodson won't be sliding over into Herbs seat. He'll be on another bench as an assistant.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@Kiyan Carter. I've been saying we need to focus on Phoenix... I think they want Chandler and could use him... They have Robin Lopez and Bledsoe, who we could use..... They also have 4 picks, one of which we could use, and they like Shump....

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Kiyan Carter

"Demote Woodson"?

Bag that. Get him out of here as soon as possible.

Dude butchered our season. I've never seen a coach regress so much.

lindro88
lindro88

Good article on Florida and their 4 senior starters, in SI. Turns out the Harrison twins not only aren't lottery picks, they shouldn't even be 1st picks. I'm sure they'll wind up leaving and some team will take them in the 1st rd.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ Biggie.. I'll pass on Coach Cal... Nothing personal

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ newyorker9. Great times to be a Knick fan, atleast we were competitive

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Seth Nadler  That's some quality coaching there.

rkj473
rkj473

@Seth Nadler  I agree, THjr playing with Pablo, Shump and hopefully K-Mart when he returns should help bolster that unit. If not K-Mart, then maybe Cole.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ smiggybalz. If ur asking me, first of all, there not "stars".. Secondly, I said Phoenix could use Chandler, so by trading them Chandler, that opens up a lot of cap space.....

lindro88
lindro88

Robin Lopez is Portlands starting center. Not on Phoenix

HypoCrit_calNYKfans
HypoCrit_calNYKfans

@rkj473  


Tyler should be on that unit also, he's just playing with an injured hand right now so he's playing a lot less effective than he was earlier in the season!

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@firebaldy  

Trying the same thing over and over again is insanity. We need a long term plan to build a winning team, not a quick fix and new personnel every year.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Knicks_Fanatic @firebaldy  Debbie Downer.

lindro88
lindro88

Coaches don't go from assistant to HC, back to assistant. Unless they were interim guys. Woodson has years of HC experience and would never stay on as an assistant even if the Knicks wanted him to.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Kiyan Carter  

All the positives from last year have been shredded by his actions this season.

Everyone's guilty, of course, but as he is the coach, he takes the plaudits and the blames.

Last season he was candidate for COY, now he's at the bottom.

That's the way it goes.


- Not adjusting to his new personnel. If your guards aren't shooting well, why keep chucking 25-30 threes a game? Shows his ignorance.

- Hold his players accountable? BS imo. The team's play throughout the entire season demonstrates that no one was held accountable.

- Defensive coach? Yeah, tell that to the switching and the complete lack of hustle.

- Throwing players under the bus? Unacceptable.

- Stunting the growth or younguns? Not an option


VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Kiyan Carter  Everyone in his staff is just as guilty as he is.

But, given that he has the HC title, it's all on him.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Kiyan Carter  So basically keep him around  for what he did last season?

A guy like Thibs would demand nothing but commitment from everyon, so Woodson's not needed.

I'm not fond of the way he has used his rookies. His reputation as a "defensive minded coach" has been completely exposed as a fraud.

His team has questioned him publicly time and time again...


Why would you wanna keep a guy that's been so toxic?


He's lucky to be coaching this far.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ VerySikentJay. True that... JVG may want to come back, in part for feeling he abandoned us mid season, which he has stated publicly.... Thibs on the other hand, was wrongfully accused of giving secrets to Frank Isola ,I believe, while both men deny it to this day... I doubt he would come back, and I prefer to keep any draft picks we still have... :). I would love him to be here tho

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@chudogz  That's a clasic exit for most coaches that go through this team.


You never know.

But he isn't happy in Chicago. That much has been reported several times.

chudogz1
chudogz1

@ VerySilentJay. I doubt Thibs wants to come back, after being showed the Exit door the first time around, by Guitar Shimmy, after being extremely loyal

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@firebaldy @VerySilentJay @Kiyan Carter  Oh no doubt about that one.

Should Jax get the gig expectations must be grounded, he's never had such a role before. No telling what he has in mind.


all of course, in this hypothetical scenario, which, personally, I don't thinnk will happen.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Kiyan Carter  Nahh...too much 3 pt chucking and not enough focus on D.


Thibs. Any day of the week.

He makes his players better. Brings the best out of everyone. Grooms rookies very well. Brings fire every night and doesn't tolerate those who don't matchup to his intensity.

Injects passion to teams, adapts his schemes to his players, and is a great tactician.

If anyone's not committed on either end, they sit.


Thibs is an elite coach. I'll take him on top of JVG, SVG, or Jackson.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Kiyan Carter  true. maybe his knees are aching or something. there was a time when he didn't wear anything on his legs now he has them all wrapped up.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@Kiyan Carter  shump seems like he's still sulking or something. he probably thinks he's not gonna be here next season.