Without Kyrie Irving, Cavaliers snap Knicks’ win streak

Sam Spiegelman

The New York Knicks’ season-best eight-game win streak came a halt Sunday night when the Cleveland Cavaliers rallied in the fourth quarter to win 106-100.

Even without Kyrie Irving, who was averaging 30 points per game in three games against the Knicks (29-41), the Cavaliers received big-time contributions late from his backup, Jarrett Jack. The veteran point guard finished with a career-high 31 points and 10 assists on 68.4-percent shooting, including a number of key buckets down the stretch. Jack scored five consecutive to tie it up at 90, then after Carmelo Anthony put the Knicks back up by one, Jack’s jump shot gave Cleveland the lead once and for all.

“Jack made some tough shots down the stretch. That was the biggest adjustment,” Tyson Chandler said, who was limited to four points and six rebounds.”Every time we seemed to make a run, they made a big play.”

New York held a 15-point lead at the break and were up as much as 17 points at one point, and at that time it looked as if the team was going to cruise to victory. But the Cavaliers (27-44) responded with a 31-point third quarter. With about nine minutes remaining, the Knicks’ lead dwindled down to five.

The loss not only snaps the longest winning streak of the season, but marked a missed opportunity to cut within 1.5 games of the Atlanta Hawks for the No. 8 seed in the Eastern Conference.

“We came out flat (and) didn’t have the intensity we needed,” Amar’e Stoudemire said.

“They won this game. We lost it,” Anthony said, who despite scoring a game-high 32 points missed 11 of his final 13 shots, including an 0-for-5 mark in the fourth quarter.

The Knicks trail the Hawks by three games with 12 remaining on the schedule and previously trailed Atlanta by four games with 14 left.

According to the Elias Sports Bureau, only one NBA team in the past three decades has successfully overcame a four-game deficit or more with 14 games remaining to make the postseason.

The team’s five-game road trip out West begins Tuesday at the Staples Center with the Los Angeles Lakers and includes playoff-bound squads in the Phoenix Suns and Golden State Warriors. And as expected, every game becomes a must-win for the Orange and Blue.

“We got to keep winning, one game at a time,” Stoudemire said.

“We have to go out on the road and try to win all five if we can,” head coach Mike Woodson said.




63 comments
meloin5
meloin5

Phil why do the Knicks Coach Pretender still pretending to coach. With that performance against the Cavs any one of his Assistance will be  better.  Start your rebuilding now and not at the end of the season.  You've never concede any teams you're associated with as losers.  Why start now?  

hosket
hosket

Don't care if they make the playoffs....just keep winning!......move that pick to Denver as far to the middle as possible. 

frankieboy
frankieboy

This just helps make Woody easier to let go . Phil Jackson will not re hire him anyway but now with this record , no play off berth or even if we did make the play offs , get bounced in the 1st round against Miami or Indy ........ Its not the type of basketball he was talking about when he said "CHANGING THE BASKETBALL CULTURE iN NY" ..


The game before he left his starters out and almost lost and then he didn't enforce any help D on Jack who abused us . No rotation , just a lot of staring at each other after each basket. 


Later Woodson. 

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

On the Boomer radio show this morning, they had Clyde Dressler and he was very complimentary of Melo because he can score tons of buckets as Clyde would say.  However,when they interviewed MWP in the past, he stated that Melo was one the very talent people but unlike Kobe, MJ and etc, he does not have the personality to hold his team mates accountable or get on them when they are not doing the correct things. 

This is the lack of leadership thing that is very evident when watching Melo.  Along with suspect decision making on the court,  Phil would have a hard time building around Melo unless he could find that leadership and decision making elsewhere on the floor.

chudogz1
chudogz1

OUCH....... glad I knew we weren't making the playoffs all along.......Go Knicks

Nick Congello
Nick Congello

I wish the Knicks had Jarret Jack instead of fat boy

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

What you saw in that second half is what you will see IF the Knicks make the playoffs. The excellence that is Mike Woodson when the defense starts to tighten up and X's and O's / ball movement make all the difference. It aint a matter of where was the ball movement that we saw in the first half. Its a matter of the Cav's team making an adjustment to prevent the ball moving on the perimeter to the Knicks adjustment of....I don't even know. Woody cost us this loss yet again. Jarret Jack who is having a terrible season ran into the slump-buster that is Raymond Felton. You know when you are single for a while and sleep with a girl that is really below your standards to get your mojo back? Well Raymond Felton is the NBA equivalent of getting your basketball mojo back on track.

I swear our players make eye contact with the opposing player with the ball in his hands, scream 'I am coming to double team you!' and then runs over there only for an easy 3 point pass in our faces. This is the game we needed to win so that we could afford to lose to one of the top teams we still have to face....now its the other way around. Absolutely pathetic.

tdzo
tdzo

I will probably get jumped on for this, but I personally don't want the Knicks to make the playoffs only because I don't want to see Woodson play Carmelo 46 minutes a game for each playoff game we have only to end up getting bounced out anyway.

Anti_u
Anti_u

An embarrassing loss. I'm just wondering, does Felton have any pride? Isn't he embarrassed by opposing guards calling off screens, so they can take him 1 on 1?

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

A reflection of the season.

A team that gives a sh!t every once a while. They have no leadership, no commitment. No passion, fire, or pride.

The cherry? this eclectic group is spearheaded by the worst coach in the league, which explains why we've had such a sh!tty and disappointing season.

ds2488
ds2488

It has been the same story all year.  With remotely competent coaching and PG play, this is a .500 or better team at the very least, probably fighting for the 3rd seed..  Unfortunately we have neither.  The "coach" and the "point guard" have put together one of the worst seasons I've ever seen.  They just bring NOTHING to the table.  This team is so much better with Pablo running it it's scary.  Yet he can't get minutes under this "coach".  Fatty Ray has no idea how to run an offense; nor does he have the lateral quickness to keep up with ANY NBA guard.  This "coach", once you get past his only "coaching" gear, which is essentially "Play Fatty Ray and JR and hope for the best, while hoping Melo bails out my lack of intelligence", has got nothing.  


Get rid of these 2 clowns and again, this is a .500 team at worse.

KnicksMaybeThisYear
KnicksMaybeThisYear

Also first half  - ball movement


Second half - everything wrong the KNicks were doing before.


I don't understand how he continues to allow players to play outside of his system - no accountability


Very very bad loss last night - this will haunt them

KnicksMaybeThisYear
KnicksMaybeThisYear

What I didn't understand last night is if only one guy was hurting you in the second half on the Cavs team, why not force the ball out of his hands?  


Deng is the only other scorer on that team but I doubt he was going to be able to win the Cavs the game by himself.


Poor adjustments....

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

What frustrates me most about the loss is that Woody has said, more than a few times, that he doesn't want a switch with the 1 and 5 players. 

zebeto
zebeto

...dear diary , 

   I woke up angry today .

danewyorkr
danewyorkr

When these fools kept bringing the nets up in the beginning of the season I told them to worry about our Knicks. The Nets had an excuse being that players build chemistry but the Knicks had the worse coaching I have ever seen.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@KnixtradamusYep they have been playing much better since January. Before then , they sucked like we have for most of the year.   Nets have smarter players and better big men than we do also.  Kidd seem to be learning from his earlier mistakes.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@xmenreturn  

We had it last year with Jason Kidd, so it's not an impossible task to find leadership. The problem for next season is the lack of resources to improve the roster. No draft picks, no cap space, and only the taxpayer MLE will be a challenge.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@Nick Congello funny thing is that he is having a terrible season and if you checked the Cav's blog anytime but yesterday, they cant stand the guy and wanted him traded for Jason Terry at the deadline.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@Anti_u He has tons of pride. Pride doesn't do jack when you are unconditioned, have no desire to fight through picks, double when it is unnecessary and cant play defense worth a lick. He has pride in the spades though. Nothing to see here but another career night against Raymond Felton...

darealeric
darealeric

Sure, and Melo's "leadership" or lack of never comes into question. Neither does his late game choking.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@KnicksMaybeThisYear  At this point nothing can haunt this team. 

That's how bad they are.

onewhoknix
onewhoknix

@KnicksMaybeThisYear the ball was trying to be forced out of his hands with doubles which is why he has 10 assists. The funniest part was Raymond (the guy who was supposed to be guarding jack) was coming to double jack  with the most obvious doubles of all time. If a double team is spotted by the opposition, it becomes such a weakness. It is easy to find the open man. This is something Woody loves to teach aka double for the sake of doubling. When the double team is not seen coming (few and far between w the Knicks) it can be deadly. Chris Paul does a great job of coming from blind spots with effective doubling.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

They've gone small with Pierce at the 4. KG hasn't played for 15 games. With that said, no one on this blog should be concerned with the nets.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@Knicks_Fanatic @xmenreturn True but i don't think one smart player can completely change the fortunes of the team when you play other teams that have many smart players.

I think having many smart players that can play the game well surely that team an advantage.

knickgirl35
knickgirl35

@VerySilentJay @Nick Congello  It kinda comes down to the way he's shaped.

He's very bowlegged but his legs are not long. He's stubby that's why he looks fat. He doesn't know how to use his body efficiently with to his limited physique.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@darealeric  It's been questioned endless times before.

4th qtrs have been an issue for Melo, but at the same time, he appears to be the only Knick player that has actually shown up to play every game of the season.

He may not be a vocal leader, but on the floor he sets an example.

I'm not gonna criticize the only Knick that's been there 100% all season long despite having his entire team have down seasons and while having the sh!ttiest coach in the league.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@bockers @VerySilentJay  At the end of the day, you gotta work with what you got. Yes, Walsh crippled this team and GG didn't help matters much either. We can't keep looking back. It was awful, but it's done.


If you're half a decent coach you make the post season with the roster Woodson was this season.

Is it flawed? Yes, up the wahzoo, but in this conference this roster should've made the playoffs in their sleep, imo.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@johneco @VerySilentJay @Knicks_Fanatic  The team has been playing better lately, yes. But that doesn't mean it's good ball. It's just a reflection of how poorly we've played all season long.

After the Philly game, and seeing how they lacked the character to pounce upon Atlanta's loss, it's clear that this team just doesn't have the character and collective strength to make things happen.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@firebaldy @VerySilentJay  D is more about lateral quickness, which Felton lacks severely.

Awareness and fundamentals are of course are huge part of it, and Felton seems to be weak in this department as well.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@firebaldy  I don't agree there.

Given his limited athleticism, his great control and strength along with some hesitation dribbles here and there allow him to attack the basket quite decently for his size.

That takes a lot of control and solid understanding of your limitations and capacities.

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@VerySilentJay @xmenreturn@darealeric Say What? You are totally insane.

You are now talking about working hard!  We all see Melo jogging back up the court on defense or arguing with the refs instead of getting back.

Dude, I give credit where it's do.  I saw Melo play his best game against NO after the all star break and I stated so here during the game. He took the ball to the rim more and he didn't just settle for long perimeter shots.

When you are considered a superstar, you get the moniker not just because you're suppose to play hard, you should get it because your are the star and will get the credit and blame usually for your team's results. 

We lost to the CAVS at home when we needed the game the most! They were even playing without their best player.  You want to find excuses for that, go right ahead. 

Learn the game man, you don't need to quote anybody is you watch the games closely and see that Melo became total perimeter int he 2nd half and the one time he went to the hoop, he drew got called for a charge.

Our coach sucks no doubt but you don't need a great coach to beat the Cavs without their best player and we have ours on the court. We allowed Jared Jack to be the superstar on the court last night not Melo.  


VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@xmenreturn @VerySilentJay @darealeric  Name one player that puts in the work more. Just one. With tangible results.


I'm pretty sure your reading comprehension is an issue, so I'll quote myself...


"It's not about defending anyone, it's about what you see on the floor."


Then there's:

"It's not about their statline, it's about the hustle."


I'm not defending Melo's decision making at all. I'm praising his hustle. Can his decision making abilities improve in the future, under different leadership? I think so. Right now, there's nothing left to do about it. Not under Woodson.


Most stars of this league have tremendous help in that particular department. 


- In SA, Parker pulls the strings and Pop is a legend alongside one of the league's best PF's of all time.

- Indy has George, Hibbert, and locker room presence and leadership in West.

- Durant has Westbrook and a decent coach

- Let's not even get into what Miami has going on

- Paul has Griffin and Doc

- LA has Lillard pulling the strings


And on and on the list goes...


And btw, I didn't hear you saying anything when Melo was leading this team past such teams like Indiana, Miami, and SA. You conveniently put out these comments after bad losses, when collectively the team sucked.


"Learn the game, playa"

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@VerySilentJay @xmenreturn@darealeric 

Please name me a sh##tload of max players in this league that aren't decision makers or leaders, that have won anything?

Shouldn't we be comparing Melo to the superstars that have won something because those ones we want him to emulate?

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@VerySilentJay @xmenreturn@darealericHardest worker on the team!  You are totally insane. 

It's about being a smart player and helping our team win.   We know he's the most talented.  We played the sorry Cavs without their best player in our house when it is us that needed the win.  YIKES

Some of you will find excuses for Melo no matter what. Simply amazing.

Imagine ant team that had s superstar and they lost like we did last night at home.  You don't think that Superstar would get some flak?

Learn the game playa and stop with the excuses. This was the Cavs not the Spurs. If Melo can't lead our team past this team then there's a problem other than the coach and a few players period.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@xmenreturn @VerySilentJay @darealeric  WTF are you talking about?

If you can't recognize that he's the hardest worker on the team, then that's on you. It's not about their statline, it's about the hustle.

It's not about defending anyone, it's about what you see on the floor.

You clearly know more about ball than JVG or Doug Collins, who have been quite vocal about Melo being the hardest working Knick and that the true flaw of this team has been how many players have decreased their play.

And it's kind of hard not to take 20+ shots a game when your teammates can't hit sh!t and your coach isn't capable of drwaing up decent plays to get easy buckets...

What's a player to do in such situations...


And a sh!tload of max players in this league aren't decision makers, mostly because they have teammates with better decision making abilities, oh, and btw, BETTER COACHES!!

xmenreturn
xmenreturn

@VerySilentJay @darealeric Then you refuse to see that our max player can't be the leader and decision maker on the floor to even beat a team that has no superstar on the floor. 

It's amazing that some of you only care about scoring and not winning more. Help get us to win, I could care less about what a player final scoring total is.  I care more about if our team's score is larger than the opposing team score.