World Peace has knee drained… again

Metta World Peace had his knee drained — again — on Monday.

He will not play at all during the Knicks’ three-game road trip in Texas, and could miss up to two weeks.

He may or may not travel with the team.




194 comments
knickster
knickster

Odds are the Knicks won't even make the playoffs this year. Knicks will probably go 10-15 the next 25 for a sterling 19-35 record. By then, they would be some 10 games away from the dubious Atlantis division title with 28 games to go.

Woodson must be fired. Team must be rebuilt. Biggie's brain must be drained.

rgm891
rgm891

My new year's resolution is for Mike Woodson to get fired. It benefits this whole blog and other knicks fans. One time for the fans and fanatics!!!!!!

rico
rico

36 hours later and still draining his knee?



cole3244
cole3244

is melo making the trip to texas or is he tweeting his attendance in?

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

How many games out of the division will the Knicks be at 10-30?

tommy2b
tommy2b

Toronto is just finishing off the Pacers.  They'll be 9-3 since the Rudy trade (well, 7-3... if you don't include the 'games' against the Knicks. Playing us shouldn't really count in the NBA standings) and 6 games up on the Knicks while we're on the verge of getting slaughtered 3 straight times in Texas.


Does Harris Decker still believe we'll be competing for 1st in the Atlantic simply because Carmelo Anthony is the best player in the division?

Walter quinones
Walter quinones

Knicks need to follow OKC and Portland on how to build a team im sick of this organization just throwing away picks and throwing money at aging free agents

Walter quinones
Walter quinones

The knicks need to follow OKC and Portland on how ro build a team , throwing money around at aging free agents aint solving their problems , very poorly run organization but everyone knows that

dagawd
dagawd

Who will be fired first


Kidd.

Woodson.

Walter quinones
Walter quinones

Why is the knicks front office so dysfunctional we need someone who knows how to draft players snd understand the salary cap

lindro88
lindro88

Why would you panic? This is your dream coming true. This is Sandro Nirvana. The team sucks, you have the run of the blog. Enjoy yourself.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Sandro Guedes 

Please stop with the exaggerations. We don't have the second worst record, we have the third worst record in the NBA.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@Sandro Guedes  It wouldn't be panic but a perfectly reasonable response to fire the head coach at the very least.

sammysauna
sammysauna

@zdiddy4nyk  Didn't Nate wanted more $ than NYK had left??  But he would've been a good option.

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Walter quinones You make it sound like it's an exact science.

Being successful in consecutive drafts to develop 4 star players is very rare (Durant, Westbrook, Harden, Ibaka). Portland took a while to get it right and had tons of bad luck (Roy's injury, Oden, etc). Portland profitted from Billy King's idiocy and received a high pick for Wallace (who was already on the outs in Portland) which translated into Lillard. Portland wasn't really in a rebuilding project at the time.

In order to rebuild, you need patience, assets (which we don't have), competence within the FO (which there isn't), and a lot of luck. 

solar_lion
solar_lion

@dagawd It depends who blinks first in the game of patience. Me thinks (and yes it is giving Guitar Jimmy perhaps too too much credit) that the whole patience diatribe by Dolan is his way of cajoling a hyper competitive Rusky into wasting a year on Kidd while the core Brooklyn traded for ages further and the draft picks traded away slip further from the grasp of the Barclay's center. Keep on with that patience Porkyrov. Spite that face. Besides Pierce will be gone and so will KG, the organizations draft picks are also a distant memory. I LOVE IT!

Chris
Chris

@dagawd Should fire them at exactly the same time, like now

knicks313
knicks313

@Knicks_Fanatic

You're right. I missread Utah's record. My bad.

We're .006 ahead of them. Hurray.

saintknick
saintknick

@orlando_knickfan @cole3244 History says it will help... create an excuse when they lose - Melo takes a hot minute to get it going again. Out of rhythm and full from the holiday cheer.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Knicks_Fanatic @tommy2b  


"Last season, as a member of the Raptors, he played 24 second-half minutes in which Toronto was in a tie game, and finished the year with a 0% rebound rate in those situations—meaning he failed to pull down a single board when it mattered most. In the 13 minutes he played while Toronto was winning or losing by 20 or more, Bargnani rebounded at a 16.7% clip, which would have outpaced players like Blake Griffin and Anthony Davis. As such, Bargnani has developed a reputation for filling the stat sheet during games that aren't all that competitive."


http://online.wsj.com/news/articles/SB10001424052702304325004579294912600282476


Looter in a riot. Similar to Novak's 3s.

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@BiggieSmalls @Walter quinones  


"they may still loose Aldridge who wants a big city (LAkers?)

Let's see what Phoenix does with all these picks they've asembled.  Ill bet they end up selling one for 3 mil"

So you penalize Portland and Phoenix in your assessment for failures that have not even occurred, lol.

dagawd
dagawd

Word, it would be great if they both got fired on the same day

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@BiggieSmalls @Walter quinones The guy that traded a 1st-rounder for Bargnani, who makes the Knicks worse every time he steps on the floor?  A grand total of four 2nd-round picks and one 1st-rounder lost due to trades for non-contributors like Bargnani and Camby.  (Yes, yes, I know Bargnani scores points sometimes . . . I'm talking about whether or not the player helps the Knicks chances of WINNING)


That trade remains an embarrassment.

saintknick
saintknick

@BiggieSmalls @Walter quinones Sorry but trading a first for Bargnani and spending all your cash on JR smith and his brother, and leaking every potential anything to the media is a sure fire way to get tossed. I'd love to know the WHY. If Dolan really did give more control to Glen, and the plan to go old failed, thats on Grunwald. But again, I'd love to know. Much more likely that Dolan told him to sign bargnani and the Smiffs and Glen argued with him and was eventually told to do as he was told and got fired for his troubles.

tommy2b
tommy2b

He just sucks as far as I'm concerned.  His occasional hot streaks shooting mid range jumpers don't fool me.

angelbx
angelbx

@Sandro Guedes@angelbxIts just you man and your FBI most wanted look alike icon picture. ha.. Just kidding hermano todo bien - lets go knicks

Chris
Chris

@SandroGuedes Denver, if I remember correctly was winning. They tried to resign him and he refused and said he wanted the Knicks. That is when the trade heated up. He signed an extension with the Knicks, he hasn`t said anything like that this time, this team is in shambles, which I think we agree on, so no one in their right mind (that leaves Knicks and Cleveland, neither owner are in their right minds) as trading partners. We are the Knicks so that eliminates us, and Cleveland doesn`t have the players with salary numbers to trade for him. Add to that they are hoping LeRoid comes back. So who in this losing situation is going to rent Melo for 2/3 of one season. MLB teams can do that because they have a better CBA, but NBA teams can`t. So he is un tradable as far as I can determine. The solution is actually simple, but will not be done. Dolan plays with his band, does his lines and disappears from actively running this team . We both know the probability of that occurring 

knicks313
knicks313

@Chris

We are exactly where Denver was when they traded Melo to NY.

We just need to ask Melo where he wants to go and then you shop him around to see what that team is willing to give for him.

You believe standing pat and lose him for nothing is a better solution? Or you believe Carmelo wants to stay around this nightmare? That's way more flawed logics IMO...

Chris
Chris

@Sandro Guedes @solar_lion Sandro your logic is flawed. To trade a player such as Melo in the NBA you must be able to match money. What team can do that? Who will do that if he has said he is going to be a free agent in July? You ever read the Art of War? 

knicks313
knicks313

@VerySilentJay

Toronto isn't great. And you know what? They're trying not to be. So, to a certain point, Ujiri must be going crazy with all that success. He traded away the 2 big names of his franchise in order to svck and he's winning the division LOL

Yes, they won't be making any noise in the playoffs.

They have no Star.

The Knicks do. What noise do you see us doing, IF we do get there?

VerySilentJay
VerySilentJay

@Sandro Guedes If we were like Toronto, people still would be complaining. There's always a reason. No star, not good enough, et al.

Sure, we'd play better ball and have a better coach, but Toronto isn't doing any damage in the playoffs.

This of course, drives impatient fans insane. For all the "greatness" that is Toronto, they won't do jack in the playoffs.

angelbx
angelbx

@Sandro Guedes- Ok seriously.. I'm getting tired of you. Every post is a negative one.. I come here to feel better, Your the TKB Ian Begley seriously...

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@Sandro Guedes @solar_lion  


"We can argue all we want, but there's only one fact to prove one or others right: our record."


That's what's so hilarious about the "See what life would be like without Carmelo???" comments from the past couple games.  Um yeah . . . doesn't look too different from the 40-point home blowout with Carmelo.  Should we just be happy with a sh1tty team just because a great individual player is on the roster?

solar_lion
solar_lion

@tommy2b@Sandro GuedesI really started thinking when I read Deckers article about the division stinking and the "division watch" articles, how sad a franchise have the Knicks become when their prospects for success is measured relative to other teams failures or mediocrity. NY does deserve way better than this. But then again many fans are impatient aholes and we have the worse media and the most hype over any little stir in the pond. No wonder perception and self worth's are skewed. What a joke. A city reaps what it sows.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@Sandro GuedesPieces fit better in Toronto now. Less high volume, scorers or players who are a detriment on one end of the court despite not being such on the other. Yes. There is a model to take note off. But I don't care much for your fire sale spirit. I don't believe in selling low. There is still time to determine, Melo's position on FA, his value and that of other players, and wait if a turn around (yes they'll have to do it despite Woody) can happen that boost the players trade value. No crazy eddy here. Let's wait a while.

tommy2b
tommy2b

@Sandro Guedes It's like the entire franchise and half of the fanbase is living in delusion.... At least one more rationalization ... "but, but... we're only a couple games out of the division lead" is slip-sliding away.  We need to make moves for the future instead of hanging on to the pipe-dream of a miraculous turnaround.

Chris
Chris

@SandroGuedes Sorry you have very good insights, but tend to go into an unrealistic mode sometimes with your blow it up and trade the ranch solutions. And OK and myself are probably the oldest bloggers on the site (by a lot)

Chris
Chris

@OLD_KNICK @Chris Thank you. You are one of my favorite posters on this site. You Jay Boots have very good insights into what is actually transpiring. I know I`m leaving out others that I follow but I do enjoy what you have to say. 

Chris
Chris

@DolanitisDr His logic is correct . Aldrich does not want to be in Portland, he is making nada outside his salary, and all the picks that the Suns have very well may be protected, as ours should have been. Everyone on this post are blaming the players, it is really on management. The only real solution to the Knicks future is to actually hire someone with creds and give him control. Note what Bird has done with the Pacers and in particular Lance. He personally has helped Lance become one of the premier 2s in the game. We have had one lackey after another since Cablevision took over the Garden. Word is that no coaches even want to come here and work for this team the way it is run. 

knicks313
knicks313

@DolanitisDr

It's amazing how Biggie has the ability to foresee dark times to every team in the NBA but fails to acknowledge the gravity of the Knicks situation.

So, Aldridge is playing on a Top 5 team in the NBA but somehow he'll want to leave. On the other hand, Carmelo who is playing for a Bottom 3 team in the NBA, won't consider leaving.

Phoenix has 3 1st rounders in a Top 5 draft class ever, and somehow that's a bad thing. They'll end up selling them for money, and yet they're not available to us in a Chandler trade.

Biggie's brain should be scientifically studied.

Chris
Chris

@bockers I believe that that was done by the two groups that really run the Knicks, CAA and the Dolan Zeke Group

BigChiefTriangle
BigChiefTriangle

@solar_lion @DolanitisDr @BiggieSmalls @Walter quinones True.  But I think a smart head coach would reduce Bargnani to a bench player (and make sure he is ALWAYS playing beside a decent weakside rim protector like K-Mart).  


A savvy coach like Carlisle could certainly get more out of this bunch; I just can't imagine said smart coach playing Bargs 30+ min a night

solar_lion
solar_lion

@DolanitisDr@BiggieSmalls@Walter quinonesWhat makes the Bargnani trade worse is Woodson's inability to use whatever players prudently enough to not be a complete liability. Yes. Bargnani has no body control and is slow laterally of foot. But I do believe a better coach can get so much more out of this collective mis mash roster while minimizing the individual weakenesses

Chris
Chris

@solar_lion @saintknick @BiggieSmalls @Walter quinones Agree. I wonder who reps Aldrich. The correct move last summer was to bring him in l not Bargs. and moving Shump for Lowery. That would have reversed the record even with DAWood as the coach

lindro88
lindro88

Addition by subtraction. Resigning JR was a horrible decision.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@BiggieSmalls@zdiddy4nykKnicks gambled that J.R. had turned a corner. HE appears to have regressed and that corner is to the neighborhood weed dealer and gentlemen's club.

solar_lion
solar_lion

@saintknick@BiggieSmalls@Walter quinonesPlan to go old last year was not a monumental failure. There was relative success, given the franchise's history of no shows in the playoffs. This year is more like a lighter version of Zeke's wheeling and dealing days. Recall overpaying for a prospect who in the eye of the beholder isn't all he's cracked up to be once he's in town- re: Eddy Curry, Stephon Marbury. I see a less disastrous version of that model in the Bargnani trade. I don't mean it's not detrimental. It's just not as disastrous as the trades of the Zeke strapped ere.