Amid reports of coach’s imminent demise, Melo says, ‘We gotta help Woody’

Adam Zagoria, Team Reporter

Amid multiple reports that Knicks coach Mike Woodson is on the brink of losing his job, Carmelo Anthony defended his coach, both on the court and in the locker room.

Anthony poured in 31 points in a 117-90 laugher over his old team, the Denver Nuggets, to halt a three-game losing streak and said the players needed to help the coach going forward.

“We gotta help him, too,” Anthony said of Woodson. “At the end of the day, he’s the coach. He has his focus, he has his game-plan, his schemes, and we the ones that gotta go out there and execute that. At the end of the day, we can’t fight that. We gotta do it.”

Anthony confirmed a Daily News report that he met with Knicks owner James Dolan following Wednesday’s loss to the Portland Trail Blazers, although Anthony wouldn’t delve into the details of the meeting.

“Yeah, I hope I can meet with the owner sometimes,” Anthony said with a smile. “I met with him. It wasn’t nothing serious, it was just a generic conversation, just talking. I had tea, he had some tea. That’s it, we didn’t get into details about anything. It was just a conversation that we had.”

Before the game, Woodson took responsibility for the team’s situation. The Knicks are currently two games back of the eighth spot in the East.

“I can’t point the finger at nobody,” he said. “At the end of the day, I’m the head coach of this team and somehow I gotta continue to push this team and get them to believe that we can make the playoffs. That’s what we’re in it for. We were in it to win the division and that’s somewhat slipping away from us right now, but we still gotta push to get in the playoffs.”

The Knicks are now 20-30 on the season with 32 games left.

Just to finish at .500 (41-41), they would need to go 21-11.

If you figure that a 39-43 record gets them into the playoffs in the dreadful Eastern Conference, then the Knicks must go 19-13 down the stretch.

Can that happen? Will it?

“It’s important to move as high as you can,” Woodson said, “but it’s important to get in because once you get in, anything can happen in a playoff.”


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.

 




67 comments
Paul Russomanno
Paul Russomanno

All Dolan has to do is tell Melo, "You are our franchise player just choose who you want"



darealeric
darealeric

Just more damming proof that all Melo cares about is having a coach who's only job is to get him his 30FG attempts every night, NOT one who actually knows how to win.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

A lot of people are assuming that Melo and Dolan talked about Woodson. Maybe they talked about Melo's future with the team. If I were Dolan, I would be asking Melo what his plan is after the season and if he wants to be traded (and which team he wants to play for). If he refuses to commit to resigning, then they have to explore trade possibilities.

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

NBA 08/02/14 @ 11.38 0 O. CAUCHI

Knicks eye Rajon Rondo

Celtics are avalaible to trade him

The Knicks know that if they want to re-sign Carmelo Anthony next summer they must make roster improvements. The first target of the Knicks is Rajon Rondo.

Per USA Today, Despite the consistent claims from Celtics general manager Danny Ainge that Rondo isn't available, the Knicks have a strong belief that he can be had if – in a nod to another show – the price is right. They can offer the likes of Amar'e Stoudemire (one season remaining after this one, at $23.4 million) while taking future money back (such as Gerald Wallace and/or Jeff Green) and helping Ainge clear the way for the summer of 2015 that is known to be a priority of his. (That summer is a major priority for the Knicks, too, but it appears the Rondo scenario is one of the few, if not the only, where they'd consider the impact of his addition great enough to justify taking on some money from that point on.) The Knicks can include Raymond Felton (a much cheaper point guard option) or Iman Shumpert (rookie contract) and even discuss beloved rookie Tim Hardaway Jr.

Yet what they can't do is offer the sort of draft-pick haul that Ainge covets and that could come his way from somewhere other than New York before the deadline passes. The Knicks don't have a first-round draft pick available to be traded until 2018, and that factor alone will likely be enough to keep their Rondo dreams from coming true. Remember this, too: If Ainge is going to do something with Rondo, his colleagues tend to think he'd wait until the very last minute before the deadline to do so.

Source Sam Amick

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

Would you all include THJR in a trade for Rondo?

Paul Russomanno
Paul Russomanno

@sankofa  world peace is a shell of himself, even if he starts playing he would get hurt again. Just let the young guys play

nysportfan
nysportfan

@sankofa  

Indeed, Woodson should have played him in the Heat game when Shump was out and worked him back into the rotation that way

ReneNYK1
ReneNYK1

@OLDKNICK  That's the same guy that drafted bennett and is now looking for a job.

buddhabing
buddhabing

@OLDKNICK  NBA executive? Any NBA executive that talks like that doesn't seem to be the type you want running your team. He sounds like a disgruntled Knicks fan....lol

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Sandro  

Pointing out how the Melo trade was a bad deal made by Dolan will not win you many fans.

brookdon
brookdon

What did you expect him to say?

melo7
melo7

This makes zero sense

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

No. I think Hardaway Jr. is a serious piece of our future. I love Rondo's game, but Melo needs a wing player who can score the ball. Amar'e, Felton, and Shump for Rondo. I love Shump, but he seems lost in this team and needs a change of scenery. If we have to take back a bad contract or two from Boston I would. I would NOT give up Hardaway. I think he will be a star.

Rondo PG

Hardaway SG

Melo SF

Tyler PF

Chandler C

Bench

Prigioni PG

JR SG

Wallace SF

Humphries PF

?? C

zebeto
zebeto

@Seth Nadler not at the moment (gotta see if rondo gets his mojo back) ,,,,,I would include Thjr for Kyrie Irving though .


throw in shump and JR for all i care ..........Thjr should remain a knick .

Sandro
Sandro

@Seth Nadler

Absolutely.

Rondo is an All-Star, NBA Champion, NBA steals champion, NBA All-Defensive First team, type of player.

Junior is a promising rookie that most likely will hit the Knicks Sophomore slump à la Fields and Shumpert.

If Rondo is available, only Melo is untouchable.

therealprof
therealprof

@Kiyan Carter  Probably more about getting Billups back only to amnesty him, losing all players of note aside from Stat, who the amnesty would have been great for. This year's first round pick, unprotected no less, and having only a single 1st round playoff series win to show for it. Maybe about refusing to include Landry Fields but happily including Wilson Chandler. I am not saying that all of these things were predictable, but the fact remains that the Melo trade brought us the best player since Ewing, but it cost us more than it had to. I was never a "wait, Deron Williams was available?" guy because I have always thought he was overrated, it's just now becoming obvious, but yeah, the Melo trade would have been much better had Dolan left Walsh to handle it, IMO. I am pretty sure he wanted nothing to do with the Nets.

Sandro
Sandro

@solar_lion @darealeric

Dolan met with Melo. Woodson will get fired either way.

Melo will continue to be seen as a coach killer, even if he isn't so.

Chris
Chris

@kenmetskni  Cole backup center, what happened to Bargs. He is a better scorer then Chandler, and can play 5?

Sandro
Sandro

@kenmetskni

Rondo means Carmelo re-signing with the Knicks automatically.

Junior, not so much.

So, if the Celtics demand Junior, he needs to go, despite being my fav Knick.

You just don't turn down the possibility of getting an All-Star player along with the certain of re-signing our own All-Star player that it carries, because of a rookie.

zebeto
zebeto

@kenmetskni my thoughts exactly .........I would only give thjr precisely for Kyrie because krie can score with the best of em (and rondo really isnt a scorer).. Thjr has the potential to be the 3rd scoring option on the knicks .

..

...THjr pedigree and his mentor (timmy sr.) will not let him hit a sophmore slump,,,kid is gonna be a Solid Solid SG !

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

I don't think Hardaway will fall off the map like Fields and Shump. He is a far more polished and confident scorer than them.

Chris
Chris

@brookdon  Talk to Kobe about DumPhony, he hates him. Phil, then Mike Brown and Mike DumPhony, what a letdown. Bet Kobe never names a kid Mike

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLDKNICK @Knicks_Fanatic@brookdon 

Well, I did remember a lot of the criticism of Melo when he was in Denver. It's pretty normal for people that work in a very competitive environment to have issues. It comes, sometimes, when people have a passion for what they do.

To try and blame it all on D'Antoni isn't fair.

Sandro
Sandro

@brookdon

I never said he was, and I don't believe he is, although he tuned out D'Antoni.

But me, you and solar_lion aren't the majority of the league so...

brookdon
brookdon

I don't think he has the rep at all. Boeheim and Karl both called him coachable. MD was the only issue but no one else has had a problem with him.

Sandro
Sandro

@solar_lion @Sandro

I want a full rebuild because I think future, and you tell me I am a short term thinker? LOL


I'm against this Win Now mode that will lead us to sign Melo to 130 mil dollars. But if that's the road we're gonna go, then trading for Rondo makes absolute sense.

I respect that you disagree though.

zebeto
zebeto

@kenmetskni ..expiring contract in 2014-15 season .
..just like Stat and tyson .

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

I think Bargs will be gone. Isn't his contract up after this season?

zebeto
zebeto

@kenmetskni ..only hope is that Rondo would distribute ball so well that Bargs, Tyler, JR become more consistant scorers...easier points/lay ups etc.

Sandro
Sandro

@zebeto

To get Rondo with what we have, we gotta buy him on the low.

It's a risk, but I rather take a risk on a proven NBA player with a friendly contract than with an unproven rookie.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Hardaway's scoring average is low because he is just starting to get regular minutes.

Sandro
Sandro

@kenmetskni

Hardaway is averaging 10 ppg. That's it. You are hoping that he becomes the player Rondo is.

I can't believe we are discussing a trade of a rookie for an All-Star. It's a no brainer.

Junior is a great prospect, but we're not talking MCW here.

zebeto
zebeto

@Sandro ...i wish the trading deadline ended march 30th instead....would like to see if Rondo progresses more .

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Rondo is a GREAT player, but if we gave up THjr in the deal, who is our 2nd scoring option behind Melo? Please don't say JR Smith! He is way too enigmatic.

Sandro
Sandro

@zebeto

Rondo was a Top 5 player in his position before injury. The Knicks don't have the assets to chase a player of that caliber healthy.

If Rondo doesn't pan out you trade him next year as an expiring contract. His contract is nowhere near the albatross that Amare's is.

If he does pan out, you have a Top 5 PG complementing a Top 5 SF in NY, both on their prime.

zebeto
zebeto

@Sandro ...lets be honest , Rondo hasnt even played to 30% of his norm since his return though ....i dunno if its worth risking ....what if rondo is damaged goods now ? Amare V.2 ?


zebeto
zebeto

@kenmetskni and his jumper will get better as he develops too 

...

...knicks could've possibly found their future PF/C .....as Martin , Stat Bargs Ny stint comes to and end

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

I like his jumper and his motor.

zebeto
zebeto

@kenmetskni ...big and clunky, but with talent and a relatively high motor......

..

....watched the pacers indy game last night . lol

zebeto
zebeto

@kenmetskni ...I agree that maybe he can develop into a 2nd scoring option , lets say in his 3rd or 4th yr .......I was basicly playing it safe and saying 3rd.....But if a Irving or Westbrook ever came to NY , and Thjr was on the roster , im pretty sure he would remain the 3rd scoring option ...indefinatly.

Tyler is looking good, sorta reminds me of a mini Aldridge, still developing  ...he's a def keeper , hope the knicks dont lose him like they did copeland .

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

I think he will definitely be solid. I also think he has the potential to be a star. I would give him up for Irving also, but not Rondo. I think Rondo is a GREAT player, but his lack of shooting ability would be a problem for this team.

Question: you said Hardaway could be the 3rd scoring option. Who is the 2nd option in the future? The way I see it, Hardaway is the best scorer we have after Melo. JR is just too unpredictable.

Are you as impressed by Tyler as I am? I think this guy has a very nice future. He has a great basketball body and he can score inside and has a great touch on his mid range jumper. He brings major energy on the boards as well.

Sandro
Sandro

@kiyan carter

Boston would never make that deal.

Any team that wants Rondo, will have to take on Wallace's contract.

They won't trade Bradley at all, and they can get a good deal with Jeff Green alone, like Asik for instance.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

That is a great trade for is. I like Green. Bradley is a very good defender too. I'm not sure that Boston would do that deal.

Sandro
Sandro

@sammysauna

What if Rondo comes back to form and Junior hits a slump like Fields and Shump did? Lol.

We don't need a scoring PG. We need a floor general.

Rondo can dominate a game without scoring points. There's not many players with that ability. He is a 10 assists per game player, and he is also a great defender at the PG position, which we are in major need.

Rondo is the best fit for the Knicks, behind only CP3.

Plus, he's on a friendly contract.

For me, it's a no brainer, goodbye Junior.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Junior is not Shump or Fields. He is a serious scorer.

Sandro
Sandro

@kenmetskni

Rondo is a floor general. He will automatically improve the efficiency of JR, Amare, Bargnani and pretty much anyone around him, as he will find them on their sweet spots.

JR never played with a PG like Rondo. Rondo would deny him the ball when necessary, and find him when he's hot.

I think with Rondo, JR will make you forget about Junior in a heartbeat.

What if we don't trade Junior for Rondo, like we didn't want to trade Shump for Dragic last year and Fields for Melo in 2010?

I wouldn't want to take that risk again.

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

I'm not assuming that THjr can be a 2nd scorer on a championship team. I'm just wondering who our 2nd scorer would be if we traded THjr in a deal for Rondo. Rondo is definitely a better player than Tim, but I am trying to figure out how the team would score enough points to win. Rondo had Peirce, Garnet, and Allen on the championship Celtics. Who do we have, aside from Melo?

Sandro
Sandro

@kenmetskni

You are assuming that Junior can be a 2nd scorer on a championship team. I can't see it.

Rondo is a better player than Junior.

Junior will take 2 years at least to be on Rondo's level, and that is if he even gets there.

And in 2 years, you may have lost Melo already.

I understand the idea of keeping Junior, he's our best young prospect. But for me, for an All-Star, assist champion, steal champion, First defensive team...you trade him.

sammysauna
sammysauna

@Sandro  I would not give the Celtics (of all teams) a big haul for Rondo. Especially including THJR. If Timmy develops into an all-star & rondo never fully regains his form,  the pain would be to great. Plus Rondo does not put up enough points. 

kenmetskni
kenmetskni

Sandro,

I understand and respect your point here. I just don't think that Melo and Rondo would make us a championship contender. I ask you again...Who is our 2nd scorer if THjr is traded? Melo would need to score 40 per game for them to win.

Sandro
Sandro

@kenmetskni

Our main priority is to keep Melo. Rondo guarantees it. Junior doesn't.

Rondo is a better player and asset than Junior.

"When you get presented with the chance of getting an All-Star, you do what it takes"