Beno Udrih, not J.R. Smith to blame for last nights errant shot

Harris Decker

Beno UdrihPlayers play roles on a team. There are positions and then there are roles. There are guys on every team charged with various tasks and the Knicks are no exception. Carmelo Anthony is the closer (although he hasn’t been much of one this year), Iman Shumpert is the defensive specialist (although he hasn’t been much of one this year) and Tyson Chandler is the rebound machine. Each player has his role. Not his position, but his role.

Last night, J.R. Smith did what J.R. Smith is paid to do. He took an open shot. As he stood at the top of the arc with less than 20 seconds to go, he waited. Waited to be given the opportunity to take a would be game winning shot. When that opportunity arrived, he did what he does. He took the shot. Without a defender within 10 feet of him, Smith missed the shot as Tyson Chandler and the entire Knicks bench through their hands up in despair.

I’m here to shift the blame from Smith to Beno Udrih.

In order to understand a play, you have to look at more than just the shot. The role of the point guard is to distribute the ball to open shooters. Udrih’s role in that situation was to set up a play, passing the ball to the open shooter at the right time.

Smith is paid to shoot. Sure, we’d like a player who can think for himself, interpreting the situation and then making a rational decision. As we’ve seen over the last few years, Smith is not that player. He is a shooting machine and for better or worse, that’s what he does on the Knicks.

Udrih made the mistake. Instead of holding the pass from Chandler, he dished it to Smith who instinctively took the wide open shot. Let’s imagine for a second that a more established point guard gets that ball. Any veteran or more elite point guard holds that pass, directing traffic before (likely) passing to Anthony for the potential game winning shot. There’s nothing wrong with Smith taking the shot. There’s an issue with Udrih passing him the ball with the intensity that he did.

It is for those reasons that I blame Udrih and not Smith for last nights errant 3-point attempt.




146 comments
Keith Hayes
Keith Hayes

that's absurd... he got the ball away from the sideline to the middle of the court, Smith could've held the ball and reset giving Beno time to come get the ball and set up a play... the true shame in all of this is that there was no wrong play at all... if Smith makes the wide open three you have 17 seconds to go up three and you foul then get fouled and win, or you get a stop and win or they hit a three and you go to overtime... for all the experts crying, check this scenario, Smith passes up the WIDE OPEN shot and let's the clock run down but not too much in case they miss they can rebound, the shot is missed and Houston gets the rebound and you have to foul, now say there's 3-4 seconds to go, I believe we were out of timeouts but for arguments sake we had one to advance the ball... you inbound and don't get nearly as good a look as Smith... then what do you say? how could Smith have passed up that WIDE OPEN shot?...

boobsmcgee
boobsmcgee

Mike Woodson hates white people.  He had no problem blaming Beno

Steven Pinkney
Steven Pinkney

You are a complete idiot if that's your opinion when barnani took that shoot it was awful he was dumb JR does it the point guard is to blame

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

When Bargnani hoisted up his three against the Bucks, Woody didn't have the stones to blame Chandler for passing the ball out to to him.

David Levine
David Levine

ow ome its never jr fault  ell maybe you too are in love with jr just like woodson.maybe hardaway should get more time and jr less.to fix nyk trade jr for draft pick or to Houston along with amare for lin and casspi we would be better off,also fire woodson with his pal jr traded.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Felton is out and K-Mart is a game time decision for tonight. JR is a no brainer.

grundy
grundy

Total BS article. As a PROFESSIONAL basketball player it's your responsibility to know the situation, and J.R should have know the situation. To try and write something to throw the PG under the bus for a mistake made by J.R. is laughable. There have been dozens of "shooting" guards who were paid to shoot just like J.R. over the years and still playing today that would have never taken that shot.


Is this what knicks fans have become...apologized for dumb basketball plays by players who seem to have their head in the clouds? And for the coach to blame the PG as well just shows how bad things are and the kind of overhaul that is needed.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Here is Woody throwing Beno under the bus as Old Knick alluded to previously.;

Frank Isola @FisolaNYDN 46m

Woodson said J.R. was "wide open. The bottom line is you look at his shot but did Beno have to throw him the ball? You gotta look at that"

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

If we lose tonight, Beno will be sure to not be outdone in The Blame Game. Lol. Get ready Woody!

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Jonah Ballow @jonahballow

Woodson also said Felton's weight has gone down since the injury. #Knicks


They must have wanted him to lose weight to minimize the chance of reinjury. I don't believe for anything in the world that he came in to camp in better shape than last year. It was evident in his stomach. He needs to lose that...I saw it when he turned on the bench the other night....just sticking out over his belt. 



Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Reported today in the Slovenian Times, Beno Udrih was quoted as saying; Nisem čuvaj svojega brata in kako zaslužiti avtobus pnevmatike skladbe off mojo jakno.

Translation; I am not my brother's keeper and how do I get bus tire tracks off of my jacket?

Jeanmarc Beauplan
Jeanmarc Beauplan

I 've been saying that for the longest,when it comes x's and o's,this coach doesn't know wich side is up.Whenever a team keeps on making the same lackluster mistakes over and over.people still gives him credit for 54 wins,what hey do not realize is Jason kidd retired and goes to coaching because he knows he  had enough experience coaching the knicks to 54 wins.I want someone to tell me what moves,or decision he made in the playoffs last year  to help the knicks win a game.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Beno passed JR the ball and held his hand up to tell JR to hold it. So, two people on his team told him to hold the ball...Tyson and Beno. I guess, though, if you give a thief some money to hold and tell him not to steal it, it's nobody's fault but your own when he does take it, huh? Here I thought basketball is partly about trusting your teammates. *Shrug*.

beatseven
beatseven

Sorry Harris...you can't have it both ways. If you want to make the claim that JR is blameless because he did what he is paid to do and took the open shot than logic dictates Beno is blameless for getting the ball to the open man who is paid to take the open shot. If you want to claim Beno is at fault for passing the ball to JR then by default JR would be wrong for taking the shot. 

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

Final statement about this on my part: This post has us focusing on the molehill and missing the mountain. The Knicks had the lead and the opportunity to put Houston away in the 4th quarter, but the coach didn't or couldn't get his players to go to the hoop. Along with IQ, this team lacks any sort of "killer instinct." They get complacent with a lead. They need a player/leader on the court who wants not just to win, but to bury the opponent. This is what made Jordan, Kobe, D Wade, Pierce and  others winners.

James Wheeler
James Wheeler

Wat a horrible article, if he would have made da shot, everyone would be sayin how smart of a pass it was, I understand u put up articles just so tht it gives us a new update on something, but this website is getting pathetic now, just like our dumb team

IAMINETROBE
IAMINETROBE

As of right now i would do everything in my power to make sure rondo is a knick our point gaurd situation must change and fast felton and pablo just are not enough j kidd along with thise two made it enough because of his bball IQ level without you get what we have today its complete night and day scenario

gregori
gregori

so i guess in Bag's case up in Toronto, it also wasn't his fault either.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

As someone stated earlier, PGs regularly clear the ball to the outside and then go out and get it back and re-set the play. The idea that JR has no culpability because shooting the ball immediately is what shooters do is shear ignorance on the part of JR and anybody accepting that alibi for his actions. Sure, in an ideal situation, the PG should bring the ball out himself, but if he is in traffic and can potentially be doubled, clearing it is the next option. In the re=plays, it can be argued that he was waving to JR to hold the ball. If Beno has any blame, it is 5o% his and 50% JRs.

Jason C
Jason C

Its 50/50 the point guards should take part of the blame however its not all on Beno. 

JR admitting he did not know the score is ridiculous and inexcusable. 

The team has the lowest IQ in basketball period. 

It starts with Woodsons terrible game management in the last 5 min of a game this goes back to the Indiana series last year and his teams in Atlanta. The team follows two leaders, their coach and point guards and we suck at both positions. 


chuco
chuco

Whoever wrote this article J.R shot the ball how the hell is it Beno fault this writer must work for CAA lol 

JayfromtheFix
JayfromtheFix

Wait did i just read what i read?  JR isn't to blame? So JR shouldn't be smart enough to know the score and the situation that even if Beno gave him the ball in that situation he shouldn't shoot it. Beno is not a play maker we all know that, so him not keeping the ball is a good idea. JR should not have shot that ball thats poor IQ, poor discipline thats on JR and on Woodson.

Steven Porter
Steven Porter

Is it me or has The Knicks Blog realy gone to seed? The quantity and quality of the articles is very poor. I dont even read the articles anymore I just come on to read the comments section. The above article is a perfect case in point...was the author on mushrooms when he wrote it? or just JR's payroll? Jeez.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLD_KNICK 

It would be hilarious if Beno froze out JR tonight and stated after the game, "I didn't have to throw him the ball!"

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@SheSaidSpikeWho 

JR surely has a legion of enablers and apologists. It appears that JR doing the wrong thing at the wrong time is a given and that when JR screws up, it's not his fault. That's just JR being JR.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@Mr.Boots Coach also stuck with the Amar'e and Bargnani lineup way too long. He watched the lead dwindle to nothing before making a change. Those two on the floor at the same time is a nightmare. 

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@OLD_KNICK Beno passed the ball to JR who was at the top of the key (where you would reset a play). Watch the replay. Beno passed him the ball and told JR to hold it. I mean, JR has started plays for us the way Melo and the PGs do....I don't think he should but he does. So all of a sudden, JR is defunct to the point that we should avoid passing him the ball? We can't give a BASKETBALL PLAYER the BALL? If that's the case, remove him from the team lol. I mean, JR was up in arms when Bargnani did the same thing so, clearly he knows. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLD_KNICK 

I was watching the end of the Portland-Philly game last night and in a very similar situation,Terry Stotts called a TO from the bench. Portland was down 2 and stole the inbound pass after a Portland hoop. Robin Lopez stole the ball and Stotts came flying out of the court screaming for a TO with 5.4 seconds left.

A time out from the coach would have also been nice. Woody doesn't seem up on that rule change when you can call one from the bench.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@JayfromtheFix HD has not shown me that he knows enough about basketball that any of us should take him that seriously. Does anybody know hi basketball creds? Harris, maybe you should share them with us. What say you?

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

@OLD_KNICK @SheSaidSpikeWho Beno should be able to pass the ball to anybody on this team that is on the court, especially a guard. I played a lot of organized ball and coached teens. If a 10 yr NBA vet doesn't know what he's doing, he shouldn't be on the team. We are talking about something ridiculous.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@OLD_KNICK But JR is Woodson's chosen one. How can he be treated as though he is untrustworthy?

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@SheSaidSpikeWho No argument there. I agree completely. As I've stated, the game losing decisions occurred long before the last two possessions.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@BiggieSmalls  I still don't see where that absolves JR of all blame, particularly when he's claiming that he didn't know the score. and even if he thought they were behind, there was plenty of time for JR t get the ball to who should be taking that last shot - Melo.


It was a poor decision on Beno's part, but clearing the ball to the perimeter isn't an absolute error in any case.


50/50 blame-sharing there IMHO

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLD_KNICK@Knicks_Fanatic 

Woody is a bully. He only goes after those he perceives as weak and willing to take it and not on the CAA client list.

Beno played for Pops, so he knows how great coaches operate. I'd love to hear him go off again. He's not coming back next year and his contract is guaranteed. If death is getting paid not to go work, sign me up. Oops, wait a minute, I'm already there.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@OLD_KNICK@Knicks_Fanatic@SheSaidSpikeWho 

That's because JR is a CAA client with a three year contract, Woody is a CAA client with a two year contract, and Dolan is a CAA client playing with the Eagles.

Beno is under the next bus out of town after Felton and Prigioni are healthy.

Woody's Mama didn't raise no fool.