Breaking down the final play in last nights loss

Harris Decker

Mike WoodsonThe Knicks lost to the Wizards 102-101 on Monday night. In what was a competitive game throughout, the Knicks coughed up the game in the final seconds. After Beno Udrih was unable to foul Bradley Beal, Beal drove to the basket and scored on an uncontested layup.

Instead of calling a timeout, the Knicks quickly inbounded the ball to Carmelo Anthony who drove slowly up the court before taking a wild shot from well behind the 3-point arc. The play was a complete mess and cost the Knicks a chance to win the game.

After the game, there were more questions than answers from the team. First of all, what was Udrih doing on the floor in a situation that called for a defensive lineup? Udrih missed 1 of his 2 free throw attempts with 24 seconds to go and was left in the game after the Wizards called a timeout. He was asked to guard Beal on the all important possession and let him drive to the basket and score. To that point, Udrih had played a good game in Pablo Prigioni’s absence, but just had no business being on the court under those circumstances.

The second question is why Mike Woodson didn’t call a timeout immediately after that basket? With 6.9 seconds on the clock, there was plenty of time for the team to call a timeout, regroup and then call a play after advancing the ball. After the game, both Anthony and Woodson regretted the play.

“I probably should have taken a timeout at the end,” Woodson said after the game.

Anthony added that he was expecting a timeout to be called. We all were, Carmelo… We all were.

While there are circumstances in which you want them to play through, that was not that situation. The team was not set up to run the ball up the court and the rushed inbound pass clearly confused everyone.

Finally, there was the question of what exactly Anthony was thinking after getting the inbounds pass… Anthony had the ball in his hands with the clock running from 6.9 seconds. As Brian pointed out in the comments below, Woodson still could have called timeouts to advance the ball. After the inbounds pass, he could have used two timeouts which would have brought the ball up but didn’t react. Once this was not done, Anthony’s only choice was to run the court and try to score.

Instead of running the court, Anthony slowly dribbled the ball and took a wild shot halfway between the 3-point arc and half court. It was a pathetic end to what was a truly excellent basketball game.

If the team were winning, we’d take this as a hard fought loss. Five Knicks were in double digits, with Anthony leading the way with 32. J.R. Smith finally found his rhythm, hitting two clutch 3-point shots in the fourth quarter. Even Iman Shumpert found a way to get back into the action with eight points and nine rebounds.

Unfortunately, it was all for naught. The Knicks coughed up the game as time expired, making a number of mental errors both on and off the court and dropping to 7-17 on the season.

98 comments
Jesus Blas
Jesus Blas

"Confusion reigns on the final possession." - Mike Breen.

cj1786
cj1786

I'm usually one not one to heap blame on the coach. I think the players play the game and blaming the coach is the lazy thing to do.  But in this case this is squarely on Woodson.  You can ask what the heck Melo was doing walking the ball up the court but the clear answer to that was he, like everyone else, was waiting for the coach to call a time out.  I can't blame Melo for the panic and chaos that ensued in the final seconds after the timeout didn't come. 

DourSiesel
DourSiesel

a team of d-leaguers would play harder than this team

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Who's next on the injured list?  Anyone guessing Melo?

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Wall Street Journal’s Chris Herring tweeted that Shumpert said the team didn’t discuss calling a timeout if they allowed a basket on the Wizards’ last shot because they largely assumed they’d get a stop.

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

Great. Now Amar'e's knees are swelling up and he's going to be out a while.

sir_manolo
sir_manolo

Woodson needs to be fired A$AP (*no rocky*), that was the worst coaching job in the history of the NBA, maybe in sports....Pablo goes out in the 3rd Qtr. and Woodson decides to play Udrich for the rest of the game without giving him ANY rest and giving Toure' Murry any time, thus the reason why Udrich probably missed that free throw and was unable to stay in front of Beal on that last play.

With 4:30 left in the game, why not do offensive/defensive substitutions?!?

With 3 timeouts, why not call a timeout on the last play.

Woodson had sooo many mental lapses it was ridic. If the Knicks don't blow a team out by 30-40pts this point, you expect them to find a way to lose.

this point why would Melo stay?!?! this team is trash, the coach is the worst, and if they dont make HUGE changes, we have to deal with another year of this garbage...

Fire Woodson, bring in Lionel Hollins, trade for Lowry, if you have to, throw in the 2018 draft pick, who cares at this point...we have to start making changes, or we're going to end up losing Melo for nothing this summer!!!!

Seth Plaut
Seth Plaut

Woodson said Amar'e's knee has swelled up. He won't play tomorrow and Woodson said he could be "out a while."


THANK YOU FOR OVERPLAYING AMARE YOU DUMB ASS COACH

rgm891
rgm891

The Knicks schedule in January is brutal. Changes need to be made right now.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Breakdown of the last 10 seconds from NY Mag:


10 seconds: Bradley Beal of the Wizards drives right past Beno Udrih of the Knicks. Udrih is supposed to foul, as the Knicks have a foul to give. But he doesn't. 

7 seconds: None of the other Knicks come over to help. Beal casually lays the ball in for the lead. ("There was absolutely nobody there," Beal said later in astonishment.)

6.9 seconds: Udrih in-bounds the ball to Carmelo Anthony. The Knicks have three time-outs. Nobody calls a time-out. 

6 seconds through 3.5 seconds: Anthony strolls down the court as the seconds tick off the clock, probably expecting Mike Woodson to call that time-out any moment now. 

3.5 seconds: Anthony realizes that a time-out is not forthcoming. He sprints downcourt with the ball. 

2 seconds: Anthony chucks up a desperate three-point shot, which misses badly. The Knicks lose. 

After the game: "I probably should have taken a time-out there at the end,” said current Knicks coach Mike Woodson. "So that's on me ... It happened so fast." 

Mike Woodson has been an NBA coach for eighteen years.

melo7
melo7

In woodys defense Melo was yelling at beno to pass it in and kinda took matters into his own hands..He shouldn't of walked/jogged the ball up and put up such a terrible shot (and I'm a huge a Melo fan)

Marvel
Marvel

Woodson still the coach??hhe was horrible before yesterday, that just proved it for his supporters..


catch y'all later..


unless it's a official coach is fired thread or an official trade thread, what's the point?





CL4nyk
CL4nyk

Woody's head was clearly not in the game. I don't know what he was thinking, but it wasn't basketball. He let his team down while they were busy letting each other down.  Breakdown from the top down.


Say what you will about JKidd, but that last play doesn't happen with him on the floor. I don't think it happens with Prigs on the floor either. 


Kidd was the real coach last season, Prigs who can barely speak English, has been the coach this year. Woody needs to go.

ds2488
ds2488

Look, I sort of hate what happened last night with the "coaching breakdown" in that it sort of takes away from the truly atrocious job he was doing to begin with before this even happened.  Now all anybody wants to talk about is this one play, but it's not like it's a new thing.


All season this guy has put together one of the worst coaching jobs I've ever seen.  It's wrong and bad in every respect.  


There are no plays on offense.  There are no plays out of timeouts.  There are no plays down the stretch of games.  There is no plan on defense.  Guys don't know if they're switching or not and why.  His substitions and "adjustments" are laughable.  He shows total favoritism to JR and Felton.  If we had played less JR and Felton earlier and more Pablo and Timmy, I can think of 3+ games we would have W's in that we don't know.  


He throws players under the bus after games.  There is a total lack of discipline across the board.  No leadership.  


In fact, it's rare to judge a coach after a full quarter of the season and literally not be able to find one thing you think he's done competently.  Does he help us on offense?  No.  Does he help us on defense? No.  Does he have the respect of the players? NO.  Do they play hard for him? No.  Does he ever outcoach anyone? No.


Just all in all a terrible job, in every aspect, and it's a shame it's now getting overshadowed by this debacle to end the Wizards game, when in fact it's been a season long thing and is nothing new or suprising.

dreamnyc
dreamnyc

Why the F%$%#%^$ is this man not fired yet. This is rediculous. I would fire all the coaches also including Herb.  We need a real F#^%#& coach. DAMMIT LOL

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Perhaps someone has mentioned this earlier, but I haven't seen it. After Beal scores, Udrih has the ball and before he inbounds it, there is a heated discussion with Melo, probably about not getting any help with Beal. With 6.9 seconds left and needing a bucket to win, that is the last thing any player should be thinking about. Both Melo and Udrih are very experienced NBA players and yet lost their composure. 


You have to be concerned when guys that should know better, don't better. It could be the pressure of losing or just an indication of a team in disarray. No matter what the cause, it does show that changes need to be made. Say that situation was Kobe and Blake, probably one of them would have had the savvy to either call time out on their own or to refocus. Neither Udrih or Melo had their head in the game at that juncture.


Now this doesn't excuse Woody in any way and his failure to call a time out. It's just that the fiasco at the end of the game clearly shows how bad this "team" has become. Players aren't working together and not thinking on the court. Rather than talk about trust, it appears that there is a lot of finger pointing and looking to be critical of each other. Whatever is said after the game is nonsense, given what we see on the court.


It's become clear that we need a coaching change. This isn't an indictment of Woody's coaching ability. It's more of a situation of not having the right coach for these players on top of having a team of parts that doesn't work well together.

1strdpicks
1strdpicks

Who knows whether Woody gets canned, but this is the 3rd time in a row this year where he's botched things up in the final 30 secs to cost the team the game.

bockers
bockers

Tyson Chandler is back on Wednesday.Anyone think our offense will improve?It may if we can package Chandler,Shump and our 2018 #1 pick for Rondo and Olynyk.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

For the record, a broken toe can be a bitch to deal with.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

Good time for a coaching change.  We have the Bucks coming up and then three days to the next game against Memphis - who will probably destroy us... but gotta do it.  We may get that "new coach bump".

chuco
chuco

@Seth Plaut thank the front office dumb ass for not making trades and got rid of him when we had a chance 

thatsagoodpoint
thatsagoodpoint

It happened so fast." 


That's what they say about car crashes..

melo7
melo7

3.5 seconds melo realizes a time out isn't coming and sprints up the court..I don't think woods right but melo has to take some Blame he did not "sprint" up the court and he's fully capable of calling a time out..melo was yelling at beno to throw it in

Chris
Chris

@melo7 The ball bounced 3 time before Beno picked up, I can say Time Out about 10 times in that interval

lindro88
lindro88

@CL4nyk It doesn't even happen if Kidd is on the bench.  He's screaming timeout...  

SheSaidSpikeWho
SheSaidSpikeWho

I agree with everything except the season long part. It's been much longer lol. Hitting a historical amount of three's was like spraying air freshener to cover up a shitty smell. He hasn't been good enough for a while. I'm not sure he's capable of coaching this team out of this hole. It's not an easy task...and as we've seen, Woodson has trouble with the simplest of tasks.

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

@ds2488I agree Woodson has been inept all season, but that final play was a special brand of f--k up. Like off the charts brainfart.

ds2488
ds2488

@Knicks_Fanatic I said it last night...Melo walking the ball up the court was shocking, with nobody even urging him on to sprint.  Everyone's gotta know the situation.  Instead nobody did.


I think that has to 100% come back to the coaching though.  I mean, what is a coach's job except to make sure his players are on the same page and know the situation?

bockers
bockers

@bockersAdd a shooting guard to Melo,Rondo and Olynyk and the team is greatly improved.

thatsagoodpoint
thatsagoodpoint

@ExpectTheWorst To be fair it's not like we're talking about Melo's missed shot. The grievances are with leaving 3 timeouts on the floor which led us to completely botch a game that we did have a lead in.

Daniel Burgos
Daniel Burgos

Not to mention that they gave up 30 pts to Martell Webster. Wall and Beal getting there points is at least understandable. But the lid should have been placed on Webster as soon as he hit a couple open shots.

NYKnickerBocker
NYKnickerBocker

@melo7 

I think everyone forgot the situation there and busy bickering with each other.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@ds2488@Knicks_Fanatic 

Woody is at fault, but not 100%. Melo and Udrih have been playing hoops their entire life. So has the rest of the team. It didn't take a basketball genius to know what the situation was and what had to be done. Nobody stepped up, either on the floor or on the bench.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@bockers


Most people now think that we overpaid for Melo and are now paying the price (7-17) for Dolan giving up too much. That was my point of view when it happened. Dolan should have let Donnie Walsh handle the deal and stayed out of it. 


Back to the present. The Celtics laughed at the Knicks when they called about trading Rondo. That is not part of the strategy to raise Rondo's value on the trade market. It is a reflection of the poor management of the team by James Dolan.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/boston-celtics-reportedly-laughed-rajon-rondo-trade-offer-172300967--nba.html


Meanwhile, the New York Knicks are the joke of the NBA. High expectations surrounded the team entering the season, and with a potential Carmelo Anthony free agency looming, the Knicks have not responded well. There's a feeling that the Knicks need to do something to save their season. The roster is poorly constructed, and it is being poorly managed by Mike Woodson.

So, naturally, there were rumors about the New York Knicks trying to trade for Rondo. Since the Knicks have very little to trade, this makes no sense for anyone with a brain. Then again, the Knicks are run by James Dolan, so it's reasonable to believe that the Knicks tried to make it work anyway. There are a lot of things James Dolan doesn't realize. The fact that he can't trade for Rondo seems to be one of them.

bockers
bockers

@Knicks_Fanatic@bockers Should he say he is available and lower his value? You did NOT like the Melo trade and you defend Magoo, so I take what you say with more than a grain of salt.It seems in your posts you always negate

ways to improve the Knicks.

thatsagoodpoint
thatsagoodpoint

@ExpectTheWorst@thatsagoodpoint Yeah I know. The hole we put ourselves in was more the same but the typical 'oh we didn't have chandler' excuse would have applied. I'm not happy about that. And we've similarly seen our team give up big leads like that as well. But not calling a time out when you had 3 left? I mean come one. It was a miracle that we found ourselves in a position to steal that game but it was through woodson's shear ineptitude that we didn't.