Cincinnati coach says losing is ‘killing’ Kenyon Martin

Adam Zagoria

Unable to travel with the Knicks to Milwaukee for tonight’s game, Kenyon Martin sat courtside at Madison Square Garden Tuesday and watched his alma mater, Cincinnati, beat Pittsburgh in the Jimmy V Classic.

Martin, who is sidelined at least two weeks with an abdominal strain but was recently inducted into the Bearcats’ Hall of Fame, visited the Cincinnati locker room before the game and revealed some insight about the Knicks’ struggles.

“It really helped that he came to the locker room to talk to the guys,” Cincinnati coach Mick Cronin said after his teams’ 44-43 win. “He was talking about the Knicks and how they are last in the league in fast-break points because they don’t get stops. You have to get stops to win games and that was his message to the guys. It was good because that was my message for two days.”

Martin declined to comment, but Cronin said losing — the Knicks are 7-17 — is “killing” the veteran big man.

“It’s a tough time,” Cronin said of Martin, who turns 36 Dec. 30. “I know people don’t know him that well in New York. Losing is killing him and not being able to help his team is just killing him. It’s killing him. But Father Time is what it is. Date of birth is a tough thing, it’s hard to beat.”


Adam Zagoria covers the New York Knicks and Big East hoops for NBA.com and SNY.tv. He also appears as a Big East Basketball Insider on SNY and 1050 ESPN Radio. You can follow him on Twitter and read his blog.

15 comments
C0P0
C0P0

I Love K-Mart but the losing isn't HIS fault. The knicks need to play to bring up the young players across the board.

Hardaway, Murry, Aldrich all need more time to be helpful to the team. 

Veterans run down playing lots of minutes for a season.


Look at Pablo, just turned 37? Is out with a fractured two for 2 weeks right after upping his minutes.


Needs need to cultivate the youth on this team and seek young like Indy did for the future, regardless the picks situation. 

Dolan needs to open his wallet and stock up on some youth, not just wisdom.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

The comment about getting stops and being able to run out in transition is very smart.  We often talk about our defense and offense like they are separate things but one fuels the other.  Get stops and rebounds, cause turnovers, you get out on the fast break and get easy buckets.  That fuels confidence, seeing the ball go into the hoop, and breaks the spirit of the other team, making it easier to score when in the half court.  On the flip side, if you have a bad offense, don't score, miss shot after shot, especially long range jump shots with long rebounds, you make it easier for the other team to score.  No matter how hard you try on defense, eventually you stop trying as hard because you can't score.  yes, there are good offensive teams and good defensive teams, but most good teams are usually at least in the top 15 on both offense and defense.  One might be better than the other but you rarely see a good team with a super low offensive or defensive rating.  Even teams like the Nash/STAT Suns played relatively good defense compared to the pacing of their teams. 

Seth Nadler
Seth Nadler

What would it take to get Asik and Lin?

orlando_knickfan
orlando_knickfan

It would not surprise me if tonight is the night where we really see Melo "check" out.

I could see him taking himself out early with an injury or just playing like he's playing outside somewhere.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@Seth Nadler Shump, Bargs and a draft pick?  Then trade Chandler to the Lakers or Thunder. 

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@orlando_knickfan And even if he did, who could blame him? He watched his coach check out Monday night, and then throw his team under the bus.

Blaze NYK
Blaze NYK

@NYKnickerBocker@orlando_knickfan@Seth Nadler He doesn't get that much actually.  I read it somewhere that the 14.8 million was only if Chicago had picked up his option or something like that?  So he gets like 8 million.  He's younger than Chandler.  I think the idea would be to get Asik and then ship out Chandler in another deal.  I'd be down for that. 

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@NYKnickerBocker@orlando_knickfan@Seth Nadler And then the question would be why would Houston want to pay Chandler to back up Howard. They would be better off wanting Bargs to help open the paint for Howard.