Ditching the bad orange juju

Harris Decker

Kenyon MartinWith the NBA’s permission, the Knicks are now able to do away with the orange jersey’s that they hyped up ad nauseam before the season started. It’s time to ditch them for the sake of ditching them and rid the Garden of those ugly uniforms.

Since they were introduced, we’ve seen the team open the season 5-14, have the best defensive player go down with an injury and deal with uncertainty about the future. It’s with all of that that I say: GET RID OF THOSE UNIFORMS!

They were hideous from the start, are hard to look at when watching on television and even more blinding if you happen to pass one on the streets of New York. They need to go, and if for no other reason, just to send a message. You can’t come in here, rest on our players shoulders and lead the team to 0-6.

This theory has backfired in the past. After uproar about a green wall in Citi Field, the Mets painted it blue. What did that do? Took them from 77 wins in 2011 to 74 wins in 2012. See… it totally works! It really has nothing to do with Raymond Felton shooting 0 for 6 or Iman Shumpert playing like a superstar one night and a frightened rookie the next. Right? It’s all about the orange.

Maybe its time for a good old fashioned jersey burning. If you were fortunate enough to buy one of those horrible orange jersey’s, take it outside and dispose of it in whatever fashion you’d like (I don’t want to condone burning it, but… yeah). Irrational as it may sound, getting rid of the orange jersey’s is a must. Hopefully it can reverse the bad juju currently circulating around Madison Square Garden.

145 comments
matty
matty

Harris Decker you have ruined this site. Bring back Tommy D who actually brought up important things that actually made sense. the idea that you are worried about the color of a jersey is so stupid. I barely check this site anymore since Tommy left. its just not worth it anymore...

tommy2b
tommy2b

On the other hand, orange jerseys did magically turn the pumpkin Bargnani into a prince for a few games.

JerseyFan1
JerseyFan1

NY need to win tonight. Wondering if K. Irving go off against Felton.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

Orange is a favorite color of mine, so I liked the uniforms immediately. But then, as I was watching games on our 55" Vizio, I figured the uniforms were bad visually because they matched the orange of the paint so exactly that all I could see was heads, arms, and legs; no bodies. I was turned off to the because it seemed like the Knicks had no presence in the paint; then I watched the road games and I realized that it wasn't the orange uniforms; the Knicks really had no presence in the paint.

prince
prince

We must ge t DJ Augustine or Jason Thompson! Preferably Thompson, he's a great fit

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

Does anyone else what what Dolan talks to Woody about in the post-game meetings? It wouldn't be hard to believe that he is dictating who should play and how the team should be approaching the game, either by explicit or implicit directives.

cole3244
cole3244

finally those cursed uniforms are repealed and its on to the ecf and the champ round, boy those rose colored glasses do make your outlook positive.

akamarb
akamarb

GUYS SANDRO IS BACK!!! we can finally go back to our normal routines....things just werent the same without that little portugese fella

akamarb
akamarb

LETS TRADE SHUMPERT FOR DION WAITERS!!!

lindro88
lindro88

Our nemesis K. Irving has been terrible to start the season.  Hope he doesn't pick tonight to break out of his slump.  Cavs have some guys who can put up big rebounding numbers.  Tristan Thompson has been on a tear.  Bynum has been putting up 20/10's on limited minutes.  Cavs are very talented despite the 7 wins.  Hopefully some pride kicks in tonight after what happened on Sunday.  

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

You guys don't actually get the point regarding the jerseys. It has nothing to do with juju crap. It's the energy put in the belief by the players. If they think the jersey has something to do with their losing then most likely that's what will happen. A lot of these sports people are superstitious and BELIEF makes or breaks a season--a life even.

Railshock
Railshock

The orange jerseys are not the problem,  they look nice as an alternate and I might actually pick one up. However the Knicks traditionally wear white at home and should never replace that for extended periods of time.

Kojo1111
Kojo1111

I seriously think there is something wrong with MW. If you watch the way stands there with his mouth hanging open--ready to drool on himself. The slowness of his speech. There is something not quite right there.

rgm891
rgm891

Curious to see the trade rumors once December 15 hits. Dolan has to be waiting so everyone can be traded.

chuco
chuco

Dumb Knicks and front office never looked in to D.J Augustine now the bulls gonna sign him felton is not the effn answer ppl are so effn blind and dumb hope woody gets fired everyone talk about front court help you won't win if you can't move the ball 

zebeto
zebeto

looks like it already , whats new ! Felton sucks !

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@lindro88  Lets see Bynum keep up with and defend Bargs on the perimeter.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

lindro88

Cavs have put up wins against the the Nuggets, Clippers, and Bulls in their last three home games.

CL4nyk
CL4nyk

Smart. Never underestimate any opponent, even when it's the Knicks.

Seriously though, Knicks have the firepower to go off on any given night. It's just a matter of putting it together. 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

chuco

We don't have any drafts picks until next year, so that's not a problem for some time.

akamarb
akamarb

@Sandro Guedes  sandro you are back little buddy - good to see you...but you are looking gayer then usual SIR!

Tikki
Tikki

@Sandro Guedes The picture looks much, much worse when you consider the draft picks the Knicks have traded (repeatedly) for inferior, low-value players.  Where is KnicksFanatic when you need him?

chuco
chuco

VernonZee damn well Donnie played us 

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@Tikki 

No one ever calls me for advice when making a trade.I've given Dolan my number. 


Fans here just don't value draft picks. They would rather have Bargnani, who is nothing special, than Novak and 3 draft picks.

Jaime
Jaime

I did believe that we were starting to "turn it around" with those 2 games...but I did not think it was going to be an 18-6 or 13-0 kind of run.  Just that we'd play better.  


That said, when I saw people saying "easy schedule"...I just kept thinking that people needed to stop syaing that.  Nothing will be easy for the Knicks for a while.

lindro88
lindro88

@Tikki @lindro88 @OLD_KNICK sad but true. People on here after the Nets game talking about the "favorable" schedule coming up.  No such thing as a favorable schedule when you have one of the 5 worst records in the league.  

Tikki
Tikki

@BiggieSmalls @Tikki No one ever said the draft was not a crapshoot.  My argument is that they are very cheap gambles, which are quite valuable when you operate under a salary cap.


Reggie Bullock recently injured himself after nabbing a spot in the rotation (for a win-now Clippers team that is high on him).  Injuries can happen to anyone, whether they're draft picks or free agents, so I'm not sure that injury can be taken as an argument against drafting players . . .


PS - Rockets GM Daryl Morey recently asked for a 1st round draft pick in exchange for a solid, productive 27 year-old top-5 defensive center in Asik.  He was roundly rebuked and has been asked to "come down" from that price. I think that alone speaks to the value the rest of the league places in the draft.  And Boston did not trade Garnett and Pierce for Wallace and Humphries; they traded them for draft picks. But I'm going to end the discussion here; clearly we just completely disagree on this issue.

Mr.Boots
Mr.Boots

@Tikki @ds2488 @Knicks_Fanatic  I agree somewhat, but another pressing need was a scoring big to fill in the point void left by Amar'e and to take some of the scoring pressure off Melo. Bargs has filled the point void pretty much, and rebounds and plays defense better than Amar'e. The trade told me that the organization was expecting nothing from Amar'e this year; an astute assumption.


Yes, the PG and rebounding defensive Big problem remains after the trade, but given the Raptors' dumping of players in order to truly tank, I don't blame the acquisition of Bargs as the mistake; I blame the FO for not making it a bigger trade. Given the dumping and tanking of a number of teams, there's no reason, in my mind, why there couldn't have been a third team and maybe more involved in a deal that would have saved the Knicks that those picks or made it worth giving them up because this was/is supposed to be the "NowYear" at the time.

chrisb
chrisb

@Tikki @ds2488 @Knicks_Fanatic Problem is they (the Wooderino) think Felton is all right, and Woody prob told them don`t need a big, we play small ball anyway. Except now when his best player is Pablo, and he won`t start him, the tune has changed to `we gotta play big to match the east`. Pure BS from the feeble minded coach that probably makes Dolan feel smart

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

ds2488

Bargnani is getting $23 million for two years. If Novak and Camby were bad contracts, what is Bargnani? That Novak was a bad contract at $3-4 million a year was just propaganda to trade away another popular player. Paying a 45% 3 point shooter a below the league average is a fair deal.

Tikki
Tikki

@Knicks_Fanatic


Pack it in.  I don't think we have any hope of getting through to Biggie on this one, lol.  Given the actions taken by other savvy front offices across the league, it seems quite obvious (to me) that draft picks and rookie contracts are quite valuable in the NBA.

ds2488
ds2488

@Tikki @ds2488 @Knicks_Fanatic I agree Tikki, I mean he didn't fit a need but at the same time, the Novak/Camby contracts were pretty bad, so I was just happy to get rid of them (as much as I liked Novak).  

ds2488
ds2488

@BiggieSmalls I can't agree with that at all.  Smart teams value them because you get players at great contracts.  Pretty much every single good team in the NBA has at its core draft picks who grew with the franchise and then were retained.  

Tikki
Tikki

@BiggieSmalls @Knicks_Fanatic @Tikki I completely disagree.  Atlanta, Boston, Philly stashing draft picks says otherwise.  Small market teams that can't make splashes through free agency need draft picks to acquire big-time players, using picks to either


1) gamble in the lottery (a low-cost proposition given the rookie payscale)


2) act as assets in a trade for a quality player


If you're going to trade a draft pick, it better be for a quality player that improves your team.  Dolan's Knicks (and you?) seem to value draft picks far less than the rest of the league.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

BiggieSmalls


Biggie, you are dead wrong. look at the top teams in the NBA. Indiana, Portland, and San Antonio, all built through the draft.

Knicks_Fanatic
Knicks_Fanatic

@ds2488@Tikki

I'm not taking any pleasure in knowing that we made another bad trade. There is nothing wrong with acquiring Bargnani. He is an average NBA talent. However, giving up 3 draft picks for him was terrible. 

Tikki
Tikki

@ds2488 @Knicks_Fanatic @Tikki


In a vacuum, it was obvious that Bargnani was the best player in the deal.  But given the team's most pressing NEEDS - a starting PG (like Kyle Lowry) and a backup big for Tyson (like Amir Johnson) - I felt it was the wrong move to give up a draft pick for a player that addressed NEITHER of those urgent needs.


The PG and big-man issues remain, but now we have even fewer means to address them.

ds2488
ds2488

@Knicks_Fanatic @Tikki Well to be fair KF, when I supported the Bargs trade I thought we would be the 50+ win team from last year and draft picks wouldn't matter as much.


And I think everyone who supported the trade was very much correct about Bargs being much better than Novak/Camby lol.


But yes, that's a regrettable trade now so take a bow.  

Tikki
Tikki

@Knicks_Fanatic @Tikki


"Fans here just don't value draft picks." 


That's why it's funny that everybody is on board with #24 pick Hardaway getting more minutes in just his first year for a "win-now" team . . .